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[08:40:13] Ox0dea: atmosx: Can I have hancock?
[08:41:21] atmosx: Ox0dea: I've no idea what you're talking about.
[08:41:37] Ox0dea: atmosx: Not yours, then? https://rubygems.org/gems/hancock
[08:42:10] atmosx: no that's me https://rubygems.org/profiles/atmosx
[08:42:24] Ox0dea: Derp. Sorry to bother.
[08:42:32] atmosx: Ox0dea: no worries
[08:58:27] adaedra: No internet at home, day 3: hope begins to lower.
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[09:48:31] flughafen: hey adaedra apeiros Ox0dea
[09:48:43] Ox0dea: Morning, flughafen.
[09:49:17] adaedra: Hallo flughafen
[09:49:32] flughafen: morning, hallo
[09:49:45] adaedra: Or, put differently
[09:49:53] adaedra: Bonjour, a??roport
[09:50:54] flughafen: yes, that, ca va
[09:51:01] flughafen: adaedra: do you speak french?
[09:51:46] flughafen: adaedra: fluently/
[09:52:16] adaedra: flughafen: I'm french.
[09:52:29] flughafen: adaedra: fluently?
[09:52:38] flughafen: i just read cyrano de bergerac,
[09:53:42] adaedra: I heard good things.
[09:53:53] adaedra: But never read it myself.
[09:54:08] flughafen: I thought it was a big french thing, that all the kids have read it.
[09:54:50] flughafen: adaedra: i highly recommend it. now i'm tempted to learn some french so i can read it in french
[09:54:53] flughafen: it's a day read.
[09:55:10] adaedra: I'm not sure it's the easiest book to read in a foreign language.
[09:58:01] adaedra: flughafen: why not begin by the most known part? http://dardel.info/Textes/Cyrano.html
[09:58:06] Ox0dea: adaedra: Have you read any George Bataille?
[09:58:07] flughafen: https://www.lawlessfrench.com/reading/cyrano-de-bergerac/
[09:58:54] adaedra: I don't think I have, Ox0dea.
[09:59:21] adaedra: I'm not ready a good reader, I've mostly stopped at what was required to read during my school years.
[09:59:49] Ox0dea: I don't see why Story of the Eye shouldn't be standard curriculum. :P
[10:00:56] adaedra: Required books for graduation examination are different every year. For other books, it's the choice of the teacher (even if I think there is a list of suggested reading by the government)
[10:01:30] Ox0dea: I like the part where that has any chance of being a maybe.
[10:01:36] flughafen: adaedra: i'm not a super strong reader either, but i found it easy and enjoyable.
[10:04:04] adaedra: Ox0dea: fwiw, my final examination was done on Candide.
[10:04:35] Ox0dea: That makes good sense.
[10:04:49] flughafen: plus it's short , so it's easy to keep your attention
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[10:21:10] Ox0dea: adaedra: I bet you quite like Voltaire.
[10:23:08] Ox0dea: I love that Wikipedia has Voltaire in the list of Voltaire's critics.
[10:23:28] Ox0dea: Er, never mind.
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[11:01:17] apeiros: hi flughafen
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[15:51:08] diegoviola: I've been banned from #rubyonrails for 3 months now, I also can't talk in #ruby-banned because I'm banned there too, what is with this op abuse?
[15:51:42] diegoviola: MINASWAN is so bs
[15:54:30] havenwood: diegoviola: good morn
[15:54:44] havenwood: diegoviola: Maybe DHHIMASWAM
[15:55:23] adaedra: "Op abuse"
[15:55:38] diegoviola: yes, this is mean and abusive
[15:55:49] havenwood: diegoviola: I thought our Rails ban was up tomorrow?
[15:55:49] diegoviola: I never been banned from any place for 3 months
[15:56:11] havenwood: diegoviola: Rails != Ruby
[15:56:15] diegoviola: but Radar banned me from #rubyonrails for 3 months... and for being offtopic... this is just fucking absurd
[15:56:26] havenwood: diegoviola: Another three months?
[15:56:32] diegoviola: clearly the rules only apply to the less privileged from that community
[15:56:39] diegoviola: and not to him and his friends
[15:56:45] adaedra: Aaah, it's the community fault now.
[15:57:19] diegoviola: he said he talked to the ops and they all agreed to ban me
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[15:57:32] adaedra: Again, #ruby != #RubyOnRails.
[15:57:34] havenwood: diegoviola: The #ruby and #rubyonrails ops aren't the same.
[15:57:52] havenwood: diegoviola: There isn't much overlap actually.
[16:00:27] havenwood: diegoviola: I haven't read the log of what happened in #rubyonrails. Think you were disrupting the signal versus noise? Or what happened?
[16:00:55] diegoviola: all anger and childish things aside, I already agreed in #ruby-banned not to be offtopic anymore, so I don't know why I'm getting that banned for
[16:01:44] diegoviola: havenwood: I was complained about a client not paying me, then Radar got upset with me every time I did that
[16:01:45] slash_nick: diegoviola: i dunno.. when i was a kid and i got grounded, my mom didn't change her mind when i said "i wont do it again"
[16:02:00] havenwood: diegoviola: Seems like you should have stopped doing that.
[16:02:02] diegoviola: Radar is not my mom, big difference
[16:02:16] adaedra: For #ruby-banned ban, the logs I still have in my client (I'll look at the full ones when I'll be able to) show you were being confrontational rather than trying to fix things.
[16:02:17] slash_nick: diegoviola: he is a channel operator... it's the irc mom
[16:03:16] diegoviola: havenwood: I stopped
[16:04:02] havenwood: diegoviola: So if I go look at the logs what will I find before you got banned? What'd you do?
[16:04:26] havenwood: diegoviola: Seems you were complaining about work stuff and they asked you to stop. Then what?
[16:05:08] havenwood: diegoviola: I have to agree with adaedra that the convo in #ruby-banned didn't seem to go well. :O
[16:05:55] diegoviola: I used to vent a little and Radar got upset with me, but I also got upset with him for calling me a teenager and saying fuck off, etc. so this is why I refused to apologize
[16:06:16] diegoviola: I understand he is angry but so am I
[16:06:22] adaedra: I suggest you take the question about your #RubyOnRails ban in a more appropriate place with #RoR ops. And, if I can give a piece of advice, tune the tone down a bit next time.
[16:06:42] diegoviola: adaedra: you are being biased
[16:07:01] adaedra: We operators have no time dealing with people looking for direct confrontation.
[16:07:13] havenwood: diegoviola: I'm not a #rubyonrails op to be clear.
[16:07:19] adaedra: Me neither.
[16:07:19] diegoviola: adaedra: then tell that to your friend RAdar, not to be confrontational and insulting also
[16:07:20] havenwood: (If that wasn't.)
[16:07:41] diegoviola: adaedra: just because you are an OP doesn't give you the right to treat others badly
[16:07:42] adaedra: diegoviola: He isn't my friend. This is not about him, but about you, right now.
[16:09:23] adaedra: What I see is that you were just ranting, which is not really the goal of #ruby-banned, and seemed to be going nowhere. Radar put an end on it.
[16:09:44] slash_nick: fwiw, maybe we need a #ror-worksucks or #ror-bummed-out
[16:09:53] havenwood: #rubyoffrails
[16:10:02] adaedra: I don't have anything else, I don't talk about the #RoR matters as this doesn't concern me, I'm just talking about the ban in -banned.
[16:10:06] havenwood: #rubyparavion
[16:10:56] adaedra: Now, let me open the logs.
[16:10:59] diegoviola: look, I agree I shouldn't have ranted a lot, but if Radar was nicer and had at least more tact when talking to me I would have been less pissed and probably would have apologized and I'd never been offtopic again
[16:11:30] diegoviola: just calling people "teenager" and saying things like "fuck off" doesn't help with the situation
[16:11:33] adaedra: Again, I can only talk for what happened in #ruby-banned. Rest is not my concern.
[16:12:27] diegoviola: there's more to it in PM
[16:12:45] diegoviola: I don't think it's worth to talk about it anymore though
[16:12:48] diegoviola: I'll just deal with my ban for now
[16:12:53] adaedra: Ah, yes, PM meaning "Public Message"?
[16:13:06] adaedra: Keep it so.
[16:13:51] adaedra: If you have a problem on how Radar manages #RoR, all I can tell is talk with another #RoR operator.
[16:14:36] diegoviola: I don't have a problem with how he manages #RoR, he's the one that have a problem with me
[16:14:42] diegoviola: I didn't banned him, he banned me for 3 months
[16:14:43] havenwood: diegoviola: /msg chanserv access #rubyonrails list
[16:15:29] diegoviola: adaedra: I get what you are saying but that really won't help
[16:15:39] diegoviola: all the rest of ops agree with Radar
[16:15:41] adaedra: ranting about it here won't either.
[16:15:51] adaedra: Well then open ##RubyOnRails.
[16:16:19] havenwood: diegoviola: I'd suggest accepting the timeout and avoiding complaining about work in #rubyonrails in the future. I don't think raging against it is going to get you anywhere.
[16:16:33] diegoviola: havenwood: ok
[16:17:18] havenwood: diegoviola: Three months isn't so bad. :) Anyways, there are plenty of channels.
[16:17:37] diegoviola: I'll try to put egos aside and talk to Radar in the future
[16:18:03] havenwood: Or maybe don't talk to Radar and keep under the radar. :P
[16:18:24] diegoviola: I'm not pissed with him for banning me, I'm pissed that some of the rules don't always apply to ops as well
[16:18:48] adaedra: Also, next time, don't consider all ops are the same, mm'ok?
[16:18:51] havenwood: If you're on the radar you might be a tango. :O
[16:18:56] diegoviola: adaedra: ok sorry about that
[16:19:24] diegoviola: ops or regulars
[16:21:31] diegoviola: for example, if you look at the logs in #rubyonrails you'll see that sevenseacat have been trying to annoy me for a few months, every time I said something sevenseacat would say "ding? ding?", or she would made some passive-aggressive comments, I asked her politely to stop a few times yet the behavior would continue
[16:21:36] diegoviola: Radar never did anything about that
[16:21:53] diegoviola: this kind of things is what makes me upset
[16:22:28] adaedra: Well, if you can't bear the place, don't be there.
[16:23:00] diegoviola: nothing wrong with being biased, but if there are rules in the channel, it should be for everyone...
[16:23:21] diegoviola: adaedra: well, yes, #ruby seems nicer
[16:24:42] adaedra: It's because we have cats in the room.
[16:24:46] diegoviola: perhaps all these are reactions because I complained a lot, I don't know
[16:25:49] ruby[bot]: adaedra: I don't know anything about cats
[16:25:59] havenwood: (They're better than people.)
[16:26:21] adaedra: https://youtu.be/Aam-eGrO8Os
[16:26:53] adaedra: A lot of things are better than people.
[16:27:39] havenwood: My cat will never drive when we pair program though...
[16:27:59] adaedra: I don't have a cat :(
[16:29:01] adaedra: !fact mk cats Cats! ????
[16:29:01] ruby[bot]: adaedra: I will remember that cats is Cats! ????
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[16:29:28] slash_nick: ACTION sneezes
[16:29:40] adaedra: Allergic to cats?
[16:29:46] diegoviola: adaedra: don't get me wrong, I like Ruby, I like Rails, I tried learning Node but I just don't like JS too much
[16:32:05] slash_nick: adaedra: oui
[16:32:41] adaedra: What if I told you: you don't have to be in #RubyOnRails channel to develop in rails?
[16:32:56] slash_nick: you might even get more done ;)
[16:32:58] diegoviola: adaedra: sure but there are times I want to ask something
[16:33:42] slash_nick: diegoviola: stack overflow, gitter, omniref?
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[16:34:48] slash_nick: diegoviola: you'll be back in a month or so, right?
[16:35:11] adaedra: slash_nick: personally, I have allergic problems with the big yellow thing in the sky.
[16:36:10] diegoviola: slash_nick: uh, not sure
[16:36:23] diegoviola: Radar has me on ignore and he says that if I keep complaining he will increase the ban time :/
[16:36:44] adaedra: So stop complaining in #RoR. Use it only for discussing #RoR-related questions.
[16:37:06] diegoviola: adaedra: I didn't complain anymore
[16:37:25] diegoviola: if you look at the logs, I didn't complain anymore, I keep telling this to Radar
[16:37:40] diegoviola: but he is upset still
[16:37:58] adaedra: >implying he even cares.
[16:38:38] diegoviola: no, it's fine
[16:39:13] diegoviola: I like Ruby, it's hard not to care about this
[16:40:08] diegoviola: I also understand what Radar is trying to do, but he doesn't have to ban me for 3 months... I already understand the message
[16:41:27] diegoviola: but yes, it's not the end of the world... I'll be learning something in the mean time or something :)
[16:43:32] havenwood: diegoviola: There's a Slack group for Rails as well.
[16:43:49] havenwood: I think it's pretty big.
[16:51:30] diegoviola: sorry for venting anyway, all that time
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[19:00:58] atmosx: I'm tired
[19:01:05] atmosx: today, I got really tired
[19:05:41] slash_nick: al2o3-cr: that easy huh? espurr?
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[19:41:06] slash_nick: lo siento al2o3-cr
[19:41:53] al2o3-cr: slash_nick: nevermind
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[20:05:46] al2o3-cr: well, i give up
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[20:07:30] apeiros: ACTION guesses Net ?????? time
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[20:07:51] apeiros: hm, indeed. it'd have : earlier
[20:07:53] slash_nick: apeiros: _e_ are the first 3, we guessed n and t
[20:08:03] apeiros: oh, and that
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[20:10:31] apeiros: I was right with time! hah!
[20:10:41] al2o3-cr: benchmark always gets me
[20:10:42] slash_nick: I should've jsut guessed time
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[20:11:32] al2o3-cr: slow down me
[20:11:33] slash_nick: DeBot: !hangman ruby 1
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[20:11:39] apeiros: and I would have been right with Net this time :D
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[20:11:45] slash_nick: and this time
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[20:12:50] al2o3-cr: i don't think so
[20:13:13] apeiros: set_range to set the range header?
[20:13:17] apeiros: ACTION doesn't want to cheat :D
[20:13:26] al2o3-cr: it is you're right
[20:13:30] DeBot: Net::HTTPHeader#???et???range [] 0/1 (ruby)
[20:13:34] slash_nick: it's not get
[20:13:39] DeBot: Net::HTTPHeader#???et_range [] 0/1 (ruby)
[20:13:59] al2o3-cr: slash_nick: header it's set
[20:14:18] DeBot: Net::HTTPHeader#set_range [] 0/1 (ruby) You won!
[20:14:34] al2o3-cr: get would be response
[20:15:14] al2o3-cr: DeBot: !hangman ruby 1
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[20:15:55] al2o3-cr: socket, logger ?
[20:16:24] DeBot: Ripper::Filter#parse [o] 1/1 (ruby) You lost!
[20:16:53] apeiros: tore you up
[20:17:01] al2o3-cr: it did indeed
[20:20:06] al2o3-cr: >> require 'ripper'; Ripper::Filter.new("p 1")
[20:20:08] ruby[bot]: al2o3-cr: # => #<Ripper::Filter:0x41c31b30 @__lexer=#<Ripper::Lexer:0x41c31b08>, @__line=nil, @__col=nil> (https://eval.in/519818)
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[20:21:09] slash_nick: urgh... https://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2016/02/cve-2015-7547-glibc-getaddrinfo-stack.html
[20:21:18] DeBot: ???????????????ar??? [e] 1/2 (ruby)
[20:23:03] slash_nick: took them 6 months from filing the cve to having a fix?
[20:24:26] al2o3-cr: slash_nick: just look at how many sites are vunerable to sql injection eek...
[20:26:54] al2o3-cr: when 5g arrives the world will be a better place :p
[20:28:47] DeBot: IO#chars [eg] 2/2 (ruby) You lost!
[20:41:17] al2o3-cr: >> Math.sin(54*Math::PI/180) # golden ratio for life (almost)
[20:41:18] ruby[bot]: al2o3-cr: # => 0.8090169943749475 (https://eval.in/519828)
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[20:52:41] al2o3-cr: >> f = Fiber.new { x,y = 0,1; loop { Fiber.yield(y/x.to_f); x, y = y, x+y } }; 135.times.map { f.resume }.last(3)
[20:52:42] ruby[bot]: al2o3-cr: # => [1.618033988749895, 1.618033988749895, 1.6180339887498947] (https://eval.in/519834)
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[21:38:50] Radar: adaedra: TIL you're my BFF
[21:39:08] Radar: lol "if Radar was nicer"
[21:39:40] Radar: Radar has been nice for 4 fucking years.
[21:39:43] Radar: Radar is no longer wanting to be nice.
[21:39:50] Radar: Because Radar has played nice for 4 years and it didn't work.
[21:40:14] Radar: [16:16:19] havenwood: diegoviola: I'd suggest accepting the timeout and avoiding complaining about work in #rubyonrails in the future. I don't think raging against it is going to get you anywhere.
[21:40:18] Radar: This times a thousand.
[21:40:37] Radar: [16:17:37] diegoviola: I'll try to put egos aside and talk to Radar in the future
[21:40:46] Radar: Should've done that the ~3 opportunities I already gave you.
[21:40:51] Radar: [16:18:24] diegoviola: I'm not pissed with him for banning me, I'm pissed that some of the rules don't always apply to ops as well
[21:40:56] Radar: Yes, you are pissed that I banned you.
[21:41:04] Radar: " because I'm banned there too, what is with this op abuse?"
[21:41:17] Radar: [16:40:08] diegoviola: I also understand what Radar is trying to do, but he doesn't have to ban me for 3 months... I already understand the message
[21:41:21] Radar: I'm still waiting for the apology btw.
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[21:41:57] Radar: Damn all outta logs but I've still got popcorn.
[21:42:06] slash_nick: Radar: you're absolutely right that sort of griping doesn't belong in #ror........ i do wonder if there should be a #ror-worksucks or #ror-unhappy-chatter, because there really isn't a place for that sort of talk
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[21:42:20] Radar: slash_nick: Maybe /dev/null?
[21:42:53] Radar: Or maybe tell it to your mentors in private conversations... Like, I think it's obvious you shouldn't be bitching about work in a public channel _when you're a freelancer_
[21:42:59] Radar: You're doing anti-marketing for yourself.
[21:43:01] al2o3-cr: DeBot: &|+-
[21:43:02] DeBot: Set#- [arygc[]&|+] 10/12 (ruby) You won!
[21:43:35] Radar: [16:00:55] diegoviola: all anger and childish things aside
[21:43:51] Radar: I wish we started out with this instead of going on an angry rant which only makes me want to further extend the ban
[21:44:34] Radar: diegoviola: The short version is that I want as few disruptive people in #rubyonrails as possible. You were being disruptive. You got banned. Ban expired. You kept being disruptive. Ban durations keep getting longer every time that happens.
[21:44:57] slash_nick: Radar: maybe #ruby-community?...
[21:44:58] al2o3-cr: Radar: You is a nice guy :)
[21:45:00] Radar: diegoviola: Then you want to argue with me about the ban duration, claiming it's unfair! If the other ops agree with me, then perhaps the ban was fair?
[21:45:51] al2o3-cr: DeBot: !hangman ruby 1
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[21:46:06] apeiros: Radar: naw, that just means conspiracy!
[21:46:29] Radar: apeiros: ssssh don't let him know that we have it out for him
[21:46:43] Radar: Because a conspiracy totally makes more sense than "I've been a bad boy and should think about my behaviour"
[21:47:00] al2o3-cr: I wonder what the longest instance/singleton method is ???
[21:47:27] apeiros: I'm honestly surprised that you're still appealing to reason
[21:47:39] Radar: apeiros: I'd like to hope that he's not completely reasonless.
[21:47:49] Radar: apeiros: It's been twelve-hundred-and-something-days and I keep my vigil.
[21:48:04] apeiros: he isn't. but IME he'll forget the reason again quickly enough :-/
[21:50:51] Radar: And I should mention: recent ban extensions have been because you complained about the ban in the first place. Just accept it as my decision and wait out the ban time, while thinking about your behaviour, diegoviola.
[21:51:42] diegoviola: I understand I was given many chances but please look at the logs, I haven't said a single thing that is offtopic
[21:52:12] diegoviola: and I won't anymore
[21:53:05] diegoviola: I also understand ops are annoyed and they have their reasons to be, but I think it's unfair that I was the only person getting this sort of punishment when others get away with being offtopic or belittling me on the channel
[21:53:06] Radar: diegoviola: You understand that even a single iota of offtopic will result in a now 3 month ban?
[21:53:19] Radar: diegoviola: Because your current ban is 2 months long, and we add a month for every infraction.
[21:53:36] Radar: I don't want to remove the ban and then later the same day have to add it again and deal with this drama.
[21:54:15] diegoviola: Radar: I understand this but please make this a channel rule for everyone
[21:54:19] Radar: diegoviola: And by "offtopic" I mainly mean complaining about clients. I don't want to hear it.
[21:54:23] diegoviola: I don't want different treatment than anyone else
[21:54:38] Radar: diegoviola: If other people are disruptive in the channel then they get banned too.
[21:54:50] Radar: Turns out: not that many people are disruptive.
[21:55:17] Radar: If you're going to vent, publicly logged channels is not the place to do it.
[21:55:20] Radar: Find someone else to vent to.
[21:56:50] diegoviola: that's ok with me, I don't really need to vent with anyone, not really interested about that
[21:57:15] diegoviola: as I said a while ago... you will not see that sort of thing from me again
[21:57:42] diegoviola: so my sincere apologies, really
[21:58:18] slash_nick: diegoviola: looking forward to having you back and on topic in two months :)
[21:58:29] diegoviola: I don't really hold a grudge or anything for you calling me childish or saying "fuck off" to me
[21:58:38] diegoviola: I guess you were angry but I understand
[21:58:51] Radar: diegoviola: What's the message you get when you send a message to #ruby?
[21:59:10] Radar: Oh, none. Good.
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[21:59:21] al2o3-cr: shit happens
[21:59:35] Radar: Bans have been removed.
[21:59:40] diegoviola: ok cool, thanks for the unmute :)
[21:59:48] Radar: diegoviola: Yes I was annoyed at you because you were assuming incorrect things about me.
[22:00:02] diegoviola: Radar: sorry about that
[22:00:06] eam: {{{{{GROUP HUG}}}}}
[22:00:10] Radar: I don't have personal vendettas against anyo... ok, maybe that's crap. marcamilly can die in a fire for all I care ,but besides that I don't care.
[22:00:36] eam: who's marcamilly, I must get the scoop on the drama
[22:00:39] diegoviola: Radar: same here
[22:00:41] apeiros: eam: is that??? balanced?
[22:00:58] diegoviola: Radar: I think it's important to just let people know what is acceptable and what isn't
[22:01:04] Radar: eam: Long term help vampire on #rubyonrails who would get ultrapissed when you didn't answer his questions in exactly the right way.
[22:01:19] Radar: eam: You'd ask for code and he'd go on epic rants about us not needing to see his code.
[22:01:32] eam: sometimes I feel bad for knowing nothing about rails
[22:01:36] Radar: Then he'd show us his code, we'd point out the obviously wrong thing and he'd not even say thanks.
[22:03:27] slash_nick: diegoviola: welcome back... can i recommend ignoring the people who've made passive aggressive comments... you know, if they continue?
[22:03:59] Radar: I'll tell ssc to turn off the dinger
[22:04:08] Radar: although it shouldn't ding any more anyway
[22:05:15] al2o3-cr: DeBot: !hangman ruby 1
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[22:05:25] eam: too much pressure
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[22:07:38] al2o3-cr: slash_nick: well done :)
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[22:15:24] Radar: <3 Textual "Ignore messages containing this user's nick"
[22:16:19] slash_nick: Radar: you play hangman but have it ignored? how strange
[22:16:27] slash_nick: how do you know if you're getting it right?
[22:16:37] slash_nick: Radar stinks DeBot ;)
[22:17:49] Radar: I'm just that good.
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[22:33:55] Radar: yay I fixed the UTF-8 formatting issues on helpa :) http://logs.ryanbigg.com/ruby-offtopic
[22:35:26] al2o3-cr: Radar: what did it used to be like?
[22:35:41] Radar: al2o3-cr: look at the logs for all the ????
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[22:46:11] al2o3-cr: just cooked a inch thick peice of sirloin 2mins a side came out like seared tuna. who's with me on this?
[22:48:40] al2o3-cr: maybe a touch more cooking next time bit too raw
[22:52:53] Ox0dea: Mah papaw liked his still mooin'.
[22:53:29] Ox0dea: Real "walk it by a fire"-like.
[22:55:49] al2o3-cr: Or it was proper making sounds, or maybe that was me :P
[22:58:48] al2o3-cr: i like it rare but that was barely cooked haha (hungry.com)
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