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[00:29:29] Rum: #ruby 937
[00:29:35] Rum: gettin down.
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[00:36:17] SteenJobs: anyone have any idea why resque-scheduler would load a given schedule, but won’t enqueue it?
[00:37:39] Rum: i jus know i am at ruby ##docker
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[00:53:41] Ericx2x: finally got my site going in production mode :D
[00:53:56] Ericx2x: Lesson learned, find a guide that fits for your build
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[01:47:18] agent_white: Evenin' folks
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[02:32:36] amperry: have a datepicker problem that may have to do with not using it in a form: https://gist.github.com/amp108/6719c00be04ba3f841879a40dba37561
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[02:53:02] bonhoeffer: my spec succeeds if i run the context alone. if i run the whole file a bunch of other operations happen. any ideas how to govern the order and persistence of rspec operations in a file?
[02:54:02] sevenseacat: if your tests only pass if run in the right order, you have state leaking between your tests
[02:54:23] bonhoeffer: sevenseacat: well put -- i have some contexts and some basic it statements
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[02:54:41] bonhoeffer: i'll try to narrow down where the state is leaking
[02:55:13] sevenseacat: common scenarios are things like before :all blocks that won't get cleaned up by any example-based database cleaner
[02:55:26] bonhoeffer: i guess the main question is why the first context could possible have a state leak
[02:56:50] bonhoeffer: since nothing is executed ahead of time
[02:57:01] sevenseacat: without seeing any code, can't say.
[02:58:21] bonhoeffer: ah -- happy to share my code, but i found that a context surrounded by 'it' blocks shows that the it statements leak into the context
[02:58:42] sevenseacat: you have a context inside a single spec? what?
[02:59:17] bonhoeffer: https://gist.github.com/tbbooher/c6035075c75d5e3334399a2eb5fcb087
[02:59:34] bonhoeffer: that is a paired down snippet
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[02:59:45] bonhoeffer: which shows the problem
[02:59:46] sevenseacat: and the problem with it is?
[02:59:53] bonhoeffer: i'll annotate
[03:00:51] bonhoeffer: https://gist.github.com/tbbooher/c6035075c75d5e3334399a2eb5fcb087#file-journal_entry_spec-rb-L22
[03:01:12] bonhoeffer: so, the db changes from the it block below reflect/persist to the context block above
[03:01:30] sevenseacat: errrr, no they don't
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[03:01:59] sevenseacat: so what are the four emails?
[03:02:26] bonhoeffer: all confirmation instructions
[03:02:33] bonhoeffer: created each time a user is created
[03:02:38] bonhoeffer: just devise . . .
[03:02:56] sevenseacat: for what users?
[03:03:06] bonhoeffer: new users -- to confirm their account
[03:03:11] sevenseacat: yes, which users
[03:03:25] sevenseacat: which users in your tests do those emails correspond to
[03:03:46] bonhoeffer: i thought i used databasecleaner . . . the db state should change to empty at each it block and each context afaik
[03:03:54] bonhoeffer: sevenseacat: thinking about your question
[03:04:02] sevenseacat: thats fine but that doesnt answer the question, nor do i know how you configured database cleaner
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[03:05:26] bonhoeffer: ok -- i might be missing your question, but the deliveries correspond to the users below in the it block -- i can debug and see the four confirmation emails match the two users in the block below and the two created in the before :each in the current test
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[03:06:54] sevenseacat: got some evidence of this?
[03:08:07] bonhoeffer: happy to report -- i just went through the collection via debug. does it seem i'm not correct
[03:08:31] sevenseacat: yes, because thats not how rspec works.
[03:08:48] bonhoeffer: also, here is my database cleaner: https://gist.github.com/tbbooher/57307ede12c84c166b7a823c27f542a8 -- that is in support -- looking into how it gets called
[03:08:55] sevenseacat: wait, are you cleaning out your sent emails between each test?
[03:09:00] bonhoeffer: sevenseacat: what i thought
[03:09:11] bonhoeffer: is that rspec shouldn't be doing that
[03:09:20] bonhoeffer: sevenseacat: no--not explicitly
[03:09:28] bonhoeffer: which has nothing to do with the database
[03:09:35] sevenseacat: and neither does the test error
[03:10:22] bonhoeffer: ok -- good vector there -- do you know if rspec includes the support directory -- what i have in the RSpec.configure do |config| block -- or do i need to call that?
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[03:10:41] sevenseacat: depends if you've configured it to do so.
[03:11:25] bonhoeffer: ok -- i'll look into that -- thanks a ton on the above -- i'm setting this before { ActionMailer::Base.deliveries = [] }
[03:11:52] bonhoeffer: any links/thoughts on the standard way to configure rspec support files greatly appreciated
[03:12:29] sevenseacat: what you have looks fine
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[03:13:14] bonhoeffer: btw, all tests pass, with the setup i have do i need to explicitly include all the files in rspec/support or do those get included by default?
[03:13:32] bonhoeffer: something is calling that file, i just can't find where in my settings
[03:13:36] sevenseacat: they do not. again, if you have configured them to do so, they will
[03:14:05] sevenseacat: you probably have al ine like this in your rails_helper `Dir[Rails.root.join("spec/support/**/*.rb")].each { |f| require f }`
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[03:15:35] bonhoeffer: exactly that --
[03:15:43] bonhoeffer: missed that -- thanks
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[03:18:18] bonhoeffer: is the rails 5 upgrade performance enhancement set significant for a simple site?
[03:19:08] bonhoeffer: that is an answer -- the one i need
[03:20:00] sevenseacat: rails upgrades usually aren't part of my job because clients don't pay for them
[03:20:43] sevenseacat: the one exception was when we put the foot down to upgrade a client from rails 3.0 to rails 3.2, a year or so ago
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[03:24:27] bonhoeffer: sevenseacat: well said
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[03:37:53] Talltree: sevenseacat: do you happen to know of an easy method to clean nil params from the url that results from a search form?
[03:38:12] sevenseacat: there are no nil params submitted from forms
[03:38:25] sevenseacat: form data is all strings
[03:38:33] Talltree: then empty :D
[03:38:42] Talltree: if its empty, just leave it out
[03:39:02] sevenseacat: thats up to you to do, because empty values might be significant
[03:39:18] Talltree: for me they arent, so i'm search for a method to do that
[03:39:30] Talltree: and yeah, ignore unticked boxes, so false is nil too.
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[04:10:41] amp108: hi all, I have a weirdness with routes.rb; it looks like I misspelled "occupancies" in the line 'resources :occupanies' (note no letter "c"). But it is nowhere else in my source tree spelled that way. If I correct it to be "resources :occupancies", I get an error "missing template occupancies/index ...". Occupancies is a report I'm generating as a pdf.
[04:11:14] Ropeney_: Talltree, did you work out a solution?
[04:11:35] Talltree: Ropeney_: hackery with JS, not fancy, still working on a better solution
[04:11:56] Ropeney_: Talltree, maybe try params.select { |k,v| v.present? }
[04:12:03] Talltree: Ropeney_: http://stackoverflow.com/a/32107383
[04:12:46] sevenseacat: definitely something that should be done on the server side
[04:12:52] sevenseacat: amp108: you may need to provide some more information
[04:13:12] Talltree: where do i add that Ropeney_?
[04:13:18] Talltree: excuse my noobishness
[04:13:21] Ropeney_: in the controller
[04:13:54] amp108: sevenseacat: I can put a gist up. What would you need, aside from routes.rb itself?
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[04:14:22] sevenseacat: the error, the code causing it, why you think its a mistake, etc.
[04:14:23] helpa: You have not provided enough information to debug your problem. Please provide this information: https://gist.github.com/radar/5384431
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[04:17:02] Talltree: i dont get it Ropeney_, i have this as a placeholder for now in my search method @characters = Character.where(name: params[:name])
[04:17:24] Ropeney_: put code online somewhere so can see :)
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[04:17:53] Talltree: http://pastie.org/private/p3tuoggvsuobaftccy4vcq
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[04:17:58] Talltree: hackery, hackery everywhere
[04:18:21] Ropeney_: before, @characters, params params.select...
[04:18:39] sevenseacat: Talltree: thats not something to be proud of
[04:18:55] Talltree: sevenseacat: thats why i dont like posting complete files
[04:19:03] Talltree: you see my hackery and laugh at me
[04:19:07] Talltree: ACTION cries
[04:19:08] Ropeney_: you restrict help without complete files
[04:19:21] sevenseacat: no-one was laughing
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[04:19:55] Talltree: that doesnt work tho. the url still looks like ?name=
[04:20:15] Ropeney_: oh... why do you care about what the URL looks like?
[04:20:31] Ropeney_: remember your controller... is server side
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[04:20:43] Talltree: that was what i was wondering too,
[04:20:52] Ropeney_: then javascript is all you can do, or do a redirect in controller
[04:21:01] sevenseacat: why does the URL matter?
[04:21:06] Talltree: so i did the javascript "soluction" of just disabling part of the form
[04:21:15] sevenseacat: now thats hacky
[04:21:49] Talltree: the URL matters i think, it should be linkable
[04:22:10] sevenseacat: thats fine, so why does it matter if theres a ?name= in it
[04:22:50] Talltree: its just ugly, i never see search forms with that stuff on web. i dont like that its ugly
[04:23:03] Talltree: maybe i'm the only one who cares about stuff like that here
[04:23:22] sevenseacat: let me point you to the most basic search, a google search result page
[04:24:35] Talltree: https://www.google.de/#q=test&btnK=Google+Search thats ulgy about that?
[04:24:41] rvanlieshout: why do you even care
[04:25:04] pontiki: i think i'm glad i'm not trying to understand this conversation
[04:25:07] sevenseacat: well you didnt like having the query string
[04:25:14] sevenseacat: you were the one that said it was ugly
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[04:25:24] Talltree: i didnt like having an _empty_ query string :)
[04:25:43] Talltree: if its empty, dont show it, thats what i'm trying to do
[04:25:46] rvanlieshout: it's not the same as having no query string
[04:25:51] rvanlieshout: that could matter
[04:25:57] amp108: sevenseacat: I've put the error message and the routes file at https://gist.github.com/amp108/fe8c88bcab00fe70cddeb11e70799374
[04:26:04] Talltree: not for my purpose, i tried to say that too
[04:26:13] Talltree: but probably i'm just really bad at communicating
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[04:26:33] sevenseacat: amp108: so with the typo, what template gets rendered?
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[04:26:36] sevenseacat: when you render the pdf
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[04:27:30] sevenseacat: Talltree: I'm more surprised you don't care about other things in the URL like the utf8=tick
[04:27:38] amp108: sevenseacat: app/views/occupancies/show.pdf.erb
[04:27:41] Talltree: thats hidden too ;)
[04:27:46] sevenseacat: Talltree: lol
[04:27:57] sevenseacat: amp108: show us the logs?
[04:27:58] Talltree: :enforce_utf8 => false, <3
[04:28:18] sevenseacat: Talltree: I think you're fighting the way the web works for no reason
[04:28:19] rvanlieshout: Talltree: that thing is there for a good reason
[04:28:23] rvanlieshout: and is supposed to be a param
[04:29:35] rvanlieshout: i'd rather have my app working on as many places as possible then having some less data in the url that hardly any visitor will notice
[04:29:49] Talltree: i can leave that in its fine, but empty params really bug me
[04:30:08] Talltree: and i dont need the commit=search param either, so thats hidden too
[04:30:19] Talltree: i get that the utf-8 thing is needed tho
[04:30:25] sevenseacat: good luck mate
[04:30:37] rvanlieshout: and commit=search is only there cause you gave your submit button a name
[04:31:04] Talltree: isnt that the default?
[04:31:05] amp108: sevenseacat: okay, the last 300 lines of development.log is up there
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[04:31:45] sevenseacat: okay that doesn't relate to my question
[04:31:54] sevenseacat: *with the typo*, what view gets rendered?
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[04:32:29] amp108: app/views/occupancies/show.pdf.erb
[04:32:42] sevenseacat: thats not in your logs
[04:32:53] sevenseacat: there is no reference to occupanies in your logs
[04:33:34] amp108: or anywhere else except in routes.rb, which is why it's puzzling me
[04:34:02] sevenseacat: so with the typo in your routes, what URL are you visitng?
[04:34:13] amp108: http://localhost:3000/occupancies?format=pdf
[04:34:21] sevenseacat: ok, so thats not the route with the typo
[04:34:23] sevenseacat: just delete that route
[04:34:31] sevenseacat: its not being used
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[04:34:41] amp108: the one with the typo?
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[04:35:22] sevenseacat: because you also have this https://gist.github.com/amp108/fe8c88bcab00fe70cddeb11e70799374#file-routes-rb-L36 which gets overridden by you 'fixing' the typo
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[04:37:06] amp108: sevenseacat: that makes a lot more sense now
[04:37:23] amp108: thanks, think I'm just too close to the code tonight
[04:38:30] amp108: and with that, I think I'll call it a day. Thanks again.
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[05:03:06] comm64x: hello everyone
[05:05:42] comm64x: I'm building a simple blog but I want the new create update and destroy actions to only be available to a namespaced backend controller. I've got everything set up really good so far. My problem is this...
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[05:06:31] comm64x: I have my routes restricted so only index and show are available to a guest whereas all actions are available to the admin which are namespaced under backend...
[05:06:46] comm64x: My problem is with the migrations
[05:08:38] comm64x: I set my CreatePosts migration to have a :title, :author, and :content columns, but I don't know how to setup the CreateBackendPosts migration.
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[05:09:18] comm64x: Everything should be being created, updated, etc. only through the backend, but I want everything to be shown and indexed on the frontend
[05:09:27] comm64x: I hope this makes sense
[05:09:44] pontiki: no, because migrations are about changing the database schema, not use operations
[05:10:32] comm64x: so do I even need the CreateBackendWhatever migrations?
[05:13:31] comm64x: This was just an idea I was testing out so I ran the scaffold generator and of course you know it goes ahead and creates the migrations. At first I thought I could create the columns like t.string :posts, :column_name but that didnt work lol.
[05:14:00] comm64x: thank you for your help
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[05:14:38] pontiki: the scaffold generator is good for a very very basic CRUD app for learning purposes. most everyone abandanes it soon after
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[05:16:01] pontiki: as soon as you step out of the very very basic CRUD app, which you have in this case (good for you!) you need to start doing more on your own
[05:16:28] comm64x: yeah that's what I've read. I mostly just use it to get something up quick if I want to test out an idea that I haven't been able to find any information about online
[05:16:44] comm64x: pontiki: thanks
[05:16:48] pontiki: you might look at the controller generator in these cases, too
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[05:32:27] comm64x: hmm...what I'd like to do is be able to do all CRUD ops through a backend namespace and have only index and show actions for non-namespaced routes but I'm having problems undefined local variables or methods when I try that...any advice on where I might find some info on this?
[05:33:31] sevenseacat: !admin-namespace
[05:33:31] helpa: A guide on how to add an admin namespace to your Rails application - https://github.com/radar/guides/blob/master/admin-namespace.md
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[05:39:34] comm64x: helpa: haha! that's exactly what I was looking for! thanks so much.
[05:39:52] pontiki: comm64x: helpa is a bot. you should thank sevenseacat
[05:40:16] comm64x: sevenseacat: haha! that's exactly what I was looking for! thanks so much.
[05:42:01] comm64x: I think if I could grok how rails does things it would help a lot. Unfortunately, although very helpful, rails guides only get me so far. Any resources you all know of out there that provide a deeper level of understanding of rails?
[05:42:16] helpa: Rails 4 in Action - http://manning.com/bigg2 - An excellent book combining Rails and TDD/BDD development. Written by Rebecca Skinner, Steve Klabnik, Ryan Bigg, Yehuda Katz
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[05:42:35] pontiki: http://railstutorial.com
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[05:42:49] comm64x: other than just trying to read source code of course lol
[05:42:58] comm64x: pontiki: thanks
[05:43:11] pontiki: http://theodinproject.com
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[07:21:42] conta: how to write this correctly? url: "#{lambda{|a| a.content_type=~%r(image) ? 'images' : 'files'}}/:id/:style/:basename.:extension"
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[07:22:07] conta: I am getting /images/%23%3CProc:0x007fdb808822b0@/Users/janhovancik/Workspace/mixit/mixit-velkoobchod/app/models/asset.rb:10%20%28lambda%29%3E/4/thumb/talking-main-bird.png?1469430334
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[07:23:44] rvanlieshout: conta: "#{a.content_type =~ %r(image) ? :images : :files}/:id/.." ?
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[07:26:44] conta: rvanlieshout you mean change 'images' to :images ? I want to have 'images there'
[07:27:14] rvanlieshout: no, don't use a lambda
[07:27:30] rvanlieshout: the string is ok :)
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[07:28:02] conta: without lambda it doesn't know `a` rvanlieshout
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[07:28:53] rvanlieshout: but that lambda is never called
[07:28:55] rvanlieshout: what's the full context here?
[07:29:37] conta: I'm using paperclip. When file uploaded is image, I wanna have different url for it
[07:29:52] dminuoso: conta: Don't insert complex code into string interpolation. It absolutely sucks to read.
[07:29:57] conta: not sure whether you are familiar with paperclip
[07:30:06] dminuoso: Interpolate variables or trivial expressions if you want.
[07:30:52] dminuoso: conta: Even if your code did what you expected it to, it would require looking at it for a while just to understand what you are trying to do. Even you, in a few weeks from now.
[07:32:06] rvanlieshout: conta: then just use a :file_type, ish and have a method file_type?
[07:32:18] rvanlieshout: similar to how :id, :base and stuff are parsed
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[07:32:48] conta: dminuoso I had url: lambda { |a| a.content_type=~%r(image) ? "images/:id/:style/:basename.:extension" : "files/:id/:style/:basename.:extension" } but i was getting undefined method `include?' for #<Proc:0x007fdb7cfe89b8>:
[07:33:05] conta: so I was trying write it differently
[07:33:22] dminuoso: conta: Because you are passing a lambda when it expects a string.
[07:33:32] dminuoso: What is the reason for this lambda?
[07:33:48] conta: have different url for different file type
[07:33:59] dminuoso: And why do you need a lambda for that?
[07:34:06] conta: with `path: `I have the same thing and it works
[07:34:09] sevenseacat: https://github.com/thoughtbot/paperclip/wiki/Interpolations
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[07:45:43] conta: sevenseacat thanks, I missed that
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[08:05:00] AimlessRAven: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3aa973d3bd589b06a43a87f8b3881164
[08:05:15] AimlessRAven: where this tracker rend my eccomerce
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[08:11:24] vedu: Hello. What are the uses of rendering partials from the controller? Only for AJAX requests like this one: http://stackoverflow.com/a/10539558/1396264 or some more?
[08:11:53] vedu: I couldn't find rendering partials from controllers in rails guides
[08:12:37] AimlessRAven: someone have experience with google eccomerce tracking
[08:14:18] universa1: AimlessRaven: you got an actual question?
[08:14:34] AimlessRAven: universa1: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3aa973d3bd589b06a43a87f8b3881164
[08:14:39] AimlessRAven: where this code in my show action
[08:14:41] AimlessRAven: rend my information
[08:14:46] universa1: !spacenotenter
[08:14:46] helpa: The enter key should not be used as a space bar. Lines on IRC can be up to 400 characters long.
[08:15:09] universa1: AimlessRaven: sounds great, question? ;)
[08:15:38] AimlessRAven: how to see information generated in my tracker do |t|
[08:17:39] universa1: AimlessRaven: o0... ...tbh your ignorance of the advice about gist usage, how to create a good and useful gist is kinda rude imho.
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[08:18:41] universa1: AimlessRaven: !ask -- also this. if you follow this, you can answer 90% of your questions on your own.
[08:18:41] helpa: AimlessRaven: How to ask good questions and get great answers: http://www.mikeash.com/getting_answers.html
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[08:44:32] dionysus69: whats the best way to create two models with devise? I want to have a student and a professor models but would combining them into a single model be useful? professor would have an "admin" tick in db, which one do you recommend ? :S
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[08:45:27] dionysus69: I am scared of potential side effects of having two devise models
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[08:48:47] A_Drone: Is there a way to get the `route_to` matcher without placing a spec in either the `specs/routing` directory or using the `:type => :routing` for the `describe`?
[08:48:53] A_Drone: Both would be wrong in my case. I’m trying to check for a properly formed link in a decorator spec
[08:49:02] A_Drone: (as in Draper::Decorator)
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[08:54:44] silpa: Hi,anyone know how to upload image in rails without losing quality
[08:55:29] rvanlieshout: silpa: by not compressing them?
[08:55:34] rvanlieshout: why would you loose quality?
[08:55:50] silpa: i need compress that
[08:56:06] rvanlieshout: and what exactly is your question then?
[08:56:42] silpa: i want to upload image by compressing
[08:57:12] rvanlieshout: but without losing quality?
[08:57:28] rvanlieshout: then use a loseless compression
[08:57:38] rvanlieshout: lossless even
[08:57:56] tbuehlmann: A_Drone: do you want that matcher be available in every example?
[08:58:21] A_Drone: Nope, one specific example will do tbuehlmann
[08:58:29] A_Drone: Actually one describe block
[08:59:04] tbuehlmann: you could give that block a metatag and include RSpec::Rails::Matchers::RoutingMatchers only for that metatag
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[08:59:31] Talltree: is there an active record way to search for LIKE?
[08:59:43] A_Drone: tbuehlmann +1
[09:00:12] tbuehlmann: as in: RSpec.configure { |config| config.include RSpec::Rails::Matchers::RoutingMatchers, route_matchers: true }, then `describe '...', route_matchers. true` (or similar)
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[09:01:15] tbuehlmann: maybe it's enough to say `config.include ..., :route_matchers`, can't remember
[09:01:29] tbuehlmann: *waves goodbye*
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[09:23:39] Takumo: HI all, is there a gem for devise to do simple e-mail based MFA?
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[09:35:06] dionysus69: does it matter if I create devise admin/nonadmin models in the same namespace?
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[09:42:53] AimlessRaven_: hi all, i wanna use google analytics i have this in my controller action
[09:42:55] AimlessRaven_: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ee951f2b377efd94dd9af3c98ca46fbe
[09:43:11] AimlessRaven_: and output is this js generate on my page source
[09:43:21] AimlessRaven_: is it enought to im sure my data send it to google
[09:43:42] universa1: AimlessRaven_: check your google account?!
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[09:53:23] fox_mulder_cp: dionysus69: why u need two deffirent models? use strong params + devise scoping and devise policies
[09:54:16] fox_mulder_cp: dionysus69: and policies for showing/editing properties fields
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[09:54:53] dionysus69: fox_mulder_cp: ye I dont know, I ll look into that option thanks
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[10:06:10] dionysus69: fox_mulder_cp: by policies you meant using something like cancan correct?
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[10:16:02] fox_mulder_cp: dionysus69: i use devise, for policies, scoping and filtering strong params
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[10:18:07] fox_mulder_cp: + some scoping in models
[10:18:22] fox_mulder_cp: and controllers stay lighter
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[10:18:46] GorillaApe: Reading guides for testing it includes some
[10:18:58] GorillaApe: assert_not stuff. However minitest has only refute
[10:19:10] GorillaApe: did it change after a specific version
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[10:56:38] dionysus69: is it possible to pass partial to partial?
[10:56:47] rvanlieshout: dionysus69: define 'pass'
[10:57:15] dionysus69: like render partial at two different namespaces, but with minor differences so there would be two other partials for those differences
[10:57:50] rvanlieshout: you could render to string, but why would you want to do that?
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[10:58:05] dionysus69: render to string?
[10:58:22] rvanlieshout: http://api.rubyonrails.org/classes/AbstractController/Rendering.html#method-i-render_to_string
[10:58:29] dionysus69: <%= render variable %>, variable being name of partial that I will pass in parent view
[10:58:44] rvanlieshout: oh. so just a variable
[10:58:47] rvanlieshout: you can use locals for that
[10:58:55] dionysus69: and that is ? :D
[10:58:58] rvanlieshout: <%= render partial: 'foobar', locals: { variable: 'hi123' }
[10:59:10] rvanlieshout: the way you should use partials. if any of your partials contains any variable with @, it's wrong :)
[10:59:44] dionysus69: foobar is a generic partial in this case? I want foobar to be variable itself
[10:59:53] rvanlieshout: render partial: foobar
[11:00:06] dionysus69: kk let me try out
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[11:01:18] Torrone: Hello, I'm switching back to ruby/rails after a couple years for a project that I've downloaded, I've been doing some changes to my environment since, now, I'm trying to install all the required gems for the project and bundle install consistently fails, on multiple gems and it's just a nightmare, how do I get around this problem without going crazy after all the versions? I'm using ruby 2.2.2
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[11:01:35] dminuoso: Torrone: Gist your Gemfile and the error, including any full stack trace you might get.
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[11:01:53] dminuoso: Separated nicely, also prepare a cookie jar.
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[11:04:43] Torrone: dminuoso, you're very kind to do this, knowing that this is a project that is currently working because people are working on it, I don't wanna waste your time looking at my code, I'd just like, if you want, to discuss the issue of the dev environment issue with rails which I found consistent every time I used it
[11:05:48] Torrone: I mean, it's just a nighmare to set up most of the time, both on 'vanilla' sys environment and systems I use for other things
[11:05:58] dminuoso: 13:01 < dminuoso> Torrone: Gist your Gemfile and the error, including any full stack trace you might get.
[11:06:04] dminuoso: Otherwise we cannot help you.
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[11:06:44] dminuoso: Torrone: Also include details about: your ruby installation, any gem specialities you have in your setup.
[11:06:57] dminuoso: (say some gem set manager)
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[11:08:59] Torrone: ok I though it was more open to discussion, I've signed not to show the code to anyone, nor it's my point here, I have a gemfile that I assume being correctly set up. Can I put it this way: is there any tool that could help me through this process of setting up my enviroment?
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[11:09:37] rvanlieshout: does bundle install show you any errors, Torrone?
[11:09:38] dminuoso: Torrone: !rule3.3
[11:09:38] helpa: Torrone: NO FAKE CODE. If you're under an NDA, we cannot help you with your problem. Go hire a consultant.
[11:10:25] dminuoso: Torrone: Discussing a problem will not help you, as only seeing your environment, your Gemfile and the exact error message can sensibly allow us to help you find the error.
[11:10:34] dminuoso: Everything else is just pointless discussion that will most likely not yield the correct answers.
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[11:11:21] Torrone: dminuoso, I'm not asking you to work my stuff for me, just some advice, there are many people in this channel, if you can't help me with this, maybe someone else can
[11:11:38] dminuoso: Torrone: We cannot give advice without seeing what your problem is.
[11:11:39] Torrone: dminuoso, thank you anyway! :-)
[11:11:42] dminuoso: You are welcome.
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[11:15:11] fox_mulder_cp: hi. somebody can help me fix this: OpenSSL::SSL::SSLError: SSL_connect returned=1 errno=0 state=error: dh key too small
[11:15:44] dionysus69: rvanlieshout: it would be <%= render 'shared/topNav', statusBarPartial: "shared/studentStatus" %> without locales symbol :)
[11:15:51] conta: Guys, when sending email via send_later, can I get inside the process that sends it? I mean I would like to save email to db (I have model of it)
[11:16:13] dminuoso: fox_mulder_cp: Show us a) the related code, and b) a FULL stack trace.
[11:16:39] dminuoso: conta: What mailer are you using?
[11:16:56] conta: ActionMailer, ActiveJob set to use Delayed_Job
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[11:18:09] dminuoso: conta: http://api.rubyonrails.org/classes/ActionMailer/Base.html
[11:18:13] dminuoso: Look for interceptors.
[11:18:32] dminuoso: Or observers.
[11:18:39] conta: Thanks, right on it
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[11:18:56] fox_mulder_cp: dminuoso: i try use https://github.com/m247/epp-client
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[11:19:16] dminuoso: fox_mulder_cp: That is not a link to a gist showing your code and the full stack trace for the error message.
[11:19:22] dminuoso: Please try again.
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[11:22:03] fox_mulder_cp: dminuoso: trace and script here: https://gist.github.com/foxmuldercp/9514ec8ef39b630d7ec303c78d4ad052
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[11:23:25] dminuoso: fox_mulder_cp: Im not seeing the top level exception in that gist... :S
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[11:24:25] fox_mulder_cp: dminuoso: only one line with dh key too small
[11:24:33] dminuoso: fox_mulder_cp: I would say your OpenSSL library is too new for the gem.
[11:24:48] dminuoso: fox_mulder_cp: Just make it a habit to make the gist compelte in itself for the next time.
[11:25:24] fox_mulder_cp: dminuoso: ooh. i can't fix lib for my requirements :( my skills very small for it
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[11:27:37] dminuoso: fox_mulder_cp: Don't pick outdated gems that haven't received commits in years if you are not willing to manually patch things up if necessary.
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[11:30:48] fox_mulder_cp: hard way - transform perl scripts, easy way - search a clones..., third way use perl as is...
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[11:34:26] AimlessRAven: Can i see in my page source what my google analytics generate
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[12:01:02] kitsuneyo: i have a failing test, 'admin can create new image': https://gist.github.com/kitsuneyo/851a63c8e44007cc523efc7949ac326f. i really can't understand why it fails since it's pretty standard and the actual form works fine
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[12:01:37] sevenseacat: kitsuneyo: so how have you tried debugging it
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[12:03:35] kitsuneyo: sevenseacat, just by trying different permutations i guess
[12:03:59] kitsuneyo: is it byebug i should use for this?
[12:04:12] sevenseacat: so how does your controller respond when you run the test?
[12:05:06] syndikate: sevenseacat, I was googling for some stuff and happened to land on your blog :D
[12:06:03] kitsuneyo: syndikate, i've stumbled on that blog before too
[12:06:27] kitsuneyo: it's got useful stuff
[12:07:01] kitsuneyo: sevenseacat, i added debugger above the problem line. the terminal output for the test is in the gist.
[12:07:45] kitsuneyo: debugger is only telling me where the test fails, which is assert_difference('Image.count', 1) do
[12:07:59] sevenseacat: yes, I saw that
[12:08:25] sevenseacat: so how does your controller respond? does it throw a 500 error? does it redirect? does it turn purple?
[12:08:54] kitsuneyo: sevenseacat, i'm not sure how to find that out in a test
[12:09:07] sevenseacat: kitsuneyo: same way you would in development - check the logs
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[12:13:39] kitsuneyo: ehhh, my logs aren't working so i guess i'd better address that first
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[12:16:24] umarsheikh22: how can i build an app which uses rails sockets
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[12:20:15] kitsuneyo: sevenseacat, i added the output of test.log for the test (with debugger) to the gist: https://gist.github.com/kitsuneyo/851a63c8e44007cc523efc7949ac326f
[12:20:25] kitsuneyo: it seems to just halt
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[12:21:00] sevenseacat: and unless you've removed important parts, it doesn't actually make any requests either
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[12:23:06] kitsuneyo: sorry, that was with debugger in place. i removed debugger and added the full test output
[12:24:36] sevenseacat: kitsuneyo: ""file"=>"#<File:0x007ffb9b5c2148>"
[12:24:43] sevenseacat: does that look right to you?
[12:24:54] sevenseacat: https://gist.github.com/kitsuneyo/851a63c8e44007cc523efc7949ac326f#file-test-log-L11
[12:24:56] kitsuneyo: well, the column is called file
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[12:25:24] kitsuneyo: i guess <File:0x007ffb9b5c2148> is the object uploaded with carrierwave
[12:25:35] kitsuneyo: so i think it looks right
[12:25:42] sevenseacat: no, it's a string representation of a file object, not an actual file
[12:25:54] sevenseacat: you have a string with the content "#<File:0x007ffb9b5c2148>"
[12:26:23] sevenseacat: you also have a decent security hole because a user can just submit someone else's ID as 'uploaded_by_id' but hey
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[12:27:39] kitsuneyo: sevenseacat, thanks on both. i'm struggling with how to use uploaded_by_id but that's a separate issue
[12:28:16] kitsuneyo: what i don't understand is i have this line "file: File.open(Rails.root + "db/seed_images/company_logos/ea.jpg")" in another, similar test and it works
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[12:29:11] kitsuneyo: yeah. well, the test passes and the count goes up by 1
[12:29:35] sevenseacat: so what does that test look like?
[12:32:36] kitsuneyo: sevenseacat... that other test is not the same at all
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[12:34:45] kitsuneyo: i guess i can't use File.open(whatever) in a controller test like this
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[12:41:12] kitsuneyo: sevenseacat, about setting uploaded_by_id. i had added .merge(uploaded_by_id: current_user.id) to image_params, but i only want it to be set when the image is created. what is a safe way to do it?
[12:41:46] sevenseacat: that seems okay, what was wrong with that?
[12:42:09] kitsuneyo: uploaded_by_id will get reset whenever someone edits the image
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[12:42:35] kitsuneyo: because update also used image_params
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[12:42:53] sevenseacat: if you're calling image_params.merge(whatever) in your create action, that has nothing to do with image updat
[12:43:08] sevenseacat: oh, you meant *inside* image_params.... this is why we ask for code
[12:44:49] kitsuneyo: i see. so it should look like Image.create(admin_image_params.merge(uploaded_by_id: current_user.id))
[12:45:08] kitsuneyo: not Image.create(admin_image_params).merge(uploaded_by_id: current_user.id)... which is what didn't work for me before
[12:45:19] kitsuneyo: in the create action
[12:45:22] sevenseacat: yeah that doesnt make any sense to do
[12:45:26] sevenseacat: you cant merge a hash with an Image
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[12:47:15] kitsuneyo: i see that now
[12:47:27] kitsuneyo: thanks again
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[12:52:51] kitsuneyo: sevenseacat, fixture_file_upload solved the problem. you're awesome
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[13:13:14] MartinKragh: Hello friends. I hope someone will answer me a belongs_to question
[13:14:31] rvanlieshout: MartinKragh: sure, go ahead
[13:15:28] MartinKragh: I have created a form for creating a @subject. Afterwards there is a form for a screening, which has to link to the @subject. But when I fill the screening form it says "Subject must exist", because of belongs_to, which is fine. But how to I link the two forms via the button?
[13:16:04] rvanlieshout: you don't link forms, you either set the subject_id in the controller or using a hidden input
[13:17:16] MartinKragh: Yeah, that is what I am looking for, I think
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[13:17:40] MartinKragh: Is it better to do it via the controller or hidden input (never used it before, but I guess I will google it)
[13:17:40] rvanlieshout: could you gist the controller, form and request log for that second form
[13:18:09] ankhers: Is there a way to tell where a validation is coming from? I'm trying to save a model, but it is invalid because of a missing attribute. However, that validation does not seem to be present in the model file representing that object.
[13:18:21] solars: hi, shouldn't Module#prepend work like this? https://gist.github.com/solars/f9d93b1929bd95e3845107d2814a8f52
[13:18:31] rvanlieshout: Ankhers: no, and it shouldn't
[13:18:35] fox_mulder_cp: may somebody knows modern epp-client for ruby? gem 'epp-client' seems unsupported now and it fails to use ssl connection
[13:18:38] rvanlieshout: the controller performing that action should supply that info
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[13:20:49] MartinKragh: rvanlieshout I have some new things to try and google now, I appreciate your guidance ;) Coding has a steep learning curve!
[13:21:15] rvanlieshout: MartinKragh: !gist
[13:21:15] helpa: MartinKragh: http://gist.github.com - Put your codes online with pretty syntax highlighting and the ability to embed it into other pages.
[13:21:35] syndikate: how many of you guys use sublime text?
[13:21:52] MartinKragh: helpa I use gitbucket, can I do it with that too?
[13:22:14] syndikate: rvanlieshout, what all plugins do you make use of ?
[13:22:17] rvanlieshout: MartinKragh: yeah sure
[13:22:47] rvanlieshout: syndikate: base16, syntax for coffeescript, elixir, haml, puppet, sass
[13:23:52] syndikate: Ah okay rvanlieshout. Thanks
[13:24:07] rvanlieshout: are you looking for a particular one, syndikate?
[13:25:11] syndikate: rvanlieshout, I am trying to discover any plugins that would be of use and could help me...I mainly use ST for RoR
[13:25:33] rvanlieshout: me too, those other syntax things are just there because it already has support for rails
[13:25:53] rvanlieshout: and i have a terminal window nearby, got many aliasses in there
[13:26:48] syndikate: Ah okay that helps, do you use linux?
[13:27:06] rvanlieshout: host is osx, dev is running in centos using virtualbox + vagrant + puppet
[13:27:58] syndikate: Ah okay. My base OS is dev. Although it's a small screen. Little clumsy to arrange terminal nearby :D
[13:28:20] rvanlieshout: :) i just don't want to keep track of all dependencies related to different projects
[13:28:40] syndikate: True true, My diff works are on diff vagrant boxes
[13:28:50] syndikate: So I edit on base OS, which is also a dev OS :D
[13:29:22] syndikate: @rvanlieshout, Try sublimelinter
[13:29:36] syndikate: I believe you already are using gitgutter
[13:29:38] rvanlieshout: syndikate: i'll add it to my todo list. thnx
[13:29:51] rvanlieshout: i don't use git operations much in my editor. mostly command line
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[13:31:58] abhinav: how do i view the progress or whats happening when my bundle install is stuck at github aws sdk for eternity?
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[13:36:28] syndikate: @rvanlieshout, ah okay this is just to have notification. I was polluted by Atom's github notifications builtin, would love that in ST where it highlights the edited files in sidebar
[13:37:56] rvanlieshout: i don't have the file-bar open :)
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[13:42:00] solars: can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong with prepend? https://gist.github.com/solars/f9d93b1929bd95e3845107d2814a8f52
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[13:43:22] Dysp: RailsInstaller/Ruby2.2.0/lib/ruby/gems/2.2.0/gems/actionpack-5.0.0.rc2/lib/abstract_controller/helpers.rb:152:in `rescue in block in modules_for_helpers': Missing helper file helpers/d:/arbejde /research_lab/_code/git_resp/app/helpers/application_helper.rb_helper.rb (AbstractController::Helpers::MissingHelperError)
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[13:43:25] Dysp: Help. :|
[13:44:26] arup_r: Dysp: did you notice the mess *application_helper.rb_helper.rb*
[13:44:34] sevenseacat: and helpers/d:/stuff
[13:44:38] arup_r: so rename it to application_helper.rb
[13:44:48] helpa: Dysp: You have not provided enough information to debug your problem. Please provide this information: https://gist.github.com/radar/5384431
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[13:45:01] Dysp: Problem is that it is not called so
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[13:46:28] Dysp: The biggest problem is that I didn't create this problem. My friend did. Now I have to fix it and I have no idea where or how to start.
[13:47:00] Dysp: I was hoping you could point me in the correct direction. I agree the filename is wrong; but in the directory that is not the name of the file. So maybe it is called wrongly somewhere?
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[13:50:33] universa1: Dysp: compare current state with a working state using git?
[13:50:46] Dysp: Good thinking
[13:50:47] Dysp: Trying it
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[13:59:29] dionysus69: something is wrong with devise views, I change them and there's no change in app. The problem might be that I changed html.erb to html.haml extension on all files using haml-rails. any suggestions ?
[13:59:58] sevenseacat: dionysus69: what views are you changing?
[14:00:17] dionysus69: app/views/devise/etc
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[14:00:39] sevenseacat: which view specifically?
[14:00:39] dionysus69: I tried changing shared/_links.html.haml
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[14:01:00] sevenseacat: and what files do your logs say are being rendered?
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[14:02:05] dionysus69: devise/sessions/new.html.haml within layouts/application
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[14:02:20] sevenseacat: gist your logs please
[14:02:48] dionysus69: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/dca84ea23499dd1a6248d8945afc820c
[14:03:26] sevenseacat: and the devise/shared/_links.html.haml its rendering isn't your file?
[14:03:56] sevenseacat: what changes did you make to it?
[14:03:59] dionysus69: no its not rendering because I changed visible text in it and no change was displayed in browser
[14:04:16] sevenseacat: what change did you make? gist the file?
[14:04:22] dionysus69: link_to "Log in", new_session_path(resource_name) log in to bla bla for example
[14:04:55] dionysus69: should I gist file anyway?
[14:05:00] sevenseacat: thats what I asked, yes.
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[14:05:45] dionysus69: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a2b7ce1184706dbd64f445846728d27c
[14:06:09] sevenseacat: dionysus69: see line 1 of that gist
[14:06:16] sevenseacat: and compare it to what controller you're on
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[14:07:49] dionysus69: how do i check which controller am I on? it is a devise controller if it is sessions controller
[14:08:16] sevenseacat: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/dca84ea23499dd1a6248d8945afc820c#file-gistfile1-txt-L3
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[14:09:06] sevenseacat: on the login page, you won't see a login link, so it doesnt matter what text changes you make to it.
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[14:10:15] dionysus69: and what about this? i changed this too https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f6d871bd59eadc167643e0b06d3b5276
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[14:12:28] dionysus69: ok I see changes now :D :) thanks sevenseacat xD I tried two different file changes so I thought haml wasn't recognized and was defaulted back to stock views
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[14:12:44] sevenseacat: your logs said that that wasnt the case
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[14:14:09] dionysus69: ok I ll try pay more attention, I wasn't sure what root url was in case of those relative paths :)
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[14:19:53] SteenJobs: any idea why a resque-scheduler schedule would run fine in dev, yet on production resque loads the schedule but never enqueus it?
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[14:29:43] fox_mulder_cp: somebody uses EPP protocol from ruby? domain registrars, hostmasters..
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[14:54:53] alaing: I keep getting this error on rails 5 when i start up puma. Missing :controller key on routes definition, please check your routes. (ArgumentError)
[14:55:26] alaing: all i have inside Rails.application.routes.draw block is get 'correspondence#new'
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[14:56:32] airdisa: have you defined root path?
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[14:58:44] alaing: airdisa: no i did earlier and had the same error
[14:58:55] alaing: root to: 'correspondence#new'
[15:00:35] airdisa: pattern I’m useing is: get ‘/pathname’ => ‘controller#action’, plus: root 'welcome#index'
[15:01:54] alaing: previously i was using resources :correspondence and it worked except I was getting errors when there were validation errors on the page
[15:01:56] alaing: resources :correspondence, only: [:new, :create]
[15:03:44] alaing: in my create action if there were validation errors I called render :new
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[15:05:49] SteenJobs: alaing: gist your routes?
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[15:06:57] airdisa: maybe try root 'correspondence#new' and if it fails, look into the issue of the key with the rest of the app, i.e. Correspondence.new works and is prepped so new generates instance of the model, since that explains the 'key' part of the error msg
[15:08:11] SteenJobs: alaing: 1) follow the format airdisa showed, where you specify the pathname. 2) controller should most likely be plural
[15:08:28] SteenJobs: so correspondences#action, NOT correspondence#action
[15:08:39] airdisa: ^true story, thanks SteenJobs
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[15:09:27] alaing: once sec, i'm trying to resolve an issue to an existing problem, maybe i'm going about it in the wrong way
[15:09:33] alaing: let me gist my code
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[15:15:49] MartinKragh: Hello, my good friends. I have created a form for creating a @subject. Afterwards there is a form for a screening, which has to link to the @subject. But when I fill the screening form it says "Subject must exist", because of belongs_to, which is fine. But how do I achieve the link from the @subject ? Gist snippet: https://bitbucket.org/snippets/martinkragh/d4LjL/revisions/
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[15:26:30] alaing: SteenJobs airdisa here is my gist https://gist.github.com/aliuk2012/937da95cb19c82139b88aee29f2829dd
[15:27:44] terrabl: I'm having trouble utilitizing asset pipeline to link to some of my font files, for example I need to use the bootstrap-glyphicons but because this app doesn't necessarily need internet access I need it to be able to get it without going to a CDN or something. But whenever I try to link it to app/assets/fonts it isn't finding the .woff file or .eof and such
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[15:27:59] SteenJobs: alaing: please change to resource :correspondences
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[15:35:39] alaing: SteenJobs: i changes that
[15:38:18] SteenJobs: ya, it’s because it’s in the create action, but rendering the :new template, and the url for create is POST /correspondence which is why the url appears that way
[15:38:22] SteenJobs: check this out http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14490098/in-rails-3-when-a-resource-create-action-fails-and-calls-render-new-why-must
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[15:45:51] catcherdev: What’s the going recommendation for performing a task daily? It needs to make an external API call & made a DB update based on the results.
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[15:48:51] tbuehlmann: catcherdev, you could do that with a rake task and run that task once per day
[15:50:21] SteenJobs: catcherdev: check out resque-scheduler
[15:50:27] catcherdev: tbuehlmann: I’m specifically looking for the scheduling part, there are a few options. Heroku has an unreliable scheduler, I also see one for sidekiq
[15:50:48] tbuehlmann: oh? haven't had any problems using the heroku scheduler
[15:51:11] MartinKragh: Quick question.. I have created a form for creating a @subject. Afterwards there is a form for a screening, which is connected to the @subject. But when I fill the screening form it says "Subject must exist", because of belongs_to, which is fine. But how do I make the screening form aware of the @subject ?
[15:52:02] catcherdev: tbuehlmann: yeah, they warn about it right away: https://devcenter.heroku.com/articles/scheduler
[15:52:16] MartinKragh: gist snippet: https://bitbucket.org/snippets/martinkragh/d4LjL
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[16:03:18] SteenJobs: resque scheduler essentially is a wrapper for rake task + cron job, as tbuehlmann said
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[16:07:46] tubbo: catcherdev: > Scheduler has a known issue whereby scheduled processes are occasionally skipped.
[16:07:54] tubbo: catcherdev: don't you wish they were a little less vague? :D
[16:08:28] catcherdev: tubbo: in this rare case, that’s actually enough info :)
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[16:09:07] catcherdev: I’d like to use sidekiq rather than resque too, but the schedulers don’t look great
[16:09:32] tubbo: catcherdev: we use Sidekiq::Cron at work and it gets the job done
[16:09:50] tubbo: i'm still working on activejob-scheduler but haven't had any time/motivation to finish it
[16:10:27] catcherdev: tubbo: I’ve been leaning towards sq-cron, glad to hear it’s working well for you. I’d be looking at 2 different daily tasks, nothing too crazy.
[16:10:46] tubbo: i haven't had any issues with it
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[16:12:30] catcherdev: tubbo: I just noticed that you’re *actually* working on it
[16:12:55] tubbo: i wouldn't just say that :P
[16:13:22] SteenJobs: why no love for resque-scheduler?
[16:13:36] catcherdev: ‘cause sidekiq > resque
[16:13:42] tubbo: SteenJobs: "catcherdev | I’d like to use sidekiq rather than resque too, but the schedulers don’t look great"
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[16:14:33] tubbo: resque-scheduler rocks and is essentially the inspiration behind activejob-scheduler
[16:14:44] SteenJobs: tubbo: ah missed that one, too busy trying to figure out why my schedule works great in development, yet gets loaded but not enqueued on production :D
[16:14:45] tubbo: at the time i was at a company that considered moving to activejob, but we were using resque-scheduler and wanted a replacement
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[16:15:04] tubbo: i feel like resque scheduler needs its own worker process to enqueue jobs
[16:15:10] tubbo: like rake resque:schedule
[16:15:47] SteenJobs: so running ps aux | grep resque gives me separate processes for my scheduled job and my delayed jobs, but i still only have one worker running
[16:17:40] SteenJobs: the proper rake task is run for both - hence why the schedule is loaded (logs confirm that)…but for whatever reason it’s not being enqueued - you think i need min 2 workers running? wouldn’t the scheduled task be processed by the active worker if no delayed jobs are running?
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[16:23:08] tubbo: SteenJobs: do you use a dynamic schedule defined in ruby, or a static one defined in config/jobs.yml?
[16:23:38] SteenJobs: tubbo: static…my guess is you thought i had to set true in the config for dynamic? ;)
[16:24:12] tubbo: just trying to rule out possible differences
[16:24:14] SteenJobs: tubbo: i think it’s a namespace issue since my production and staging servers use the same redis server…i originally had an issue where a job was failing, bec the job class was only on staging, yet the production worker was processing the job
[16:24:20] SteenJobs: yea that was a good q to ask!
[16:24:30] tubbo: SteenJobs: i'm also somewhat interested in the idea that you run scheduled jobs/background jobs in dev
[16:24:33] tubbo: i do not do this
[16:24:56] SteenJobs: tubbo: i don’t - was just testing it to make sure the self.perform() method called by the scheduled job was working
[16:25:07] tubbo: makes sense
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[16:25:59] SteenJobs: it’s an integrity checker of sorts - checks the database for any charges that are 1) overdue 2) have charge_id == nil, indicating the delayed job processed but for whatever reason the charge didn’t go through, and thus tries to charge the customer again
[16:26:08] SteenJobs: the delayed jobs are “installments” for a given purchase
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[16:30:24] tubbo: if that's all you're using a scheduler for i think resque-scheduler might be too much
[16:31:02] tubbo: mostly the benefit to using a scheduler is that it operates on a "queue", not like cron which will execute things asynchronously and not wait for them to end
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[16:31:18] tubbo: like if you tried to make cron jobs for ruby processes every, say, 15 seconds, you'd have a lot of overlapping jobs
[16:31:52] tubbo: but if you're doing something say every day at midnight, chances are it's not gonna take 24 hours to run, so why not just throw it in crontab
[16:31:58] tubbo: less dependencies, less pain
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[16:35:38] SteenJobs: tubbo: cause i need resque scheduler for the delayed jobs primarily - when a customer purchases something, it might need to be paid in four installments over the span of a month
[16:35:54] SteenJobs: so i need to create delayed jobs that will execute at some future date and charge the customer for that installment
[16:36:13] tubbo: so these jobs are going to be run in like, X months from now?
[16:36:14] SteenJobs: the scheduled job is simply to make sure no installments are missed in case stripe’s api is down or something when one of the jobs executes
[16:36:23] SteenJobs: or weeks, days, etc.
[16:36:33] tubbo: why can't the charge job just retry itself when that happens?
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[16:36:58] SteenJobs: how would it know? from the perspective of resque, the job has been processed…even if stripe timesout or whatnot
[16:37:17] tubbo: because stripe will throw an error when the charge doesn't succeed?
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[16:38:14] xploshioon: hello people, can someone help me with this?
[16:38:17] xploshioon: https://gist.github.com/xploshioOn/9a96b5d5aaef237a38ec13847513d969
[16:38:45] xploshioon: I try to run rails s and it says middleware/stack.rb:74:in `insert': can't modify frozen Array (RuntimeError)
[16:38:45] tubbo: SteenJobs: in my experience, stripe will throw an exception if a charge does not succeed, so i think you'd know when the job fails in the job itself.
[16:38:54] SteenJobs: right - i guess i could recursively rescue said error and recreate the job if need be, but i think it’s safer to do what i’m doing now which is: two scheduled jobs - one checks for any charges in db who’s due_date < DateTime.now && charge_id == nil, and if it finds any, it’ll charge them
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[16:39:08] SteenJobs: becauseeeee
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[16:39:37] tubbo: xploshioon: add config/environment.rb and config.ru to that gist, since those are the files that the error actually occurs on.
[16:39:45] SteenJobs: these charges can be for tens of thousands of dollars - so i actually just implemented a two step process which allows for approval (juuuust to make sure the person doesn’t get charged twice, which can happen, albeit rarely, with stripe):
[16:40:06] tubbo: SteenJobs: i don't understand how the person can get charged twice using my strategy.
[16:40:36] SteenJobs: tubbo: imagine stripe charges but for whatever reason the response timesout or doesn’t go thru
[16:40:45] SteenJobs: the CEO wanted a way to manually approve a “recharge” event
[16:40:53] tubbo: does stripe do that?
[16:41:16] xploshioon: @tubbo done https://gist.github.com/xploshioOn/9a96b5d5aaef237a38ec13847513d969
[16:41:27] xploshioon: its a rails 5 application
[16:41:36] SteenJobs: first scheduled job will generate an email to us with the IDs of those late charges, and the second job will process those payments if their “approved” attribute is set to true - this way we get notified of any late charges, go into admin panel and approve/don’t approve and then second job charges all approved Charge objects
[16:41:41] xploshioon: idk if this has something to do
[16:41:50] tubbo: xploshioon: ok haha just making sure you weren't doing anything crazy with middleware. looks like a default app. what changes did you make?
[16:42:01] xploshioon: bundle update
[16:42:08] tubbo: SteenJobs: i see what you mean
[16:42:20] tubbo: xploshioon: doing `bundle update` without specifying a gem can be problematic.
[16:42:27] xploshioon: and then it crashed
[16:42:31] SteenJobs: i thought it was a reasonably clever implementation while being as safe as possible when handling charges of a loooot of bones
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[16:42:48] xploshioon: is there a way of how can I put back a bundle update?
[16:42:48] tubbo: it updates all gems to the latest version. that's not normally what you want in most apps that have possibly a hundred or so gems to depend on.
[16:42:50] SteenJobs: (meant ironically)
[16:43:32] tubbo: xploshioon: well the way bundler works is by reading Gemfile.lock to determine which gems (and versions) to use. unless you ran `bundle clean`, all the old gems should still be there, just not in the $LOAD_PATH.
[16:43:39] xploshioon: I saw that is problematic hehe
[16:43:56] havenwood: xploshioon: git checkout -- Gemfile.lock
[16:43:56] tubbo: SteenJobs: my personal opinion is...if your code requires a retry, there is something wrong that you are bandaging.
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[16:44:39] xploshioon: @havendwood that did the trick!
[16:44:45] havenwood: xploshioon: (Presuming you've been using git and had committed the Gemfile.lock before this change.)
[16:44:50] tubbo: computers are deterministic. even network failures are deterministic. i've never seen a single instance in the 10+ years i've been working with software where i sent an auth/capture request to a payment gateway and it just didn't charge anything, but told me it did.
[16:44:54] tubbo: unless that was a bogus gateway haha
[16:45:09] xploshioon: thank you both guys @tubbo @havenwood
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[16:45:48] SteenJobs: tubbo: my 1hr of internet at this cafe ran out haha did my message go thru?
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[16:48:04] SteenJobs: what if stripe or my server simply has a timeout. just need to make sure because we’re not talking about a blog post comment…we’re talking charges that are a min. of 10k [12:44pm]
[16:49:35] tubbo: SteenJobs: yeah i mean, that's not what i'm talking about either. i'm working with a $30mil/year company who processes a few hundred orders a day at multiple hundreds of dollars.
[16:49:55] tubbo: SteenJobs: prior companies i've worked for have transferred tens of thousands of dollars in single transactions...and none of them failed.
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[16:50:01] SteenJobs: so perfect example - wouldn’t you need a defense against random errors like a timeout causing it not to go through?
[16:50:02] tubbo: at least, if the request failed the charge did not go through.
[16:50:11] Pwnna: why is rails boot so slow?
[16:50:21] tubbo: Pwnna: it's not
[16:50:30] SteenJobs: exactly - so in that case, the job won’t be queued anymore, and i need a way to make sure the customer still gets charged, no?
[16:50:44] tubbo: Pwnna: ruby isn't the fastest language in the world. what are you comparing it to?
[16:50:55] SteenJobs: ya help them out - tbc
[16:51:02] Pwnna: django and such, their boot time is more or less instance.
[16:51:03] SteenJobs: i have a lead re schedule not being run
[16:51:12] tubbo: SteenJobs: well like in the case of sidekiq, it automatically retries my jobs when an exception is thrown.
[16:51:21] tubbo: Stripe::Error is an exception, so i don't have to do anything to retry the job. it just works.
[16:51:23] Pwnna: so what's rails actually doing?
[16:51:27] Pwnna: i'm just curious
[16:51:41] SteenJobs: right makes sense - i don’t think resque does, but i should double check
[16:51:44] havenwood: Pwnna: Are you talking Rails 5 on Ruby 2.3?
[16:51:46] tubbo: Pwnna: i wouldn't call django's boot time "instant", but it's probably a little faster than rails.
[16:51:53] Pwnna: havenwood: no :( i haven't done that yet.
[16:51:58] tubbo: but yeah, ruby version and rails version matters.
[16:51:59] Pwnna: 4.2 rails on 2.2
[16:52:28] Pwnna: what takes the most amt of time in rails boot, i'm just curious
[16:52:52] Pwnna: like on a standard, simple kind of todo app
[16:53:04] Pwnna: super non-practical, but just a theoretical question anyway
[16:53:51] havenwood: Pwnna: Are you talking about the dev environment?
[16:54:08] SteenJobs: tubbo: in the web interface for resque, there’s text that says “Current master:” and lists the production worker (rather than the staging worker) which i’m sure is the problem - bec when run locally, Current master: shows my local worker
[16:54:08] Pwnna: that's one
[16:54:20] Pwnna: well that's where i feel the most pain
[16:54:20] sumobob: hmm I'm having an issue with serializers, was hoping I could get some help.
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[16:54:24] SteenJobs: tubbo: so it’s gotta be a namespace/tenancy thing
[16:54:30] Pwnna: whereas in production i don't feel it nearly as much with graceful restarts
[16:54:42] sumobob: in my controller I have a method that ends with render json: user
[16:54:47] sumobob: and i get everything the way i like
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[16:54:52] Pwnna: i'm not trying to fix aanything, this is just purely curiosity, tbh
[16:55:00] SteenJobs: tubbo: gotta run for a bit though, tbc - peace brother
[16:55:10] sumobob: in my user model i have another method though that returns UserSerialize.new(self).to_json
[16:55:24] sumobob: these two JSON objects do not look the same
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[16:55:54] sumobob: any idea whats going on?
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[17:00:33] Pwnna: anyhow. that aside. is there a way in ruby to get a migration object via its version number without something like: ActiveRecord::Migrator.migrations("db/migrate").detect { |m| m.version == version }?
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[17:01:04] Pwnna: actually with that you get a MigrationProxy
[17:01:16] Pwnna: so you need to do .send(:migration) after
[17:02:14] matthewd: Pwnna: Probably not.. but why do you want to?
[17:02:39] Pwnna: i need to selectively run some migrations within ruby code rather than any console
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[17:03:23] matthewd: Okay, why do you want to do that?
[17:04:14] Pwnna: it's a complicated environment. basically there are migrations that needs to be run from background jobs.
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[17:05:30] Pwnna: yeah from reading the code this is not something that exists it seems..
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[17:05:52] matthewd: That really doesn't sound like something migrations are suited for
[17:06:51] pickandmix_: Hi, I'm currently working on the rails tutorial. I'm on here right now. Listing 5.37
[17:06:58] pickandmix_: https://www.railstutorial.org/book/filling_in_the_layout#code-full_title_helper_tests
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[17:07:34] pickandmix_: In the code block within Listing 5.37, There's the 'FILL_IN' beside the assert_equal, I'm not sure what should I fill in with
[17:07:36] pickandmix_: Can someone advice?
[17:08:38] harfangk: did you understand the question?
[17:09:09] pickandmix_: harfangk: I believe so, anyway I followed the question.
[17:09:09] harfangk: it's asking you to fill in
[17:09:17] harfangk: the expected value of the test
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[17:09:21] pickandmix_: assert_equal expected, actual
[17:09:24] pickandmix_: so I set it to be like this.
[17:09:26] harfangk: so that assert_equal would return true
[17:09:33] pickandmix_: assert_equal full_title, full_title
[17:09:50] pickandmix_: I did the rail test and it succeed.
[17:10:15] pickandmix_: Because assert_equal is a comparism between expected & actual.
[17:10:47] pickandmix_: Just that I feel what I did was abit redundant. Like why would I compare two exact values.
[17:11:35] harfangk: i don't think that's what the test is asking...
[17:11:43] harfangk: i'm looking for the definition of full_title helper
[17:12:42] harfangk: https://www.railstutorial.org/book/_single-page#code-title_helper
[17:13:12] harfangk: https://www.railstutorial.org/book/rails_flavored_ruby#code-title_helper
[17:13:20] harfangk: actually use the second link
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[17:13:55] harfangk: so for assert_equal full_title, FILL_IN
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[17:14:01] pickandmix_: okay so it should be
[17:14:07] pickandmix_: assert_equal full_title, "Ruby on Rails Tutorial Sample App"?
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[17:15:02] pickandmix_: assert_equal full_title("Help"), "Help | Ruby on Rails Tutorial Sample App"?
[17:15:14] harfangk: yeah i think that will pass the test
[17:15:16] matthewd: The arguments should actually be the other way around, but that's an issue in the problem statement / supplied listing
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[17:16:50] pickandmix_: harfangk: Yep. You are right.
[17:16:58] pickandmix_: It worked, thank you! Way clearer now.
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[17:17:53] harfangk: i'm glad it worked
[17:17:56] maraggos: I have a form that is remote: true. Is it even possible to somehow when a user checks a checkbox to change this remote true to false?
[17:19:07] harfangk: maraggos i'm not sure if that'd be possible, but someone might know better
[17:19:23] maraggos: harfangk ty
[17:20:40] harfangk: now i can't seem to figure out why my puma server runs on port 55555 when in puma.rb default port is set to 3000 - can anyone help me?
[17:21:06] harfangk: i can just run rails s -p 3000 but i want to know what black magic could be causing this
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[17:25:26] maraggos: harfangk: are you sure any other settings from puma.rb are been read and initialised?
[17:26:48] harfangk: maraggos well it's a brand new rails 5.0 toy project so there's only default stuff in puma.rb so i'm not sure
[17:27:17] maraggos: harfangk make sure the server does not ingore that puma.rb file first
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[17:28:48] harfangk: maraggos ah looking at puma.rb gave me a lead to figure this out! thank you
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[17:29:06] harfangk: i actually had an ENV variable set up for port number - i don't remember why lol
[17:29:16] harfangk: so that was of course taking precedence over 3000
[17:31:08] iamdevnul: anybody have some experience with the AASM gem? I'm trying to redefine a state machine in a child class that has a state machine defined in the parent. They have similiar events and states but with some differences, and they need to share the same column.
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[17:31:55] adavia: if i do Conversation.includes(:messages).order("messages.created_at") will bring me up all conversations ordered by the most recent message?
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[17:32:48] arup_r: hello, can anyone tell me why my query gives 0 result, where I see there are data for the date ranges? https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/c52ba0e30fc37c8fa1ae1922963a95b0
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[17:35:04] arup_r: nvm ignore me
[17:35:53] iamdevnul: did you figure it out arup_r? i can tell you your problem
[17:35:59] arup_r: iamdevnul: yes
[17:36:07] arup_r: I wrote the range reverse.
[17:36:36] arup_r: iamdevnul: but thanks for showing your interest. :)
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[17:42:00] harfangk: does anyone know where else i can set up environment variable other than: .zshrc, /etc/zshenv, /etc/profile? where did i set this port thing lol
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[17:43:30] arup_r: harfangk: https://github.com/bkeepers/dotenv
[17:43:42] arup_r: ^ that helps youå
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[18:12:50] MartinKragh: Would anyone be so heroic to answer me a basic question about belong_to ? :)
[18:12:51] dionysus69: what do you use for browser auto reload on file change?
[18:13:19] arup_r: MartinKragh: ok, please go ahead!
[18:13:44] MartinKragh: I have created a form for creating a @subject. Afterwards there is a form for a screening, which is connected to the @subject. But when I fill the screening form it says "Subject must exist", because of belongs_to, which is fine. But how do I make the screening form aware of the @subject ?
[18:14:23] arup_r: MartinKragh: time to show your form and corresponding controller actions
[18:14:36] MartinKragh: https://bitbucket.org/snippets/martinkragh/d4LjL
[18:14:47] arup_r: so fast!.. nice :D
[18:15:04] MartinKragh: Thought you would ask!
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[18:16:59] tubbo: seems like your issue is that you're creating a new Screening with Screening.new, which makes sense for most cases.
[18:17:13] tubbo: in this case, however, i assume you have a Subject that you want it to be applied to
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[18:17:38] MartinKragh: It must not be able to exist without being applied to the specific subject
[18:17:39] tubbo: so you need to first find the subject, possibly with @subject = Subject.find(params[:subject_id]) (assuming this controller is routed like e.g. /projects/1/screenings)
[18:17:59] tubbo: then you can do something like @screening = @subject.build_screening(screening_params)
[18:18:49] tubbo: what that does is make Screening have a subject_id of @subject.id
[18:19:02] tubbo: and ensures that the Screening gets applied to the right Project without having to rely on user input
[18:19:17] tubbo: MartinKragh: !associations for more info on what you can do with this interface. it's pretty powerful
[18:19:17] helpa: MartinKragh: http://guides.rubyonrails.org/association_basics.html - Active Record Association Basics by Mike Gunderloy
[18:20:10] MartinKragh: Wow, thanks. It seems like what I am looking for
[18:20:34] tubbo: MartinKragh: ok wait a second that link isn't gonna tell you more about what i was saying
[18:20:40] tubbo: i thought it was there but i guess i'm full of shit
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[18:21:31] tubbo: but yeah basically if it's a has_one :screening, Rails defines build_screening and create_screening for you
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[18:21:43] tubbo: if it's has_many :screenings, you get a screenings method that has other methods like create and build defined for you
[18:21:57] tubbo: so @project.screenings.build vs. @project.build_screening
[18:22:11] MartinKragh: Ah, so has_one is like has_many but where it can ONLY have 1 of them?
[18:22:19] tubbo: you can also do regular AR query things like @project.screenings.where(params).limit(per_page), etc.
[18:22:31] tubbo: yes, well..."ONLY" is a harsh term
[18:22:55] tubbo: it's more that you tell AR "I expect one particular row in this other table to be associated with this one. find the first match."
[18:23:10] tubbo: and then AR defines some nice methods for you that make working with this relational data point easier
[18:23:40] tubbo: the way the has_* macros work is by basically defining a few methods on the instance of your model
[18:24:25] MartinKragh: Ah okay. So changing it from has_many to has_one doesn't make that big of a difference?
[18:24:28] tubbo: belongs_to is a little more complex because it assumes some schema is already present on the table. has_* is a little more loose.
[18:24:39] tubbo: right, like...you don't need to make a migration
[18:25:09] tubbo: however, you should probably ensure that there really is only one row in there per parent record, because otherwise you might get a different record sometimes
[18:25:17] tubbo: depending on how your db sorts results
[18:26:12] MartinKragh: well having two screenings per subject doesn't make sense, so thats what I am hoping to avoid :D
[18:26:21] MartinKragh: This is so amazingly helpful
[18:26:51] MartinKragh: I didn't fully understand the "@project.screenings.build vs. @project.build_screening" part though... Is it depending on *_many vs *_one?
[18:27:27] tubbo: i'm actually not entirely sure if you don't get build_screening or create_screening with a has_many
[18:27:37] tubbo: but i do know that you don't get @project.screening.build with a has_one
[18:27:49] tubbo: because @project.screening would be nil, and there's no build or create method on nil :)
[18:28:06] tubbo: that said, build_screening and create_screening might work regardless.
[18:28:07] helpa: Why don't you try it and find out for yourself?
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[18:29:33] MartinKragh: hahaha :D Thanks, I will use my night to test it all. So kind of you.
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[18:31:23] machty: is the activerecord connection pool per-process?
[18:31:42] machty: e.g. if i set the database.yml max to 20, will each puma process try and make 20 connections?
[18:31:46] machty: puma worker process
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[18:33:13] moresilenter: Hi! I have a question about rails routing
[18:33:36] moresilenter: if a path matches multiple routes, is there any way within the first action that fires because of a match, that I can tell it to move on to the next match
[18:33:42] moresilenter: (if that makes any sense)
[18:33:48] tubbo: machty: i thought it was total number of connections that you have available for the app process, because it wouldn't know about other AR connections making the same requests to your database
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[18:34:36] machty: tubbo: that seems correct to me, just realizing that after the puma fork, it tries to reconnect and the pool size seems like it'll be 20 for each worker process
[18:34:41] tubbo: machty: i suppose if you wanted to be slick you would add the $MAX_THREADS value you use for puma with the amount of background job workers that you're running
[18:35:06] tubbo: well if you find out anything more let me know because that seems interesting as i'm trying to upgrade my app to rails 5
[18:35:53] moresilenter: oh great! it looks like there is a method called "pass" maybe that I need
[18:37:08] tubbo: moresilenter: can you show us your routes file in a gist so we can see what you're trying to do?
[18:37:38] moresilenter: def! one second
[18:38:36] moresilenter: https://gist.github.com/elju/c5cd918b214f073c3b850ec953a333e2
[18:38:41] moresilenter: that is the gist of what is going on
[18:38:51] moresilenter: (except simplified)
[18:39:39] tubbo: have you tried putting `get 'attributes'` above `get ':link'`?
[18:39:42] moresilenter: and I'd like /events/attributes to match the 2nd one, but /events/:id to go to a different action
[18:39:54] moresilenter: in my actual version, I don't have the ability to do that, because one of them is a concern :(
[18:40:01] moresilenter: and the other isn't
[18:40:05] moresilenter: so I don't have the ability to control the order
[18:40:07] tubbo: also, if they're supposed to be a collection they should be surrounded in a collection block
[18:40:28] tubbo: oh i see what you mean, hang on
[18:41:06] moresilenter: in sinatra, there is a method called "pass" that tells the router to move on to the next matching route
[18:41:11] moresilenter: I don't know if there is anything like that in rails
[18:41:24] moresilenter: that I could call from within the controller action
[18:41:30] tubbo: moresilenter: https://gist.github.com/tubbo/921ed2b3d7455062163d1635efd1b502
[18:41:57] tubbo: your `rake routes` will show that /events/:id points to the 'events#show' action, and /events/attributes points to the 'events#attributes' action.
[18:42:27] tubbo: you said it was a concern, so i'm gonna modify the gist to show you how you can refactor what i did into a concern. it's pretty easy.
[18:42:29] moresilenter: hmmm, right now they are all going to show, but I must just have an error that isn't in the gist
[18:42:35] moresilenter: ok, great thanks
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[18:43:52] tubbo: ok there we go, i updated it.
[18:44:25] tubbo: your original example had get ':link' pointing to some non-standard action. i would advise not doing that
[18:44:59] tubbo: "don't fight the framework" is a great motto when developing rails apps. it's conventional for a reason, and in some cases following conventions is the better solution because it's faster and doesn't matter.
[18:45:24] moresilenter: ok, I'll give this a shot
[18:45:27] moresilenter: thanks for the help!
[18:45:32] tubbo: no problem
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[18:46:12] machty: tubbo: this excellent SO post answered all of my questions http://stackoverflow.com/a/22404491/914123
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[18:54:27] adavia: if i do Conversation.includes(:messages).order("messages.created_at") will bring me up all conversations ordered by the most recent message?
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[19:05:14] dminuoso: adavia: Note you can and should use orer(created_at: :asc) (or :desc) instead of using SQL fargments.
[19:06:51] adavia: sure.. but it still not ordering as expected =/
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[19:08:36] dminuoso: adavia: "not as expected" means what exactly?
[19:09:21] [spoiler]: How come I have to add this manually in Dev (I was getting `Missing host to link to! Please provide :host parameter or set default_url_options[:host]`): `config.after_initialize { routes.default_url_options = config.action_mailer.default_url_options }`
[19:09:31] [spoiler]: It seems to pick it up fine in Test env?
[19:11:38] [spoiler]: Ok, more specifically: it wasn't working in `rails console` (& using `pry-rails` gem), not sure if it's just console-related or if it wasn't working on dev production on the web.
[19:11:59] dminuoso: [spoiler]: Before we debug this seriously, let's look at the usual suspects. Are you using spring?
[19:13:05] adavia: dminuoso: if i have conv1 with messages created_at: 2 days ago and conv2 with messages created_at: 1 day ago i expect to retrieve [con2, conv1] but i still get [conv1, conv2]
[19:13:48] dminuoso: adavia: What code were you using to produce said output?
[19:14:31] adavia: dminuoso: Conversation.includes(:messages).order("messages.created_at")
[19:14:58] dminuoso: 21:05 < dminuoso> adavia: Note you can and should use orer(created_at: :asc) (or :desc) instead of using SQL fargments.
[19:15:16] adavia: that would fix it?
[19:15:30] dminuoso: If you don't supply an order, you probably get whatever your RDBMS is assuming by default. You should always be explicit about order.
[19:15:38] dminuoso: And yes, using symbols over strings is generally great if you can.
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[19:20:10] [spoiler]: dminuoso: oh yes, I am using spring. I know it's a bit patchy, but I didn't think it would be affecting the console too
[19:21:24] dminuoso: [spoiler]: Even the console uses spring. You should really remove it, as it adds very little benefit to your system generally while being a nasty source of bugs. Feel free to completely ignore this advice at any rate, I won't care.
[19:21:37] dminuoso: Anyway, does restarting string solve your problem?
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[19:24:49] adavia: dminuoso: so this is what you meant order(messages: {created_at: :desc}) ?
[19:25:24] [spoiler]: ok the error persists even without spring running (restarted the rails sever too, just in case)
[19:25:32] [spoiler]: adding the block resolves it, again
[19:26:05] dminuoso: adavia: No, I meant exactly what I wrote.
[19:26:46] dminuoso: [spoiler]: Gist the error message with any stack trace, and the relevant config + config/environment for all related environments.
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[19:37:21] queuetip: if i have a rails app in a dev environment, can i insert debug statements directly to see what values there are or is there caches i have to clear first? in php i would just: die(var_dump($val));
[19:37:56] queuetip: but for instance in php with symfony i'd have to also clear doctrine cache or other cache depending, i'm just wondering what's normal for a rails app in a dev env
[19:38:18] queuetip: i'm obviously new to ror
[19:38:27] dminuoso: queuetip: Rails does some better. You can directly debug into rails whereever you want.
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[19:39:04] queuetip: dminuoso: great! then i must be doing something else wrong lol
[19:39:07] dminuoso: queuetip: Please checkout byebug and pry (and pry-byebug) to allow you to directly break into your application wherever you want, and interactively inspect your environment and run code as you want.
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[19:39:29] queuetip: dminuoso: oh awesome. is that like a gem?
[19:39:49] queuetip: in any case, thanks for the help!
[19:39:53] dminuoso: queuetip: Yeah. pry is basically a replacement for irb, whereas byebug is "the" ruby debugger.
[19:40:02] dminuoso: And pry-byebug tries to combine these two.
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[19:46:06] fox_mulder_cp: current view of my apps hosting control panel :) https://1drv.ms/i/s!AvS3PCPMZNLuiLEaiZjWEwpgr7hdVA
[19:47:31] [spoiler]: dminuoso: here it is: https://gist.github.com/omninonsense/282ee62e06af1aff19b51d54dd0b3bf4
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[19:48:03] dminuoso: [spoiler]: !cookie
[19:48:03] helpa: [spoiler]: Congratulations! You have earned a delicious, fresh-made cookie. :)
[19:48:17] dminuoso: First customer today who knows how to use gist.
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[19:48:55] [spoiler]: I'm not completely new to Rails, but the last time I used Rails was ~3.2 or something
[19:49:57] [spoiler]: The environment files are just snips, the rest is the default Rails generates (I can include it if necessary, but I didn't find anything relevant in it)
[19:50:05] dminuoso: [spoiler]: Im not sure whether you can do this in an after_initialize hook.
[19:50:38] dminuoso: [spoiler]: Looking at your gists, it's the only thing that somehow bugs me.
[19:50:48] dminuoso: Well, that and those spring messages :-)
[19:50:49] [spoiler]: dminuoso: it seems to work, though. I can move it outside the hook, it'll work the same
[19:51:28] [spoiler]: Oh, I forgot to clarify: pry1 is without the after_initialize, pry2 is with it
[19:51:32] dminuoso: [spoiler]: please edit your gist and also attach your config/application.rb
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[19:51:51] dminuoso: [spoiler]: Heh. Well, so my initution was right.
[19:52:44] dminuoso: [spoiler]: So what is the problem if "it works"
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[19:53:19] [spoiler]: dminuoso: application.rb wasn't modified, but I've updated the gist.
[19:53:56] [spoiler]: While it Works™, I am curious why it's necessary in Dev, but not in Test env. :P
[19:54:11] dminuoso: [spoiler]: You are not using an after_initialie hook in your test environment.
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[19:54:18] dminuoso: [spoiler]: *after_initialize
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[19:55:14] [spoiler]: Yes, that's exactly my question. :D Why is it not necessary in test env, but is in the development environment
[19:55:24] [spoiler]: Or at least why is it necessary inside the console
[19:56:26] dminuoso: Now I understand so in development mode you claim you have to wrap this in an after_initializer block.
[19:57:01] [spoiler]: The test in passes just fine without the after_initialize hook (which means `root_url` works fine), but I get the weird warning/error inside development environment (after some messing around in the console, I tried this "tweak," moved it to the dev.rb file and it worked)
[19:57:30] [spoiler]: the test in Test environment (damn environment is such a long word that's easy to typo)*
[19:57:32] drale2k: Can someone explain the difference between "stream_from" and "ActionCable.server.broadcast" ? I don't get it
[19:57:33] dminuoso: [spoiler]: Can you provide a full stacktrace for the exception?
[19:57:43] [spoiler]: dminuoso: that is the full stack trace :P
[19:57:51] [spoiler]: That's what baffles me
[19:58:12] dminuoso: [spoiler]: No it is not.
[19:58:20] dminuoso: [spoiler]: type wtf??!?!?!?!!!????!
[19:59:04] dminuoso: A single question probably suffices tho :-)
[19:59:08] dminuoso: question mark.
[19:59:31] matthewd: drale2k: You've read the guide? http://edgeguides.rubyonrails.org/action_cable_overview.html#streams
[19:59:59] [spoiler]: I am not completely new to Ruby; I know what a stack trace looks like. The outputs in pry1 and pry2 are not truncated, it's the whole thing
[20:00:19] dminuoso: [spoiler]: They are not. What is the output of "wtf??" in pry after you get the exception?
[20:00:20] drale2k: matthewd: yes sure. The first sentence of both sounds very similar to me
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[20:00:31] dminuoso: [spoiler]: pry by default will only show you the head of a stacktrace
[20:00:50] [spoiler]: Is that... configurable? I don't recall turning it on
[20:01:15] dminuoso: [spoiler]: It's possible.
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[20:01:37] drale2k: the "broadcast" method pushes the message down the pipe to the subscriber right ?
[20:01:42] dminuoso: Generally its fine, as it just clutters up screenspace, and for the few times where you need a full stack trace you can just type wtf??
[20:02:36] drale2k: can you think of it this way that a "stream_from" is a gun and "broadcast" is a bullet ?
[20:02:59] dminuoso: drale2k: actually they are both methods.
[20:03:04] dminuoso: But what do I know.
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[20:04:05] drale2k: dminuoso: ok so?
[20:04:14] drale2k: that was never the question :P
[20:04:55] matthewd: drale2k: No; stream_from declares an interest in a particular set of messages, and arranges to have them sent down to the client
[20:04:58] dminuoso: drale2k: If you require such poor analogies to understand actioncable, you might want to get a basic book on pub/sub pattern.
[20:05:14] SteenJobs: tubbo: boom, got it (the resque-scheduler issue where it would load the schedule but not enqueue
[20:05:21] matthewd: dminuoso: ... :|
[20:05:22] dminuoso: And then use the pub/sub terminology to describe actioncable, not guns and bullets.
[20:05:36] [spoiler]: Tested it outside of the hook and it works the same; updated the gist now: https://gist.github.com/omninonsense/282ee62e06af1aff19b51d54dd0b3bf4
[20:05:44] drale2k: dminuoso: you are of 0 help but what do i know
[20:05:49] [spoiler]: The file I added is `pry1.wtf?`
[20:05:54] SteenJobs: tubbo: turned out my namespace wasn’t being picked up bec i set Resque.redis.namespace before Resque.redis = Redis.new(), so it was being overwritten. turns out reading the source code is often the best kind of docs :)
[20:05:57] matthewd: drale2k: broadcast sends the given message to all clients that have registered such an interest
[20:06:06] drale2k: an analogies is as good as it helps me understand it
[20:06:08] brendenyule: Hello, I am trying to use force_ssl, but exclude a single page in rails 4. I don't think I am using the right syntax for rails 4, and I am actually having a hard time finding it. Here is what I am using: https://gist.github.com/brendenyule/332e351c6a370272a5b0b0ecab271608
[20:06:21] dminuoso: [spoiler]: I gotta digest that stacktrace for a minute, this is already giving me headaches.
[20:06:36] [spoiler]: dminuoso: It's giving me a headache, too :P
[20:06:48] drale2k: matthewd: ok that's i think what i meant by gun and bullet. I think i get it thanks
[20:07:08] dminuoso: [spoiler]: I mean those bottom three frames make no sense to me.
[20:07:11] [spoiler]: I honestly don't mind slapping that one line in each environment, but I am still curious why it behaves so differently
[20:08:04] dminuoso: [spoiler]: Oh, add more quesitonmarks to your wtf. It's still truncated.
[20:08:16] dminuoso: [spoiler]: (I know I know...), so something like wtf????
[20:09:01] [spoiler]: It took four question marks, yeah
[20:09:14] dminuoso: [spoiler]: You can also use exclamation marks if that helps.. you can freely mix them together...
[20:09:20] dminuoso: Okay, back to topic!
[20:11:15] [spoiler]: dminuoso: updated the gist: https://gist.github.com/omninonsense/282ee62e06af1aff19b51d54dd0b3bf4#file-pry1-wtf
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[20:13:54] dminuoso: [spoiler]: Im seriously trying to understand how the code relates to the stack trace.
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[20:15:57] [spoiler]: dminuoso: maybe it's a bug with the ruby-pry gem spring and rails and the moon phase
[20:16:03] fox_mulder_cp: tubbo: do u see my panel's screenshot? i posted it here
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[20:17:01] dminuoso: [spoiler]: I must be missing something obvious. Rails does not change the way how Ruby works, that callstack makes no sense from where I stand.
[20:17:15] dminuoso: [spoiler]: But it's conceivable that spring does lots of magic.
[20:17:45] dminuoso: [spoiler]: https://gist.github.com/omninonsense/282ee62e06af1aff19b51d54dd0b3bf4#file-pry1-wtf-L8 this should either be a method called url_for or method_missing.
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[20:21:18] [spoiler]: same thing with IRB
[20:21:24] [spoiler]: https://gist.github.com/omninonsense/282ee62e06af1aff19b51d54dd0b3bf4#file-irb
[20:21:46] dminuoso: [spoiler]: Oh! No it's all good I get the stacktrace now.
[20:22:02] dminuoso: This is a dynamically defined method, the diagnostics just suck a bit.
[20:22:26] [spoiler]: #metaprogrammingproblems
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[20:26:00] dminuoso: [spoiler]: So here is what I figured out so far, the relevant options for this are set when those url helpers are defined.
[20:26:10] [spoiler]: I am apparently not the only one with this problem. People solved it differently, though (on SO). I feel like my way is better, though. Most people define `default_url_options = {…}` inside their routes.rb file
[20:26:52] dminuoso: [spoiler]: Heh! That solution fits with my findings so far.
[20:27:16] dminuoso: (It seems like a bruteforce solution, but when the route file is being executed it needs those default_url_options present)
[20:27:19] [spoiler]: dminuoso: I think this behaviour is only present in dev since it seems to be the only mode when it doesn't load code eagerly
[20:27:29] [spoiler]: s/mode/environment/
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[20:27:46] dminuoso: [spoiler]: No, the initializer should run before routes are added.
[20:28:19] dminuoso: [spoiler]: This is a rails 5 problem right?
[20:29:12] [spoiler]: But if the routes are added on the fly, the config is missing the default_url_options, wouldn't it only detect this is missing at rutime (when you try to first reference the route, since it wasn't "eagerly" created)?
[20:29:26] [spoiler]: dminuoso: People on SO seem to mention Rails 4, too
[20:30:32] dminuoso: [spoiler]: Can you provide a link to the SO topic?
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[20:30:49] [spoiler]: dminuoso: just trying to dig one up; I am not sure if I imagined it now
[20:32:17] dminuoso: [spoiler]: Not from what I can tell.
[20:33:02] dminuoso: [spoiler]: https://github.com/rails/rails/blob/v5.0.0/actionpack/lib/action_dispatch/routing/route_set.rb#L220
[20:33:56] [spoiler]: dminuoso: ok yeah it seems to be rails5 specific, moreover there is this: http://edgeguides.rubyonrails.org/action_controller_overview.html#default-url-options
[20:35:52] [spoiler]: Frankly, I think it only works because ruby allows calling methods without `()`, so—just assuming here, too lazy to dig it up right now—it's probably called along the lines of `default_url_options[:host]` so it might be that it's a coincidence my hash shit works
[20:36:22] dminuoso: [spoiler]: No. That is just syntax.
[20:36:38] [spoiler]: Yes exactly what I meant :P
[20:37:54] [spoiler]: if you did `def a; {host: "banana"}; end` and called `a[:host]` it would essentially behave the same way as if a really is a Hash, no?
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[20:38:56] [spoiler]: It might be that it's in scope where ever it's being reference. I could completely be wrong, it's just a theory
[20:39:34] dminuoso: [spoiler]: The metaprogramming is too deep to quickly skim over it.
[20:40:02] [spoiler]: Yeah, don't bother with it, really.
[20:40:08] dminuoso: My head is spinning after the 11th module seems like its including itself.
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