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[00:43:53] tdelam: tycoon177: ah I see, thanks for the clarification.
[00:44:52] tdelam: I'll probably leave turbolinks in, I may have found a workaround for my issue. My issue is I am using the google places API for autocomplete addresses with a map but the map doesn't load on first load, only on refresh. I've come across a few articles stating it's a common issue with turbolinks and theres a workaround.
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[05:45:51] quazimodo: is there a way to render some html inside a slim template, within a pre tag, so that readers can see the actual html?
[05:46:13] quazimodo: slim's trying to inline render the html tags as actual html tags, so they need escaping
[05:46:20] quazimodo: but... nfi if slim has a natural way to do this
[05:48:17] sevenseacat: hmm, should be able to
[05:48:32] quazimodo: it works just fine in a script tag but this stuff needs to go into a pre
[05:49:51] sevenseacat: https://www.rubydoc.info/gems/slim/frames#Verbatim_text__ ?
[05:50:31] sevenseacat: oh no, you'd need to escape the html
[05:52:41] sevenseacat: seems to be a Temple::Utils.escape_html method
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[07:08:27] za1b1tsu: After updating from 2.3.7 to 2.5.1 I'm getting Failure/Error: require File.expand_path('../../config/environment', __FILE__) There was an error while trying to load the gem 'autoprefixer-rails'.
[07:08:37] za1b1tsu: anyone experieced this issue or knows to fix it?
[07:09:16] sevenseacat: after updating what?
[07:11:26] za1b1tsu: sevenseacat: after updating ruby
[07:11:37] za1b1tsu: in the gemfile
[07:13:55] sevenseacat: is there any more error info?
[07:14:09] sevenseacat: because there's nothing to go on there
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[07:15:33] za1b1tsu: sevenseacat: https://gist.github.com/bbtdev/21f1c90c3f852c6422e80bdbe15ac2f6
[07:16:47] sevenseacat: https://github.com/cowboyd/therubyracer/issues/428 seems like you need to update therubyracer
[07:18:51] za1b1tsu: sevenseacat: thanks for the heads up. Interesting that I don't have a specific version of rubyracer in the Gemfile, shouldnt this mean it should get the latest version?
[07:19:05] sevenseacat: no, it'll get whatever's in your Gemfile.lock.
[07:19:21] havenwood: za1b1tsu: Or just install Node.js.
[07:19:47] za1b1tsu: havenwood: I have Node.ks
[07:20:04] sevenseacat: ...then why are you using therubyracer
[07:20:05] za1b1tsu: sevenseacat: so when I want to update gems, I need to delete Gemfile.lock?
[07:20:31] havenwood: za1b1tsu: bundle update therubyracer --conservative
[07:20:36] sevenseacat: just update the one gem, don't update all of them at once
[07:21:15] za1b1tsu: I understand, thank you
[07:22:20] havenwood: za1b1tsu: If you have Node.js, you shouldn't need to use therubyracer.
[07:23:23] havenwood: za1b1tsu: Is all well if you remove therubyracer from you Gemfile and run: bundle
[07:23:25] havenwood: za1b1tsu: (Presuming of course you're using source control and can revert to your Gemfile.lock.)
[07:27:02] za1b1tsu: havenwood: it's complicated, I am a remote junior, I was told to update ruby
[07:27:39] za1b1tsu: I just can't remove gems like that
[07:27:45] havenwood: za1b1tsu: Ah, then a `bundle update therubyracer --conservative` is the most conservative.
[07:28:04] havenwood: za1b1tsu: Next most conservative is just `bundle update therubyracer`.
[07:28:20] za1b1tsu: cheers mates owe you guys a couple of beers
[07:29:22] havenwood: za1b1tsu: You might suggest to them that using therubyracer to embed a V8 into Ruby isn't necessary when Node.js is available. Just using Node.js is preferable and should *just work*.
[07:30:34] za1b1tsu: In fact I owe you guys a lot, before I got this job, they told me to make a project and then I will get hired. I had 0 experience and this channel helped a lot, so much that I don't think I would have gotten hired. I posted this a few weeks ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/92l6gx/shoutout_to_the_irc_folks_that_answer_questions/
[07:32:04] havenwood: za1b1tsu: cheers! an aside but some folk don't feel included as "one of the guys'.
[07:32:10] havenwood: za1b1tsu: That's awesome!! Congrats!
[07:32:34] dionysus69: congrats za1b1tsu, same from me you girls & guys :P
[07:33:26] za1b1tsu: yeah, I need to use 'folks' to include everyone
[07:35:18] dionysus69: :D sevenseacat
[07:37:26] za1b1tsu: dminuoso helped me understand MVC and routes. I still think I have a gist of his/hers explanation
[07:37:45] za1b1tsu: that was like 9 months ago
[07:38:50] za1b1tsu: I wish IRC will live forever
[07:39:23] sevenseacat: we'll be here for a while.
[07:39:52] havenwood: holographic irc - 2020
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[07:40:02] Radar: GOOD EVENING
[07:40:40] Radar: za1b1tsu: my paypal is paypal.me/ryanbigg and I'd totally be OK if 10% of your first payslip went there ok tyvm look forward to transacting with you kind sir ok bye now
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[07:41:11] sevenseacat: for a junior that'd be about five bucks
[07:41:20] Radar: yeah but it's still 5 bucks more than if I don't ask
[07:41:22] havenwood: Radar: We need to get you a Square Cash account... ;-P
[07:41:26] za1b1tsu: I would but my junior salary from a third world country make me quite poor :(
[07:41:30] Radar: havenwood: plz sir I would be very honoured :)
[07:42:05] za1b1tsu: when I get to senior dev Radar, I will open a beer account
[07:42:44] Radar: za1b1tsu: tbh though I don't need your money. What I do need you to do is to pay it forward as much as you can. Others helped you, and so you should help others too as much as you can. How you decide to do that is up to you. Congrats on getting the job :)
[07:43:00] Radar: sniff they grow up so fast
[07:43:35] za1b1tsu: Radar, I am here everyday, I don't think I reached the level to help others though. I tried 2 times to help, but my contribution is subpar
[07:43:41] za1b1tsu: I am a terrible programmer atm
[07:44:17] za1b1tsu: but I will help, when I will levelup a little bit
[07:44:32] za1b1tsu: also 99% of the times I don't know how to help
[07:45:37] dionysus69: maybe we make a common R/RoR account so every top contributer benefits :P ? it will be up to you to decide who will be included in the "top contributer" list and who will have access to such account
[07:47:22] dionysus69: Just an idea :D
[07:48:18] drale2k_: I have a question https://stackoverflow.com/questions/51872067/post-data-not-showing-up-in-params-for-custom-route
[07:48:58] sevenseacat: drale2k_: can you show the server logs for that action
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[07:52:40] drale2k_: sevenseacat: yes, updated
[07:54:33] sevenseacat: oh hell yeah, paypal.me finally lets you hide your location, that was such a stupid feature
[07:55:26] sevenseacat: they won't let me change my name, but its a step in the right direction
[07:55:51] Radar: drale2k_: Seems like something is overriding your parameters then.
[07:55:57] Radar: drale2k_: show us how you're making that request please.
[07:56:41] sevenseacat: that was going to be my next question
[07:58:16] drale2k_: oh dam* got it. I am using Postman (an app for making requests) and i had set Content header to JSON but it was checked off for some reason on the left -.-
[07:58:18] drale2k_: Thanks guys
[07:59:17] drale2k_: i set in my API namespace in my routes "{ :format => 'json' }". Seems that means ignore anything not JSON
[08:00:16] drale2k_: i thought it would interpret anything by default as JSON if no Content header was set
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[08:12:57] dminuoso: za1b1tsu: Seeing as I was instrumental to you getting the job, it would only be fair if I get say 20% of your salary.
[08:13:08] mikecmpbll: sounds legit
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[08:14:28] za1b1tsu: dminuoso, dionysus69 ok, only if you can convince my fiancee. The wedding is comming up, I'm sure she will be open to a more budget wedding.
[08:15:43] dionysus69: as I said, common donation account :P
[08:15:51] dminuoso: za1b1tsu: I can write you a bill for wedding consulting services. Would that do the job?
[08:16:53] dminuoso: 09:29 havenwood | za1b1tsu: You might suggest to them that using therubyracer to embed a V8 into Ruby isn't necessary when Node.js is available. Just using Node.js is preferable and should *just work*.
[08:17:05] dminuoso: havenwood: What if you wanted therubyracer to run RuScript to execute your ruby program?
[08:18:07] za1b1tsu: dminuoso: will you manage the florar arrangements? Are you as good with floral arrangements as you are with web development?
[08:18:34] dminuoso: I dont know about being good at either..
[08:18:43] dminuoso: But I am good at running my mouth.
[08:19:26] za1b1tsu: well you need that, if you want to convince my fiancee about that :P
[08:20:14] dminuoso: Jeesh you make it really hard to be *financially* thankful to me.
[08:20:39] dminuoso: Next you tell me that I have to get stuff done to get paid.
[08:22:27] za1b1tsu: what can I do to make this right.. I will invite all of you the wedding. I will make rubyist table. I will be like a convention.
[08:23:03] drale2k_: when sending data to a resource which will be sent to another API and the results stored, should that initial request be a POST or PUT?
[08:24:21] drale2k_: in the end (3rd party API result ) it is creating a new record but the initial data sent is not stored
[08:26:06] za1b1tsu: drale2k_: use POST
[08:26:35] za1b1tsu: for example where I work we never used PUT
[08:26:49] za1b1tsu: it's either POST or GET
[08:26:53] dminuoso: za1b1tsu: There better be a cake. And a thick envelope under the nametag "dminuoso"
[08:27:04] za1b1tsu: dminuoso: DEAL
[08:27:07] drale2k_: za1b1tsu: by never you mean also not for updating records ?
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[08:30:58] za1b1tsu: drale2k_: what I meant was if I was creating a custom route, not a proper CRUD, I would not use PUT
[08:31:07] za1b1tsu: I would use POST
[08:31:17] drale2k_: kk, easy to remember will stick with that :P
[08:31:58] za1b1tsu: what will be 5% of your monthly income please. I need money to pay dminuoso
[08:32:30] za1b1tsu: This is like the mafia
[08:32:38] za1b1tsu: *what = that
[08:35:01] dminuoso: drale2k_: PUT differs from POST in that `PUT` can replace an existing resource.
[08:35:48] dminuoso: drale2k_: PUT is kind of like some "create or replace". That replace notion is also important, as you dont specify a diffset, but you rather specify the full representation of the new resource.
[08:35:56] drale2k_: za1b1tsu: i got some guy coming over teaching him CSS so i probably can trickle it down and let him pay his cut
[08:37:03] drale2k_: we can run this like Herbalife
[08:37:41] drale2k_: would even be a good fit for a blockchain
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[09:47:39] dionysus69: what's the ruby cool certified way to pass arguments to this function Rails.cache.read_multi, I can't pass it an array though. I have an array with the arguments, how do I unwrap array and pass those to this function?
[09:52:28] dionysus69: ok I just learnt I can reverse splat arrays, cool :P
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[10:01:43] drale2k_: I have an array of datasets coming in which i am sending of to a Google API. How should deal with that data? Should i create a GooelAPI module or should i create a model with ActiveModel and run the background job from there?
[10:02:07] drale2k_: the problem i am running it with the model is that i need an array (a collection) Can I do that with ActiveModel ?
[10:02:27] drale2k_: i have an array of locations coming in
[10:03:19] drale2k_: or should i just take the incoming data and pass it into a module i put into lib/ and let it take care of it
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[10:27:02] dionysus69: drale2k_: prostgres has array data type natively and you can create it with
[10:27:33] dionysus69: t.text "column_name", default: [], array: true
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[11:25:25] drale2k_: any issues with calling a Background Job from a controller and making a HTTP request to an external API within the job ?
[11:25:44] drale2k_: or should jobs only be called from Models
[11:37:57] tbuehlmann: if it doesn't clutter up the controller too much, that's fine. I probably wouldn't do it in the model as some kind of callback
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[12:09:35] dionysus69: Houston, I have a problem, my rails ruby process get's a memory leak but I have no idea where from, when I visit pages, on every page 50mb gets added and it hits 1gb from 300mb pretty quickly, any ideas on what maybe horribly wrong?
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[13:06:53] tbuehlmann: recommending to buy more ram isn't that helpful, right?
[13:08:02] dminuoso: tbuehlmann: Oh man I actually wanted to write that, but then decided that they are not worthy of my humor.
[13:08:32] dminuoso: tbuehlmann: but yeah installing ram is just a PITA.
[13:08:38] dminuoso: you could maybe use EC2 so the ram is fully elastic!
[13:08:50] dminuoso: I hear it scales up to 4TiB of memory
[13:11:27] dionysus69: tbuehlmann, dminuoso: I have a serious problem lol, I am not talking regular ram usage
[13:11:44] dionysus69: no matter which page I go to at least 50mb gets added to ruby process
[13:11:46] dminuoso: dionysus69: With EC2 and 4TiB RAM your server will survive for a long time.
[13:12:06] dionysus69: and I havent changed anything application wide to cause this so I have no idea what's going on
[13:13:50] dionysus69: lol I dont even know what happens in staging and production, I am experiencing this on my laptop and it started recently, I literally have no idea what I did to cause such a memory bloat
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[13:37:15] dionysus69: so it hit 1.1 gb and stopped growing when I exhausted visiting all pages
[13:37:39] dminuoso: dionysus69: That does not sound like a memory leak.
[13:37:40] dionysus69: did I just not notice this before, was it always going this high? maybe some caching rules changed?
[13:38:20] dionysus69: 1.1gb per worker, doesn't it sound like a lot ? :P especially when I don't load much data in controllers
[13:41:37] Psy-Q: is there something more lightweight than Postman for playing with REST interfaces?
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[13:42:32] Psy-Q: i've tried RESTclient in Firefox but recent versions seem to have been broken (they claim null responses when they aren't there, or claim the response is binary when it isn't)
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[13:49:33] dionysus69: on staging, there are 4 puma workers each taking 6% of 3.8 gb ram which is much lower 1.2 gb ram is about 30% compared to dev env
[13:51:26] tbuehlmann: don't compare development and staging unless they are identical wrt setup
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[13:52:45] dionysus69: ok going to run staging env with 4 workers on local machine
[13:53:07] dionysus69: cause 4 workers in dev env, each became 800mb and I feel like had potential to grow
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[14:01:25] jeromelanteri: hi, when i try to add a index.coffee to my index article, at the first load of the template articles (route is articles_controlleur index action) show me (function()$(... my coffee code in javascript with render content in raw...
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[14:01:58] jeromelanteri: i'm very surprise, i searched and didn't find any thing wrong, could you help me ?
[14:02:37] jeromelanteri: with action create, i have no problem with coffee script create.coffee file (same kind of call)
[14:03:02] jeromelanteri: is there something special with index action to know (a kind of magic convention) ?
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[14:12:54] dionysus69: so here's the output of GC.stat http://paste.debian.net/1038152/ anyone notice any anomalies ?
[14:14:39] dionysus69: at the time of printing those GC stats, the rails process takes 1.4gb
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[14:26:07] netscape101: What is the modern alternative to resque?
[14:27:15] netscape101: Someone asked me to look into this thing to monitor resque: http://stevelorek.com/resque-worker-management-with-god.html from a quick google on rescue it seems like people havn't been talking on the internet about resque since 2012
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[14:35:08] jeromelanteri: and with index.coffee.erb, that is nbetter for the template view (strange), but get an ajax error from rails-ujs
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[14:38:27] dionysus69: I have an interesting lead
[14:38:45] dionysus69: when I disabled javascript include tag in the head of app, the memory bloat stopped
[14:39:07] dionysus69: but it doesn't make sense, if theres a memory leak in javascript it should be in the browser not the server side
[14:39:27] dionysus69: that only means that there's a bug with asset pipeline? what else it may mean?
[14:40:30] jeromelanteri: well... index.coffee.erb is not recognize (that is why rails-ujs show an error)... why does index.coffee.erb is not recognize and why when i make index.coffee the template view is fucked ? (and that doesn't happen with create.coffee... it looks like something is wrong or bugged
[14:42:26] jeromelanteri: dionysus69, i don't know but it looks like devs are going far from rails little by little and there is no one for help in 195 people - xx bots - xx connected but not present = number of users who has problem with rails.
[14:44:05] dionysus69: jeromelanteri: I don't know if people here are devs or not, but lots of helpful people are. from my experience, if you aren't getting an answer it either means no one is free atm to look at the irc, or you are asking a stupid question :D
[14:44:45] sevenseacat: we're all volunteers here, I don't see you helping people here jeromelanteri
[14:45:25] jeromelanteri: dionysus69, i think yes, when you use rails framework, it is for development sessions... so we are all devs here. But yes, sure no one is free and i just says that the community is little, more and more little.
[14:46:37] dionysus69: jeromelanteri: I thought you meant core devs, obviously everyone here is dev :P I wouldn't be so pessimistic, I just recruited 2 people who learn rails in past 6 months :D
[14:46:44] dionysus69: anyways, I am off
[14:48:03] jeromelanteri: i cross my fingers for have a reason to become more optimist soon...
[14:49:29] jeromelanteri: here is my publlic little web site in construction: https://bitbucket.org/jerome___/aquaworks/src/master/
[14:50:49] jeromelanteri: you will see in app/views/articles/ file _index.coffee. If you mv _index.coffee index.coffee then you will see what's happen... it should not happen i think (or i do something wrong... but what ?)
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[14:55:11] jeromelanteri: last commit show that index.coffee.erb is not read by rails. And same, if you remove .erb, template view concernend will break gently.
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[15:24:55] dminuoso: jeromelanteri: There are some people that frequently use this channel to avoid learning Ruby or programming in general themselves.
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[15:25:42] dminuoso: jeromelanteri: That person is such an example, and I strongly refuse to assist their behavior.
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[22:48:50] hahuang65: anyone good with geneaological terms?
[22:49:07] hahuang65: I'm looking for the term that represents nodes that are of the same generation as a subject node.
[22:49:22] hahuang65: I know ancestors are anything above the subject node, and descendants are anything below the subject node
[22:49:29] hahuang65: looking for the term to represent siblings and cousins
[22:57:19] Inside: what's wrong with siblings?
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[22:59:18] hahuang65: it doesn't include cousins
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