#ruby-offtopic - 09 October 2018
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[19:52:28] ivanskie: so uhm my wife thinks she wants to learn coding. she's a total beginner. like no idea what terminal or console is, or any technical concept. other than how to login to OS, and open browser to go online. and maybe use notepad/textedit or word.
[19:52:51] ivanskie: question: Any recommendations, anybody know of anyone who started like that, or etc etc? thoughts?
[19:57:19] phaul: I would say a lot depends on what she wants to achieve. I doubt she wants to know computer science nitty gritty for a start. Creating a website might be something she would be interested in. Once you have something working you can go forward with programming bits.. JS or maybe first factor out stuff with css filters scss or whatever. etc.
[20:00:46] phaul: I guess Im trying to say that don't do it for just the sake of programming. Have some more concrete goals that you can achieve...
[20:04:58] ivanskie: also slight edge case scenario.. high functioning autism, and stay at home mom, three kids.
[20:06:22] baweaver: https://medium.com/@baweaver/creating-reducing-enumerable-an-illustrated-adventure-c6adfcc30d5b
[20:10:39] ivanskie: it'd be awesome if wifey learns to code. i'm just concerned about motivation and discipline in the long term.
[20:11:33] baweaver: The next one is "Scaling Christmas" which covers how major companies scale for holidays using lemurs, santa, and magic.
[20:16:21] phaul: while I love the cartoon aspect, please don't start learning coding with "creating reducing enumerable". I don't know if baweaver you have anything that goes basic enough
[20:16:26] ivanskie: just showed links to my wife.. "Uhm where did you find that book and how much does it cost and can you download it to my iPad" lol
[20:17:01] baweaver: That talk and content is marketed towards someone who has a base grasp already.
[20:17:55] baweaver: Already got a major publisher to agree to the book, now I just have to write it
[20:30:28] ivanskie: alright now i need to figure out how to introduce basics to her. (what console is, how to get there.. editors.. etc etc).
[20:47:43] ivanskie: I 'worked' with Radar and the team when he was about to publish Rails 4 in Action. kind of a feedback from a n00b point of view haha.
[20:48:33] ivanskie: oh hey Radar. by the way im now a devops at a ruby place :P *success kid meme here* finally haha
[20:49:34] ivanskie: anyway.. bwaveaver im thinking.. if you want someone to help in similar extent with your book. maybe i could get you in touch with my wife?
[20:49:54] ivanskie: Doing that with Radar really helped me learn rails, and stay motivated at the time.
[21:05:15] baweaver: Also need to get tech editors nailed down with publishers. They haven't said much back on that one yet.
[21:07:52] baweaver: The first few chapters are slow writing as it's hard for me to step all the way back to numbers, strings, booleans, and nil
[21:09:31] baweaver: The chapter on truth will be trying to find out who stole the cookies based on logic
[21:10:21] baweaver: strings have a lot of shakespeare quotes and sherlock and arsene lupin running around
[21:13:10] baweaver: Here's the original base: https://baweaver.gitbooks.io/an-illustrated-guide-to-ruby/content/
[21:14:40] ivanskie: i think i'll see how far into the first week of CS50 lectures I can get with her to start. just for the CS basics. then jump into ruby ^
[21:16:08] ivanskie: so Brandon, are you writing that book just because, or were you trying to teach your significant other?
[21:16:57] baweaver: I've been trying to teach him programming but it never sticks and he's never interested
[21:17:26] baweaver: then he wants to draw too, so I start teaching him, but have to cartoon it down so he can do it
[21:17:39] baweaver: then he starts asking me to make the lemurs do stuff, so I do and eventually I have a dark idea
[21:18:01] ivanskie: like there's a blog post of a blacksmith switching careers and learning ruby/rails from scratch.