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2016-07-28

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[04:16:08] pontiki: and brandon's tour of languages continues :D
[04:16:51] pontiki: on a separate note: i have booked a place in the SF South Bay for the month of September!
[04:18:21] pontiki: with my new gig, i think i'll be in Ruby/Rails land for quite a bit longer :/
[04:19:22] pontiki: unless i can carve out some serious time, it's just going to be Ruby and JS, with bash/perl kept in the back pocket
[04:24:28] pontiki: i shouldn't complain, i have it extremely good
[04:24:54] pontiki: there's people i know would love to do nothing but work in rails all the time
[04:25:26] pontiki: i've met folks who want to do nothing but work in React too
[04:51:16] pontiki: how do you know it's just not getting logged twice?
[04:52:15] pontiki: if db actions were happening twice, there'd likely be slightly different datestamps
[04:54:55] pontiki: i've seen it before but i can't quite recall the circumstances
[04:55:03] pontiki: i don't use heroku so it wasn't there
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2016-07-27

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2016-07-25

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[04:25:04] pontiki: i think i'm glad i'm not trying to understand this conversation
[05:09:44] pontiki: no, because migrations are about changing the database schema, not use operations
[05:14:38] pontiki: the scaffold generator is good for a very very basic CRUD app for learning purposes. most everyone abandanes it soon after
[05:16:01] pontiki: as soon as you step out of the very very basic CRUD app, which you have in this case (good for you!) you need to start doing more on your own
[05:16:48] pontiki: you might look at the controller generator in these cases, too
[05:39:52] pontiki: comm64x: helpa is a bot. you should thank sevenseacat
[05:42:35] pontiki: http://railstutorial.com
[05:43:11] pontiki: http://theodinproject.com
[06:35:30] pontiki: not much, chicka!
[06:55:09] pontiki: hey, i only read fantasy books, i don't go around swinging swords at dragons
[07:18:13] pontiki: Quit: "Poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese." -- G.K.Chesterson

2016-07-23

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[04:15:26] pontiki: https://gist.github.com/ArpiaPsuv/e8eb18924b27cae4c584305a8d0592c3#file-user-rb-L3 should be "include"
[04:33:33] pontiki: maybe you need to require the concern... i don't remember if you do
[04:36:42] pontiki: you have not anywhere in there required concern_test.rb that i can see...
[04:37:15] pontiki: and if you name your file and module inconsistently then you will definitely need to include it
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2016-07-17

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[11:21:44] pontiki: fork the gem and fix it
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2016-07-16

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2016-07-15

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[18:01:42] pontiki: rails scaffolding is only a point of departure; it's not that useful in real projects
[18:02:11] pontiki: how many RoR developers have you seen, alfiemax ?
[18:03:24] pontiki: that's not something even approaching answerable in irc
[18:04:41] pontiki: considering the many types and layers of security, where they apply, including selection of hosting vendors, promotion procedures, internal security needs, authorization, authentications
[18:04:49] pontiki: snowyrooftops: exactly
[18:05:24] pontiki: snowyrooftops: either word works :)
[18:07:36] pontiki: SEND ME UR SECURS
[18:08:36] pontiki: why would you drop any skills?
[18:08:49] pontiki: asp.net especially is in high demads
[18:09:56] pontiki: that seems rather reckless
[18:11:08] pontiki: fox_mulder_cp: i have no idea what you meant by that :(
[18:11:40] pontiki: fox_mulder_cp: i'm talking about your asp.net repsonse
[18:19:13] pontiki: rails is the back end
[18:19:57] pontiki: i wouldn't put someone who doesn't understand how rails works in charge of deployment *or* unit testing
[18:20:25] pontiki: feature testing, probably
[18:20:49] pontiki: the sorts of tests you'd use cucubmer/capybara for
[18:22:31] pontiki: i mean, why bother with them at all?
[18:22:44] pontiki: ALL THE LANGUAGES
[18:23:16] pontiki: fox_mulder_cp: there are a few i will not admit to :D
[18:25:05] pontiki: what difference does it make how serious or great they are if they cannot contribute to your needs, nor you to theirs?
[18:25:39] pontiki: already there
[18:26:36] pontiki: dionysus69: why do you think you can do those things independent of your application framework and architecture?
[18:29:16] pontiki: Quit: "Poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese." -- G.K.Chesterson

2016-07-14

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[15:33:48] pontiki: persistent
[15:39:23] pontiki: read the docuententation on it and try it out a few times
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2016-07-13

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[13:00:41] pontiki: can you use ||= in the .env file?
[13:01:45] pontiki: never mind
[18:53:38] pontiki: oh, they've left
[19:02:18] pontiki: ckeditor, maybe?
[19:02:59] pontiki: i can't really say it's all that -- i hate them :) it's just the one i've seen in most projects i've been on
[19:03:31] pontiki: https://github.com/galetahub/rails-ckeditor
[19:05:11] pontiki: SteenJobs: they appear to do the same thing
[19:05:39] pontiki: idk, i'm not making a recommendation in either case
[19:05:50] pontiki: there's like 8 more
[19:10:25] pontiki: SteenJobs: here we go: https://www.ruby-toolbox.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=ckeditor
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2016-07-12

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[03:26:58] pontiki: full day of work, full evening of rails meetup. i'm tired :)
[03:34:01] pontiki: maybe you should become a life coach
[03:34:34] pontiki: buff up your gems!
[03:34:55] pontiki: no, that's what you tell us
[03:35:15] pontiki: reminds of an unbelievable yet true management story
[03:36:18] pontiki: cto has all us dev-types in a meeting. he's explaining what the 3 weeks of each spring cycle are for.
[03:36:51] pontiki: he gets to the 3rd week, code freeze. "This is when we take this ball we're giving the founders and are making it all shiny"
[03:37:02] pontiki: yes, he said we're polishing the founders' ball
[03:38:46] pontiki: i don't think i could be so funny by accident
[03:38:52] pontiki: and so stupid on purpose
[03:39:39] pontiki: it took practically all i had not to burst out laughing in the meeting
[03:41:20] pontiki: it wasn't too long after i left anyway
[03:44:59] pontiki: i don't even play pokego
[03:47:43] pontiki: you seemed concerned at first, and then not caring. it's confusing
[03:49:19] pontiki: instance vars are not global vars
[03:50:03] pontiki: s/global/instance/
[03:50:40] pontiki: Dimik--: i'm a bit unclear about your use of the term "cli", however
[03:50:45] pontiki: command line interface?
[03:51:22] pontiki: i might, jeromelanteri, but i don't recognize those terms specifically
[03:52:01] pontiki: nighty-nite :)_
[03:57:03] pontiki: i can't even parse what you're asking
[03:59:17] pontiki: you search them, sort them, replace them with other DOM nodes, etc
[03:59:37] pontiki: if you don't know what to do with them, why did you think you should use them?
[03:59:41] pontiki: i'm just confused
[04:00:14] pontiki: http://api.jquery.com/category/manipulation/
[04:00:30] pontiki: that talks about all the methods for DOM manipulation in jQuery
[04:04:32] pontiki: i can't even follow you
[04:05:13] pontiki: just write a spa and use rails as an api only
[04:05:46] pontiki: single page app
[04:05:50] pontiki: in javascript
[04:06:16] pontiki: i'm so confused right now
[04:06:42] pontiki: look, jeromelanteri, rails cannot do everything everyone wants it to
[04:06:54] pontiki: stop trashing it and flailing yourself
[04:07:41] pontiki: i am having so much trouble parsing out what they're trying to find out
[04:08:31] pontiki: great. find them and ask them again.
[04:08:55] pontiki: use a dictionary
[04:09:00] pontiki: i'm tired of this
[04:10:02] pontiki: very much a judgement
[04:12:00] pontiki: i think i'll just stare at this awhile https://500px.com/photo/120706989/bromo-mountain-by-%C4%B0lhan-eroglu?utm_source=momentum
[04:14:38] pontiki: crikey, i want a drink
[04:15:14] pontiki: the time isn't the problem. no ice is the problem :(
[04:16:39] pontiki: sure glad i have +g on
[04:19:14] pontiki: "render-anywhere" ??? really?
[04:22:05] pontiki: yeah, i'm reading it now on the rails blog
[04:40:32] pontiki: https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13151431_988639384523796_3115684101943614252_n.jpg?oh=ae460a44025cdd345aee9cb9c0b6ccb2&oe=57F3516F
[04:40:44] pontiki: except i'm not one of the nicest people in the world
[04:55:38] pontiki: greghogg_: what goes into order items?
[04:56:06] pontiki: more like, fun.
[04:57:13] pontiki: so you could look if a card is already in there, then?
[04:58:03] pontiki: don't use a validation to perform a calculation
[05:02:53] pontiki: good news, radar
[05:03:46] pontiki: good, yes, congrats
[05:04:09] pontiki: what are the duties?
[05:12:13] pontiki: good call, radar
[05:22:11] pontiki: i guess i should start a Rails 5 series for our beginner's meetup...
[05:22:24] pontiki: give me a good excuse to learn it
[05:48:35] pontiki: Guest34255: assuming Micropost is a Rails ActiveRecord class, they're the database record attributes
[06:21:45] pontiki: ACTION screams
[06:28:13] pontiki: does it ever make sense to look at what is actually causing your background jobs to bottleneck??
[06:34:09] pontiki: no, i'm trying not to say anything for being completely misunderstood
[06:37:05] pontiki: run, jeyraof
[06:52:29] pontiki: stupid question: is the database warmed up?
[06:53:44] pontiki: might not be warmed up then
[06:55:12] pontiki: the connection to the dbsm takes a bit to get warmed up, once it's running it's a lot faster
[06:55:23] pontiki: new connection is "cold"
[06:55:54] pontiki: webrick is using the same connection over and over since it's a single thread in a single process
[06:57:22] pontiki: the application sits atop the web server; sitting atop webrick it's only got to warm up once
[06:57:51] pontiki: sitting atop puma, it could need to warm up each time a thread is launched, which might happen on each request
[06:58:20] pontiki: i know that happens with unicorn workers, anyway
[06:58:35] pontiki: just do several tests in the same thread and see if it drops
[06:58:58] pontiki: i could very well be talking bullshit, too
[06:59:23] pontiki: it's what i see when i look at such things
[07:00:15] pontiki: then again, again, i have no idea how you're making these measurements either
[07:11:22] pontiki: Quit: "Poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese." -- G.K.Chesterson

2016-07-11

[02:32:13] pontiki: you installed that version with apt-get?
[02:32:22] pontiki: did you get it from brightbox?
[02:35:18] pontiki: that's not even good in php
[02:36:22] pontiki: i'd be surprised if you can get that new a version from deb or ubuntu ppa
[02:36:51] pontiki: al2o3-cr: the only place i know to get them that current is brightbox
[02:58:02] pontiki: Dimik--: i tried it, once
[03:24:42] pontiki: idk, i ended up using watir-webdriver instead; it was a lot easier to get scraping done
[04:00:28] pontiki: they're letters to other people
[04:00:35] pontiki: (and your future self)
[04:00:46] pontiki: you can be as formal or informal as that requires, really
[04:01:22] pontiki: also, sometimes the messages are really long, and that tends to ask for more formal grammar, etc
[04:01:46] pontiki: i also have tons of yolo commit messages :)
[05:05:25] pontiki: or assume that A is just a special case of B and deal with nil attributes accordingly
[05:07:35] pontiki: is there any difference between A and B besides the extra fields?
[05:28:03] pontiki: Quit: "Poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese." -- G.K.Chesterson