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[02:51:19] sevenseacat: hmm, why might one post request to a URL work fine, but another result in a ActionController::InvalidAuthenticityToken error
[02:51:31] sevenseacat: same JS code making the request
[02:51:51] sevenseacat: both pages have csrf_meta_tags set, but they are not the same value
[02:52:08] Radar: sevenseacat: two separate pages loaded through two different requests?
[02:52:42] Radar: sevenseacat: can you load only one page and then try its POST request (e.g. don't even have the 2nd page loaded at all)?
[02:53:43] Radar: I'm guessing atm that it could be that you're loading two pages concurrently and one CSRF token is being overridden in the session by the 2nd page.
[02:54:01] sevenseacat: yeah I'm not super clear on how this CSRF thing works under the hood
[02:54:12] sevenseacat: same error though
[02:55:27] sevenseacat: ok, printing out session.inspect in the view does show a different _csrf_token than in the head of the page
[02:56:08] Radar: Yeah I am not sure how it works either.
[02:56:20] Radar: The CSRF token being submitted to the endpoint: is that the one in the session or the one on the page?\
[02:57:17] sevenseacat: no idea, its just a $.ajax({}) call, can't see where any extra headers are being added
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[02:59:46] Radar: sevenseacat: if it's a post request, often the authenticity_token parameter is what contains the CSRF value from the previous page
[03:00:00] quazimodo: for ar_instance.build_has_one_ar_relation, do we have a 'get or build', similar to 'find_or_initialize' used elsewhere_
[03:00:12] Radar: sevenseacat: 1. GET /new (CSRF Token = abc123) 2. POST /create (authenticity_token param = abc123)
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[03:00:22] sevenseacat: yeah can't see that being submitted
[03:00:25] Radar: sevenseacat: I think this is covered in Rails 4 in Action. Have you read that book by chance?
[03:00:37] sevenseacat: I have! let me refresh my memory lol
[03:01:32] Radar: sevenseacat: rails_ujs should be included and that should be sending through the authenticity token...
[03:01:38] Radar: sevenseacat: is rails_ujs in application.js?
[03:01:52] sevenseacat: lets have a squiz
[03:02:07] sevenseacat: ... if not, I'm going to look awfully stupid arent I
[03:02:26] Radar: sevenseacat: it's ok I see that fairly regularly in this channel
[03:02:49] Radar: (sorry, in a bit of a smartass mood today)
[03:03:13] Radar: quazimodo: nope. closest you'll have is find || new
[03:03:55] sevenseacat: :D radar wins again
[03:04:06] Radar: sevenseacat: it was rails_ujs, wasn't it?
[03:04:15] sevenseacat: jquery_ujs but yeah
[03:04:24] Radar: :fast_party_parrot:
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[06:24:33] nemesit: is there a gemless way to check the mime type of a file upload?
[06:24:56] nemesit: rails only seems to check the extension
[06:25:04] Radar: nemesit: why?
[06:25:20] nemesit: to verify it is a certain file type?
[06:25:50] Radar: I don't know of a gemless way to do it
[06:26:00] Radar: weird that you would be using Rails and then wanting a gemless solution. Rails is the opposite of gemless.
[06:26:44] Radar: https://stackoverflow.com/a/4601381/15245
[06:26:49] Radar: Seems like FileMagic is the way to go.
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[06:28:32] nemesit: I just wondered because it has content_type and mime type checks but they only do extension checks
[06:28:53] Radar: usually that's good enough?
[06:29:24] nemesit: Radar do you happen to know how I could have the file upload stuff append files instead of erasing the list?
[06:29:44] Radar: nemesit: I don't know what you're talking about. What list?
[06:29:59] nemesit: I got a file field with multiple true
[06:30:05] nemesit: and that works fine
[06:30:19] nemesit: but users don't seem to understand how to select multiple files on their system
[06:30:27] nemesit: so they try to upload one after the other
[06:30:33] Radar: Maybe you need to change the UI of the process.
[06:30:45] Radar: nemesit: I like this one: https://www.dropzonejs.com/
[06:30:48] nemesit: but the upload button thing erases the list
[06:31:00] Radar: nemesit: Well, that sounds like it might be code in your controller doing that.
[06:31:28] Radar: I like dropzone because it works on all devices. I use it for a photo app that I built for my daughter.
[06:31:57] sevenseacat: if all the users are 'getting it wrong', then I don't think its th users that are wrong
[06:32:02] nemesit: don't think its the controller
[06:32:08] nemesit: it happens before the post
[06:32:16] nemesit: sevenseacat yeah
[06:32:22] Radar: nemesit: Check the parameters.
[06:32:29] nemesit: its the behavior of input file
[06:32:39] sevenseacat: you're probably just doing a blanket replace of data in your controller
[06:32:58] nemesit: the controller is not involved at this stage
[06:33:07] nemesit: it's before the controller gets data
[06:33:19] sevenseacat: nothing is deleted before the controller gets data.
[06:33:19] nemesit: on the new form
[06:34:13] Radar: nemesit: Can you reproduce it in a small Rails app for us? I am having a hard time believing this issue.
[06:34:19] nemesit: the file_field stuff erases data on upload
[06:34:26] nemesit: or rather before
[06:34:34] nemesit: like you get the input field
[06:34:39] nemesit: and a button
[06:34:39] sevenseacat: thats not how HTML works
[06:35:18] nemesit: the button to select files erases the previous selection
[06:35:30] Radar: nemesit: maybe then a codepen.io exampl,e?
[06:35:34] nemesit: the upload happens at submit
[06:35:48] nemesit: and works fine
[06:36:07] Radar: [16:30:33] <Radar> Maybe you need to change the UI of the process.
[06:36:12] Radar: I'm still 100% behind this point I made earlier.
[06:36:22] Radar: https://codepen.io/ryanbigg/pen/pZmNvQ
[06:36:30] Radar: Show Dr. Radar where it hurts.
[06:37:14] sevenseacat: yeah thats not a nice UI
[06:38:05] nemesit: https://codepen.io/nemesit/pen/pZmNJQ
[06:38:08] sevenseacat: even I had to do some mucking around to figure out how to select multiple files
[06:38:22] Radar: my fav thing about dropzone is that it'll do 1 request PER UPLOAD instead of grouping them into the one request.
[06:38:41] nemesit: you cannot use that generated button to append files
[06:38:51] nemesit: it will always replace the previous file selection
[06:38:55] sevenseacat: correct. thats how HTML works.
[06:38:57] Radar: "But Radar, it's so much work to integrate dropzone into my application. Oh how I wish there was a Rails guide on that topic"
[06:39:02] Radar: https://ryanbigg.com/2017/08/rails-dropzone-js-amazon-s3-and-imgix
[06:39:06] Radar: Boom. There is one. I wrote it.
[06:39:07] nemesit: sevenseacat thats what I'd like to change
[06:39:13] sevenseacat: you can't change how HTML works.
[06:39:19] Radar: ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
[06:39:31] sevenseacat: fix the UI to not use that input.
[06:39:44] Radar: ACTION stops typing because sevenseacat is saying all the words he would say anyway
[06:39:58] nemesit: I tried, it used like 13GB ram
[06:39:58] sevenseacat: ACTION bookmarks that guide
[06:40:13] Radar: nemesit: you what
[06:40:15] nemesit: I'm no js hero
[06:40:25] nemesit: I don't know yet
[06:40:32] nemesit: it only happens on safari
[06:40:47] Radar: nemesit: Let me get it straight. The dropzone demo used 13gb of ram?
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[06:41:04] nemesit: my own "solution"
[06:41:24] Radar: Ok, great. Now that you've gone down that path... go with something that is tried and tested.
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[07:05:27] Radar: nemesit: how goes it?
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[07:15:40] Radar: 💔 nemesit
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[07:35:09] nemesit: not much done yet
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[08:09:16] Psy-Q: how do i set an explicit charset on DBs and tables with the mysql2 AR adapter? it uses utf8mb4_general_ci on local mariadb, utf8_general_ci on staging, but i want it to go with utf8mb4_unicode_ci everywhere
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[08:30:33] Psy-Q: the connection encoding alone doesn't seem to punch that through, it doesn't care about collation
[08:30:59] sevenseacat: you need to set it when creating the tables
[08:31:22] sevenseacat: it should be an option in a migration... let me see
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[08:33:11] sevenseacat: https://guides.rubyonrails.org/active_record_migrations.html#creating-a-table the options parameter might be what you want
[08:34:29] sevenseacat: I think you can change the collation but... its messy and error prone
[08:34:39] sevenseacat: *change the collation of an existing table
[08:40:42] Psy-Q: ah, i will change it "manually" on the existing stuff, no biggie. just as long as i can ensure it is created explicitly with utf8mb4_unicode_ci on all the database servers, no matter what their defaults are
[08:41:16] Psy-Q: thanks, i will look at the mysql2 adapter's specific migration options in that case
[08:44:05] Psy-Q: ah, it's just an SQL fragment? ok, gonna have to check if all the mariadbs and mysqls out there use the same syntax
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[09:05:35] dminuoso: Is there some defacto prometheus instrumentation library for rack/rails? Or do I really have to roll my own?
[09:06:10] dminuoso: Oh wait heh. Nevermind.
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[09:46:18] dminuoso: Okay so the official exporter shoves it into rack..
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[09:51:57] dminuoso: So.. is it even possible to run two rack applications at the same time?
[10:01:17] tbuehlmann: dminuoso: only via something like rack builder or router, iirc
[10:02:36] dminuoso: tbuehlmann: Do you instrument your rails apps with prometheus?
[10:04:18] dminuoso: Oh well screw it, Ill just write my own /metrics route/controller
[10:04:24] dminuoso: tis just software.
[10:04:42] dminuoso: Though.. no I *really* dont want this inside rack.
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[10:07:57] dminuoso: But I guess any security good enough to protect my administrative endpoints should be good enough to protect some /metrics endpoint
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[10:54:47] tbuehlmann: dminuoso: haven't used prometheus yet
[11:07:38] Psy-Q: hrmf. i'd have to influence the options of the CREATE DATABASE statement used by db:create as well
[11:07:54] Psy-Q: to make sure the default collation is the one i want
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[11:10:27] broman: can someone please help me with the spreadsheet gem? I'm trying to access the column by it's name.. so I can do something like row["bq"] ... can someone point me to the right direction here? thank you
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[11:36:45] dminuoso: tbuehlmann: I decided to expose the metrics inside a custom made controller, its a bit annoying still because..
[11:36:47] dminuoso: Well. Fuck devise.
[11:37:03] dminuoso: This is proper Javaism with forced "patterns".
[11:37:20] dminuoso: Authors must have taken https://github.com/EnterpriseQualityCoding/FizzBuzzEnterpriseEdition seriously
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[14:59:41] Turnikov: How do I write an rspec fixture image upload if controller expects an array of images?
[15:00:20] dminuoso: Turnikov: What do you mean
[15:00:48] bijan_: Help... God damn it I can't decide on this: Building a SaaS-App from scratch. Do you use bootstrap or not for css? Do you recommend using a 3rd party cms for landing page or do you build it in Rails?
[15:01:16] Turnikov: So I am writing a test for a controller, and I found automatically generated specs for it, the spec requested me to fill it with valid attributes, one of the attributes has to be an array of images
[15:01:24] dminuoso: bijan_: bootstrap is fine if you want to develop quickly and dont care about the app looking generic.
[15:01:42] dminuoso: Turnikov: My recommendation: delete automatically generated specs.
[15:01:53] bijan_: dminuoso: but it kind of clutters the whole markup... that's what upsets me
[15:02:07] dminuoso: bijan_: What do you mean?
[15:02:11] Turnikov: But anyway, how would you feed a test with images?
[15:02:15] bijan_: grid directions font settings etc is all represented in classes
[15:02:23] Turnikov: *with an array of images
[15:02:23] dminuoso: Turnikov: You have some static images that you carry around?
[15:02:24] bijan_: and those classes are added to the dom
[15:02:32] dminuoso: Turnikov: I really do not understand what you have a problem with
[15:02:45] dminuoso: Turnikov: The syntax is a ruby problem
[15:02:47] dminuoso: not a test problem
[15:02:49] dminuoso: or a rails probelm
[15:02:51] bijan_: so instead of havong a clean markup you get html a la bootstrap full of classes etc
[15:03:05] dminuoso: bijan_: strictly speaking css does not reside in your markup
[15:03:12] dminuoso: unless you actually inline it into some <script>
[15:03:22] dminuoso: or do you mean the classes inside your markup?
[15:03:25] bijan_: but those classes....
[15:03:31] bijan_: yeah the classes
[15:03:36] dminuoso: bijan_: why is that bad?
[15:03:48] dminuoso: bijan_: classes are for categorizing elements for styling
[15:04:14] bijan_: this is not the way it is supposed to be. in the html there should be a semantic meaningful outline and css should be used to set font attributes, positioning etc.
[15:04:32] bijan_: with bootstrap you have classes like font-centered etc.
[15:04:44] bijan_: this gives me headaches...
[15:05:05] dminuoso: bijan_: What would you prefer?
[15:05:38] bijan_: ids and classes that then setup the visuals in the css alone
[15:05:50] dminuoso: bijan_: and how do you connect css to the dom?
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[15:06:19] bijan_: via context and classes and ids
[15:06:32] bijan_: controller_action name as the body class
[15:06:54] dminuoso: bijan_: give me a moment =)
[15:06:58] bijan_: and then roll page specific where needed and global elements where appropriate
[15:07:08] bijan_: sure.. but you get what I mean?
[15:07:47] dminuoso: bijan_: class is just suggested to represent role rather than representation.
[15:08:01] dminuoso: It's only an encouragement.
[15:08:07] dminuoso: bijan_: At any rate, if you use sass you can achieve that goal.
[15:08:26] dminuoso: bijan_: you can write your classes for roles, mixin bootstrap classes
[15:08:53] bijan_: just found this: https://coderwall.com/p/wixovg/bootstrap-without-all-the-debt
[15:09:06] bijan_: looks to me like blowing up the css
[15:09:38] dminuoso: bijan_: You dont have to use bootstrap if you dont want to.
[15:10:05] bijan_: what do you use?
[15:10:11] bijan_: or how do you organize your css?
[15:10:19] dminuoso: I use bootstrap. I infest my markup with classes everywhere.
[15:11:00] dminuoso: But then again my hate for webdev runs so deep that I enjoy every minute I can do other things nowadays.
[15:11:30] bijan_: my hate level also rises from day to day
[15:11:33] dminuoso: bijan_: also like I said, its only an encouragement.
[15:11:42] dminuoso: class is not *meant* for representational roles.
[15:12:29] dminuoso: bijan_: Im kicking so much web tech atm.. we have 2 rails apps remaining, one will be ported to haskell, possibly with some purescript for frontend things.
[15:12:41] dminuoso: the remaining rails app will probably stick around because its just too big to port.
[15:13:10] dminuoso: And I started moving things into server side as much as possible so I dont have to deal with the frustrating bit of client side development.
[15:15:51] bijan_: dminuoso: you mean fullstack server-side?
[15:15:58] dminuoso: bijan_: Yes.
[15:16:04] bijan_: Fully agree.
[15:16:41] bijan_: After maintaining a huge ember app for almost 2 years (plus rails backend) I'm super happy to get rid of this freaking frontend complexity
[15:16:48] bijan_: 99% is anyways crud
[15:16:53] bijan_: in most projects
[15:17:00] bijan_: so no need for react etc.
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[15:39:08] drale2k_: how to deal with custom POST routes in rails ?
[15:39:25] drale2k_: i don't have a model backing this. Do i have to permit params and how ?
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[19:12:32] bonhoeffer: should rails 5+ have a master.key file still?
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[19:12:53] bonhoeffer: oh, i guess so
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[19:35:43] tdelam: turbolinks is conflicting with my themes js, I don't see anywhere where turbolinks is used except for <%= stylesheet_link_tag 'application', media: 'all' %> and <%= javascript_include_tag 'application' %> - safe to remove turbolinks gem?
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[20:35:47] tycoon177: tdelam: turbolinks is safe to remove, yes. it's just a helpful gem that does more seamless navigation within your application. with that comes the downside of having to write all javascript with turbolinks in mind
[20:36:34] tycoon177: because it can and will execute the same script multiple times in a browsing session, which, if you're not careful, can just keep attaching event handlers, for example
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[21:48:15] choke: Hey all, having a small routing problem with Rails5. Hoping I can get some insight. I've outlined everything at https://gist.github.com/jblac/14e1493aae25cbb1800356170677723b but if there are any other questions, please do ask.
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[22:10:56] Radar: GOOD MORNING
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