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[01:16:24] ariedler: taxes done >_>
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[12:10:23] hypercore: lol congratulations
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[13:58:54] ariedler: hypercore: was that because I finished my taxes lol
[14:02:05] Zarathu: april 14th? that's bad ;x
[14:02:44] Zarathu: should aim for feb 1
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[14:14:37] tristanm_: pssh, I did mine like a year ago
[14:18:00] nox: ACTION is still amazed people do their taxes on their own in 2019.
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[14:23:56] Zarathu: nox: quickbooks lobbyists need to get paid somehow
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[14:26:03] nox: Zarathu: Doesn't the IRS have or used to have an automatic tax filing service?
[14:26:17] ariedler: ACTION is canadian
[14:27:10] Zarathu: nox: not that i can remember. they authorize a few large private companies to do that, and citizens pay the authorized enterprises
[14:27:11] nox: ariedler: I thought that tax filing was a hurdle only in the good old USA.
[14:27:23] Zarathu: ^ i was about to say the same thing
[14:27:32] Zarathu: nox: you live in .fr?
[14:27:34] nox: My tax filing as a French citizen is basically "click on next until it says you are done with tax filing".
[14:27:41] nox: Zarathu: Yes, Parisian.
[14:28:00] Zarathu: nice, i was just there
[14:28:15] Zarathu: seemed like the food has changed over the past 10 years
[14:28:20] ariedler: nox: for canadians it is basically filling in a bunch of forms that you get from your employer + banks; and then declaring any supplemental income/deductions/tax incentives.
[14:28:21] nox: Clicking on next is a hurdle in itself though, twice I forgot to file them on time and had to send an email to the tax services to get the penalties cancelled (they always cancelled them).
[14:28:58] nox: ariedler: Same here but all the forms are pre-filled, so you just tell the tax services what they don't know yet (e.g. giving a pension to your parents or stuff like that).
[14:29:06] nox: Zarathu: What do you mean about the food?
[14:29:21] Zarathu: they're usually good about canceling penalties here too. i was late once like 10 years ago, my accountant sent them a letter basically saying "please, it's almost christmas" and it worked
[14:29:38] ariedler: nox: canada is almost there, since they have 'auto-fill' for your forms, but they still miss stuff
[14:30:16] Zarathu: well, i tried the snails at 3 different restaurants in different parts of the city, and they were all exactly the same
[14:30:24] Zarathu: could have just been the particular places
[14:30:42] Zarathu: (waiters still as pissy as expected)
[14:30:50] nox: Zarathu: Most probably their stock came from Métro, https://www.metro.fr
[14:31:09] Zarathu: ah! could be
[14:31:11] nox: that was already a thing 10 years ago, you were just luckier back then I think. :)
[14:31:38] nox: Zarathu: Feel free to ping me next time you are around.
[14:31:50] Zarathu: also—this could totally just be me having lived in texas my whole life, but
[14:31:59] nox: The thought of eating escargots is disgusting to me though.
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[14:32:11] Zarathu: seemed like the quality of the croissants went down? like they were incredible a decade ago
[14:32:35] nox: Yeah you were unlucky. There are good bakeries all around but a lot of them are shit, yeah.
[14:32:49] Zarathu: ah ok, just a bad coincidence
[14:33:03] nox: It's a side effect of the whole "startup nation" crap, people don't want to spend a lot of time eating, and stuff like that, so the food quality is decreasing in many parts.
[14:33:22] nox: I try to keep things balance by taking lunch breaks that are a minimum of two hours.
[14:33:27] nox: balanced*
[14:36:38] Zarathu: ariedler: do you speak french too?
[14:37:45] nox: Working for a US company made me realise there are a lot of people out there who can speak French, way more than I thought (not talking about Québec and areas where it's expected to speak French, just people learning the language in school).
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[14:39:53] Zarathu: well in a lot of places you're expected to take a foreign language in school
[14:40:38] Zarathu: i went to a school for french immigrants here, we had 45 minutes of english a day. everything else was in french
[14:43:34] Zarathu: actually on topic: it would be really great to be able to reuse names for Ecto.Multi calls
[14:43:41] Zarathu: for when you need to make multiple passes at a specific object
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[14:51:12] Zarathu: Multi.new() |> Multi.insert(:orders_products, ...) |> Multi.insert(:order, ...) |> Multi.update(:order, &apply_coupon/3) (etc)
[14:51:36] Zarathu: |> Multi.update(:order, &apply_taxes/3)
[14:51:49] Zarathu: (or whatever)
[14:52:01] fmcgeough: right… it wants to uniquely identify each op in case of error
[14:52:55] fmcgeough: could you use a tuple for the name? I’ve never tried that actually….
[14:53:03] fmcgeough: it takes “any"
[14:53:34] ariedler: Zarathu: non
[14:53:45] Zarathu: oh shit :o
[14:53:53] Zarathu: fmcgeough: awesome! a tuple would be great
[14:54:23] fmcgeough: :-) yeah. that’s what I’d try if I was in your shoes. I would think it’d work fine and the error would be more helpful if it occurs
[14:54:39] ariedler: Zarathu: seulement ce que j'ai appris à l'école
[14:54:50] Zarathu: reading the source... looks like anything that can be put into a MapSet
[14:54:55] Zarathu: sweet, thanks!
[14:54:59] Zarathu: ariedler: wored
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[18:18:48] davic: josevalim, hi, do you mind me asking if it a possibility in the future to add gitlab.com as one of the supported opts in scm?
[18:19:34] davic: or is there a way to add it as a opts in a config somewhere for Elixir to catch it?
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[18:22:13] Nicd-: do you mean in deps list in mix.exs?
[18:23:19] Nicd-: ah Mix.SCM apparently
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[18:29:19] davic: Nicd-, doesnt mix.exs and mix archive use scm?
[18:29:46] Nicd-: it does but I don't know what your exact problem is. you can use gitlab as dependency already I think
[18:31:18] davic: Nicd-, it is possible with git: <url>
[18:31:42] davic: but I meant as a possiblity to just make it a bit prettier as gitlab.com is 2nd biggest after github currently
[18:32:18] davic: maybe there is some config in mix.exs I can use for this?
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[18:57:32] Zarathu: davic: why not just use :git? it's fine
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[20:45:26] lpil: This has come up before davic and the decision was to use `git:`
[20:45:45] lpil: Github only has a shorthand because Elixir itself is hosted there and there are no plans to add more
[20:47:37] davic: lpil, alright
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[22:32:57] k1nd0f: Hi. Damn I can't wait the release of phoenix 1.4 handbook
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[22:46:47] ariedler: k1nd0f: haha, why is that
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