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[21:33:09] jahbrewski: flappynerd: not a fan of Heroku? The platform has greatly improved the past year or so
[21:33:59] jahbrewski: flappynerd: if my clients are paying 30-40k for an app a couple hundred bucks per month isn't breaking their banks :)
[21:35:54] jahbrewski: flappynerd: Demerzel fair enough. I like the sane defaults Heroku provies though. Feals very rails-esque
[21:36:49] jahbrewski: Demerzel: certainly. And in fact, we use a combination of aws/heroku/etc.
[21:37:34] jahbrewski: For a basic rails site though, you really can't beat heroku for ease of setup. And time=money
[21:38:21] jahbrewski: That's something I find developers forget. "But why would I pay for that when I could do X" ...because X takes 10x as long..
[21:39:21] jahbrewski: bronson: curious why you didn't like it?
[21:39:42] jahbrewski: bronson: use s3?
[21:41:46] jahbrewski: bronson: I've got plently of projects more complex than a scaffold demo on Heroku :)
[21:42:06] jahbrewski: bronson: But again, Heroku is just a tool. If it doesn't help you, drop it
[21:42:34] jahbrewski: One of the reasons *I* use it is because these guys use it: thoughtbot.com
[21:42:56] jahbrewski: and the folks at thoughtbot know a hell of a lot more than I do
[21:43:45] jahbrewski: bronson: Have you checked out their playbook? http://playbook.thoughtbot.com/
[21:44:23] jahbrewski: lots of great stuff in there
[21:49:34] jahbrewski: bronson: as soon as Heroku becomes a hindrance and not a time saver, drop it
[21:50:14] jahbrewski: which is a good rule of thumb to live by as a developer. At a certain point Rails itself becomes more of a hindrance than a helper..
[21:52:22] jahbrewski: nbarnes: Depends on what about it is holding you back
[21:53:35] jahbrewski: nbarnes: I think bronson is joking, right?
[21:54:01] jahbrewski: nbarnes: Oh yeah. I'm a huge fan of tried and true.
[21:56:30] jahbrewski: rubyonrails645: I don't have much experience with beanstalk.. I tried it a while back and the interface just seemed rough/bad
[21:57:58] jahbrewski: rubyonrails645: Yeah. It just didn't feel like it was saving me any time.
[21:58:37] jahbrewski: rubyonrails645: Heh. Heroku for most of my rails apps.
[21:58:57] jahbrewski: rubyonrails645: I use amazon too though.
[21:59:06] jahbrewski: rubyonrails645: Cloudfront is great.
[21:59:40] jahbrewski: rubyonrails645: What's your use case? What are you currently using?
[22:02:00] jahbrewski: rubyonrails645: well, you have to factor in the cost of switching to a new platform. and the time.
[22:02:43] jahbrewski: rubyonrails645: Take a look at your current hosting expenses, calculate your estimated savings, minus the cost of the switch, and decide if it makes sense
[22:03:45] jahbrewski: rubyonrails645: yes.
[22:04:27] jahbrewski: rubyonrails645: And they make it extremely easy. Literally dragging a slider. Granted you'll want to invest some time into performance enhancements once you start scaling.
[22:05:20] jahbrewski: rubyonrails645: Don't prematurely optimize though. Don't worry about scaling until you have to. Scaling is a great problem to have.
[22:05:52] jahbrewski: rhizome: same thing right? :)
[22:06:48] jahbrewski: rubyonrails645: Sure thing. Those are my thoughts. Certainly not applicable for everyone. I run a development shop, so time is literally money for us.
[22:07:46] jahbrewski: rubyonrails645: That's what we do.
[22:08:01] jahbrewski: rubyonrails645: Paperclip has built in support for s3
[22:08:41] jahbrewski: YourManCJ: https://www.railstutorial.org/book
[22:08:55] jahbrewski: +1 for reading the guides and just using it though
[22:09:33] jahbrewski: YourManCJ: Also depends on how you learn best. There are videos everywhere if that's your thing. Books. Blog posts. Etc.
[22:10:42] jahbrewski: YourManCJ: Working organically through your own project is probably the best way, once you get some of the fundamentals down.
[22:11:24] jahbrewski: YourManCJ: I posted an ad on Craitslist that I was a rails dev (hadn't built an app in my life), took on a client project, and learned on the job
[22:11:50] jahbrewski: YourManCJ: Yeah.. don't leave passwords and security stuff on there :)
[22:12:09] jahbrewski: YourManCJ: use ENV vars
[22:12:49] jahbrewski: rubyonrails645: Ah, probably. Yes.
[22:13:31] jahbrewski: rubyonrails645: I've got a few mobile apps that upload to my server first and then s3
[22:14:04] jahbrewski: YourManCJ: you can put anything in .gitignore ...what's your question?
[22:16:01] jahbrewski: YourManCJ: Yeah, ENV vars work well. I've used Figaro before for managing config vars: https://github.com/laserlemon/figaro
[22:17:53] jahbrewski: YourManCJ: Yeah.. don't do that.
[22:18:18] jahbrewski: YourManCJ: Do you have a firm understanding of git?
[22:19:03] jahbrewski: YourManCJ: Truly understanding git is a valuable investment in yourself as a developer
[22:19:59] jahbrewski: jahbrewski: My server essentially acted as a proxy. It handled the upload to s3.
[22:20:19] jahbrewski: ha, meant to address that to rubyonrails645
[22:22:12] jahbrewski: bpr_admin: you've got a rails app with no database?
[22:22:50] jahbrewski: rubyonrails645: Sounds like a pretty standard stack.
[22:24:06] jahbrewski: bpr_admin: I find it hard to believe the app has no database.. no real reason to use Rails if that's the case
[22:24:33] jahbrewski: bpr_admin: the
[22:25:37] jahbrewski: bpr_admin: Is there anything in the app/models directory?
[22:26:36] jahbrewski: bpr_admin: If so, open one up and see if you see something like "<ActiveRecord::Base" at the top
[22:27:30] jahbrewski: bpr_admin: That's fine. But you've got your answser. You need to find out what happened to your config/database.yml file
[22:27:47] jahbrewski: bpr_admin: Or create a new one
[22:33:59] jahbrewski: bpr_admin: Nope, not really. Never had an app without that file.
[22:34:43] jahbrewski: bpr_admin: Ah. I think I see.
[22:35:36] jahbrewski: Looks like you can either use a config/database.yml file to configure your database, or connect to the database via an environment variable (ENV['DATABASE_URL'])
[22:35:53] jahbrewski: bpr_admin: Your app is probably set up to use the ENV variable
[22:36:37] jahbrewski: bpr_admin: http://edgeguides.rubyonrails.org/configuring.html#configuring-a-database
[22:37:20] jahbrewski: bpr_admin: ^^^ read through that guide
[22:49:07] jahbrewski: bpr_admin: rename it?
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