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[00:08:37] eam: wait wait, those pay?
[00:08:54] eam: one of the things I like least about android are all the damn advertising related popups
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[00:19:39] miah: you can spend the money in Google Play store
[00:19:52] miah: i've had surveys that pay out $1
[00:20:04] miah: bought lots of stuff on Play using that 'free' money
[00:20:16] eam: how much can I pay to remove that stuff from my phone
[00:20:26] miah: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.paidtasks&hl=en
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[09:38:23] apeiros: lovely how oracle's regexp_replace can't handle \n, nor \xHH, nor any other sensible thing
[10:13:07] adaedra: how dare you put “oracle” and “sensible” in the same sentence
[10:13:12] adaedra: Hello rubyists
[10:15:09] apeiros: adaedra: you quiet obviously missed the negation in the sentence.
[10:15:12] apeiros: that's how.
[10:15:17] apeiros: also, hello :D
[10:15:34] adaedra: still too close each from each other
[10:16:24] apeiros: I know. it's insufferable
[10:16:43] apeiros: gotta disco, laters!
[10:24:01] dminuoso: ACTION pokes adaedra
[10:24:19] dminuoso: Do French really drink redwine for breakfast?
[11:16:53] adaedra: Why would they
[11:17:16] dminuoso: Why would they not.
[11:17:33] adaedra: Because it's not breakfast drink
[11:17:41] dminuoso: Tell that to the alcoholics.
[11:23:32] al2o3-cr: what about frexit
[11:24:08] al2o3-cr: or was i dreaming
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[15:41:38] eam: champagne however is a breakfast drink
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[15:54:22] aScottishBoat: > champagne however is a breakfast drink (I wonder where that came from)
[15:54:37] aScottishBoat: why not a stout? Stout with eggs, toast, sausages, that's a great breakfast, too
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[18:09:19] adaedra: jhass: still around?
[18:10:14] adaedra: I'm leaving work, have to drop my things, and then will go
[18:10:33] adaedra: it's U Kleistpark right?
[18:11:52] adaedra: I'll ping you before communting there then
[18:12:14] jhass: great, cya!
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[18:28:25] guacamole: i'm attempting to put together a quick talk about code reviewing - does anyone have any techniques or tips (from what to look for when reviewing to ways of communicating feedback or anything else) that have been particularly successful or helpful? I'd love to include them and share with some of the local LA ruby community
[18:30:36] havenwood: guacamole: I was talking with baweaver the other day about adjusting the level of review based on the quality of the code.
[18:31:28] havenwood: I paraphrase, but he suggested you move a D to a C or a B to an A. If you have a D, it's demoralizing to put the D-C, C-B, and B-A review in all at once.
[18:31:42] guacamole: oh excellent advise
[18:32:14] havenwood: I'll sometimes start a follow-up style review issue for a PR that has already suffered enough.
[18:32:20] guacamole: i'll be sure to mention taking into account the level of the submitter
[18:32:35] guacamole: what does that issue typically entail?
[18:33:13] havenwood: Like if I tell you the architecture is wrong and needs to be redone, don't pile on whitespace nits.
[18:33:38] havenwood: guacamole: It's a balancing act because you want the code to ultimately get polished.
[18:35:12] havenwood: guacamole: I think having linters is a big win for moving much of that out of the review process. You just demand linters passed before PR.
[18:35:34] havenwood: I was glad to see Elixir fmt in 1.6. It's nice to not have to debate the shed color.
[18:36:13] havenwood: guacamole: It's nicer to have a robot complain about nits.
[18:36:26] havenwood: People prefer whiney robots to whiney people.
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[18:39:04] guacamole: i understand, i was planning on doing an "automation" slide to talk about how to be able to focus on bigger problems than style guide things
[18:39:13] guacamole: god those nits are so important though
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[21:46:47] apeiros__: weeeell, I guess I should have cared about my DO droplets earlier. I'm still paying for 3 droplets I don't even use anymore. for like 2 years.
[21:46:49] apeiros__: ACTION hides
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[21:52:43] havenwood: yeah, i got burned when i first started using DO because i didn't realize i was still billed with the instance spun down
[21:52:46] havenwood: Amazon spoiled me
[21:52:54] havenwood: I like the new DO pricing.
[21:53:17] havenwood: The new Ubuntu Rails image isn't half bad either.
[21:53:55] havenwood: It gets you started with a configured firewall, letsencrypt and rails already configured with nginx.
[22:06:02] apeiros: is letsencrypt with multiple domains on the same server hard?
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[22:37:29] havenwood: apeiros: nope! certbot lets you do manual rather than automagical mode for odd setups
[22:38:06] havenwood: the only downside i can think of is the 3-mo maximum cert duration (i think that's a thing - if it's not i haven't looked hard enough how to get around it)
[22:40:21] apeiros: with automated cert updates that shouldn't be an issue, no?
[22:40:27] apeiros: sounds more like a feature to me :D
[22:58:38] apeiros: hm, htop says "Uptime: 562 days(!)". wonder what it wants to tell me with that exclamation mark 0:-)
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