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[02:46:58] baweaver: Anyone familiar with gem name aliasing? Tempted to have a longhand and shorthand version of a gem. The obvious solution is to just push two gems and keep them in sync.
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[02:50:39] Radar: baweaver: why a long name too?
[02:51:00] baweaver: gem name is you_type_too_much
[02:51:05] baweaver: which to me is a tinge ironic
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[02:51:29] shevy: gem names can be aliased?
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[02:51:52] shevy: yesterday I found out that you can use <pre> tags somehow for describing a gem
[02:51:59] baweaver: it'll go through .*sh_history files looking for patterns for aliasing, and grade your last days shell session
[02:52:19] baweaver: it'll be especially harsh on items where history commands would work.
[02:52:24] shevy: https://rubygems.org/gems/terminal-size/versions/0.0.6 - I still have not found out how this is effectively done
[02:52:59] Radar: shevy: https://github.com/rking/terminal-size/blob/master/terminal-size.gemspec#L8
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[02:58:25] baweaver: zsh_history is handy considering it stashes the exact time as an integer
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[03:04:33] baweaver: I will say I'm beginning to become very fond of some of rails datetime maths....
[03:05:30] baweaver: still heavy though, debating if I really need it.
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[03:25:11] baweaver: Looking into how to reverse read from a file in ruby without loading the entire thing into memory
[03:25:15] baweaver: any hints where to look?
[03:25:33] baweaver: IO.readlines(file).reverse works but could become slow fast.
[03:27:08] eam: baweaver: read the file in reverse and write out a new one. Write every time you encounter a \n
[03:27:30] baweaver: finding that there's not really a built in
[03:27:36] eam: I doubt there is
[03:27:48] baweaver: https://gist.github.com/baweaver/66054f073e8525aef021
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[03:28:05] baweaver: ripping through zsh history, better to read in reverse
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[03:28:33] baweaver: finding common substring patterns, where history could have been used, what aliases you should probably write already, etc.
[03:29:03] eam: baweaver: `tac #{file}`
[03:29:11] baweaver: ha, fine fine
[03:29:13] eam: popen to avoid slurp
[03:29:15] baweaver: tail too I guess.
[03:29:20] eam: will tail do it?
[03:29:32] baweaver: There are a few SO answers on it.
[03:29:41] baweaver: just making sure there's not something I missed
[03:29:56] baweaver: probably giving a talk at HTML5Conf up here on the 20th
[03:30:21] toretore: file.each_line.reverse_each ?
[03:30:21] baweaver: Title is: You Type Too Much
[03:30:30] baweaver: reads the entire file.
[03:30:39] baweaver: not a big deal for now.
[03:30:43] baweaver: I can optimize it later.
[03:31:27] eam: toretore: that'll slurp
[03:31:50] baweaver: first section goes over zsh aliases, then editor macro/snippets, then code generators, then meta generators
[03:31:53] eam: if it's an interview question they might be pressing to see if you can handle reading buffers and parsing out separators
[03:31:56] baweaver: that last one, oh that's fun.
[03:32:17] baweaver: If it were they'd catch me on that one.
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[03:33:03] baweaver: problem is I typed some invalid UTF-8 chat in there too somewhere so now I have to strip that bugger
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[03:34:14] baweaver: For now I'll slurp the thing and worry about getting useful info out
[03:34:25] baweaver: refactoring it for buffers / segmented reading later won't be too bad.
[03:36:33] baweaver: anyways, off to acquire foodstuffs for the rest of the week, then back home.
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[05:02:29] cantaberry: Using ubuntu with 1.9.1 and it can't find installed gems. How can I trouble shoot? The gem exists in /var/lib/gems/1.9.1/gems
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[05:17:33] toretore: cantaberry: output of `which ruby`?
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[05:18:08] cantaberry: usr bin ruby
[05:18:38] toretore: `which gem`?
[05:19:19] toretore: `gem env` > gist.github.com
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[05:20:09] cantaberry: the gist command jsut created a local file.
[05:20:19] cantaberry: You want me to put i tthere.
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[05:24:29] cantaberry: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/abc130ab77f3c6446f4d
[05:24:46] cantaberry: ruby 1.9.3p484 (2013-11-22 revision 43786) [x86_64-linux]
[05:25:16] cantaberry: I also had to install the gem as root.
[05:25:29] cantaberry: It wouldn't let me do it as my regular-priveledged user.
[05:26:21] toretore: 1.9.3 != 1.9.1
[05:26:44] cantaberry: I saw that too...
[05:26:58] cantaberry: But it seems to be lookign in the right place... how do I change that?
[05:27:06] cantaberry: gem install put it in the 1.9.1 directory.
[05:27:39] toretore: is /usr/bin/ruby a link to /usr/bin/ruby1.9.1 ?
[05:28:31] cantaberry: And if I do /usr/bin/ruby -v it still says 1.9.3.
[05:28:39] toretore: ruby -e'p $:'
[05:29:08] cantaberry: ["/usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.9.1", "/usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.9.1/x86_64-linux", "/usr/local/lib/site_ruby", "/usr/lib/ruby/vendor_ruby/1.9.1", "/usr/lib/ruby/vendor_ruby/1.9.1/x86_64-linux", "/usr/lib/ruby/vendor_ruby", "/usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1", "/usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/x86_64-linux"]
[05:30:02] toretore: hm, you may have to require('rubygems') first
[05:30:19] toretore: i don't remember in which version that became unnecessary
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[05:31:08] cantaberry: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/69ad149cf150dedbbe16
[05:32:34] cantaberry: Should I trash the RPM and reinstall?
[05:33:50] cantaberry: Doing it now.
[05:34:07] toretore: make sure there is no ruby in your system after you've removed it
[05:35:53] toretore: and use --purge or quivalent
[05:36:27] cantaberry: I think I was missing a x library so gosu crapped out
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[05:38:59] cantaberry: Now it looks like its building.
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[05:39:49] toretore: what do you mean building?
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[05:40:00] toretore: on gem install?
[05:40:13] toretore: if it doesn't compile then it's not installed
[05:40:13] cantaberry: Amazing what happens when you look at the readme: https://github.com/gosu/gosu/wiki/Getting-Started-on-Linux
[05:40:24] cantaberry: Figured that out... :)
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[05:52:05] cantaberry: Okay. I think it's finding the library now. The include doesn't fail... but it doesn't draw anything. Just hangs there.
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[07:55:14] TTilus: cantaberry: trying one of the samples?
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[08:28:05] tmillc: cantaberry: gosu is fun but tricky. I got the tutorial program working fine, but the first original thing I tried implemented never worked out and I moved on.
[08:28:42] tmillc: but I also don't know much about gamedev so I was probably putting my logic in the redraw spot, or something, who knows.
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[08:33:08] Neon: Hello. Do you know of a possibility to setup a global key input listener in a Ruby application (Windows)? E.g. I have the Ruby program running in background, press a key or key combination and in my Ruby program a handler for the key is called?
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[08:43:23] baweaver: Not in Ruby, you'd have to drop to C.
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[08:44:12] baweaver: which would be different for every OS you'd use considering they treat input devices differently.
[08:45:13] baweaver: that being said, it can be used for nefarious purposes, so I won't say much more than that.
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[08:47:44] Neon: That's a valid point so it's probably better that this is not an easily accessible feature. Thanks for the information though.??
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[09:50:52] nix0: Why is the OptionParser object referred to as 'opts' inside its block?
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[09:51:44] apeiros: nix0: you can give it any name
[09:51:59] apeiros: it's an ordinary block argument
[09:52:33] nix0: apeiros: Yeah, I know that. But I was wondering why name it 'opts'? Is that short for 'options' because it's an optionparser object not an options object.
[09:52:59] apeiros: yes, it quite likely stands for "opts"
[09:55:30] nix0: apeiros: Does it make more sense to name the block argument option_parser or something similar? I know it doesn't really matter but...
[09:55:50] apeiros: as said, you can name it whatever you want
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[09:56:07] apeiros: if it makes more sense to you to call it option_parser - just do so
[09:56:18] nix0: aperios: Okay.
[09:56:48] apeiros: ?tabnick nix0
[09:56:49] ruboto: nix0, pro-tip - use tab completion for nicks. avoids typos in nicks.
[09:57:37] nix0: apeiros: I didn't actually know you could do that. Thanks.
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[11:02:51] shevy: good morning ruby!
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[12:38:22] TTilus: good afternoon, #ruby! (and now some football, u know, the one you play with your feet ;)
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[12:48:02] shevy: people are so lazy on sundays
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[13:05:39] pontiki: a day of rest
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[13:26:28] Total_noob: ACTION Do not be fooled. The 'pros' do not need the noob help, and they code any time they feel to, Sundays included. .. Just discovered I had 1.9.3 Ruby installed all time long and that compiling newer worked out somehow too.
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[13:28:41] pontiki: quite so. i code even when i'm idling in here, or when i'm not in here at all.
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[13:28:59] pontiki: it can be quite meditative and restful
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[13:49:59] jokke1: if i wanted to split a string at an _unescaped_ delimiter ":", how would i do this? The regex i'm using is /(?<!\\)(\\\\)*:/
[13:50:37] jokke1: but since lookbehinds have to have a fixed length, i can't leave the potential unescaped backslashes out of the match
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[14:04:57] jhass: yeah, not really possible with regex, a simple parser should be easier
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[14:05:47] apeiros: can be done with scan, though
[14:06:31] apeiros: str.scan(/(?:\\[^:]|[^:])*/m)
[14:06:41] hololeap: does anyone know if eventmachine and activerecord play nice together? i'm having some strange issues
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[14:09:50] hololeap: when i try to do a database call within the eventmachine loop it hangs the thread
[14:10:09] hololeap: mabe pg is the culprit
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[14:12:44] [k-: err i dont think you should use io in a event loop?
[14:12:50] [k-: start a new thread?
[14:13:02] jhass: >> "foo\\:bar".scan(/(?:\\[^:]|[^:])*/m)
[14:13:03] ruboto: jhass # => ["foo\\", "", "bar", ""] (https://eval.in/444552)
[14:13:13] jokke1: apeiros: yeah scan works with /(.+?(?<!\\)(?:\\\\)*?)(?::|$)/
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[14:15:47] jokke1: >> 'foo\\:bar\\\:baz:foobar'.scan(/(.+?(?<!\\)(?:\\\\)*?)(?::|$)/)
[14:15:48] ruboto: jokke1 # => [["foo\\:bar\\\\"], ["baz"], ["foobar"]] (https://eval.in/444553)
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[14:18:35] prateekp: how to configure mkmf conf.rb ?
[14:18:41] prateekp: are there some good examples
[14:19:29] prateekp: in python there is setup.py which has options like extra_compile_args, libraries, include_dirs, library_dirs etc
[14:19:41] prateekp: how can this be done in ruby?
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[14:24:38] hololeap: [k-: it's running inside a EventMachine::ThreadedResource ... isn't that threaded automatically?
[14:24:56] hololeap: i need to look at that and see how it works
[14:26:04] [k-: i have never used any event library before :s
[14:26:15] [k-: but an event loop is like breathing
[14:26:58] [k-: if you do something large before your next breath, like sing a song (without breathing), you'd probably die
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[14:28:53] hololeap: meh, i've used it before and didn't have any issues. i can't figure out what i'm doing differently...
[14:29:15] [k-: i dont think em would do something so crazy to start a new thread for each loop
[14:29:32] [k-: it will quickly cause ruby to run out of resources
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[14:30:24] goldfish6744: is there no scheduler that can delay the start of new threads based on (non)-available resources
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[14:30:35] hololeap: i'm going to try celluloid instead
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[14:31:14] hololeap: since none of my i/o is tied to em
[14:32:01] [k-: goldfish6744: and do what? block?
[14:32:32] goldfish6744: much like how, say, a web server blocks requests if it's running out of resources, yea
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[14:34:18] hololeap: goldfish6744: what platform are you running on?
[14:34:57] goldfish6744: Win x64, but irrelevant, it was just a thought based on what [k- said earlier
[14:35:35] hololeap: goldfish6744: oh...
[14:36:08] goldfish6744: and to add to that, I have sorry little understanding of Ruby, or of OO programming in general
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[14:37:02] hololeap: ruby probably isn't the best program to learn OO concepts in. it's too easy to break the rules
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[14:37:21] hololeap: not program
[14:37:34] cantaberry: Can someone point me in the right direction? I think I'm having issues with the window attr_reader width in 17... https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8bde45386d90fd4635f1
[14:38:24] shevy: you pass self
[14:38:24] manveru: cantaberry: what's the issue?
[14:38:27] shevy: are you sure this is right?
[14:38:34] Coraline: cantaberry: the_window is out of scope
[14:38:41] hololeap: cantaberry: you never saved the_window to an instance variable
[14:38:42] Coraline: You never capture it in initialize
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[14:39:07] manveru: well, ok, that issue :)
[14:39:08] cantaberry: It's an agrument...
[14:39:15] cantaberry: How would you do that?
[14:39:21] manveru: but not an argument to the other methods
[14:39:22] hololeap: yeah but it's a local variable so it dies when the method ends
[14:39:25] Coraline: @the_window = the_window
[14:40:10] hololeap: you need to use instance variables (starts with a @) to be able to use it between methods
[14:40:22] cantaberry: But the method doesn't ned does it?
[14:40:31] Coraline: update needs it
[14:40:35] cantaberry: I guess initialize does.
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[14:40:55] Coraline: If you're going to reference it on 17 then you need to capture it somewhere.
[14:41:57] [k-: java best oo learning language?
[14:42:29] hololeap: [k-: use mono if you hate microsoft
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[14:44:49] [k-: those are not nearly as popular
[14:45:42] [k-: there is no so. it just is.
[14:45:56] hololeap: c# is probably more popular than ruby
[14:46:38] hololeap: mono is actually pretty good from what i've seen. i just don't usually program in windows so i don't use .NET
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[14:50:44] shevy: c# is now ranked 4 on TIOBE which we can all agree is the ultimate authority on programming languages popularity http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html
[14:51:27] shevy: the TIOBE ranking is so good that ruby manages to jump +6 ranks in one year, can you believe this?
[14:52:11] shevy: I guess the only dataset that is somewhat useful is the objective-c versus swift one
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[14:58:13] goldfish6744: holy cr@p, none of the languages I know are there :/
[14:58:47] [k-: this probably shows you are old
[14:58:56] [k-: or tiobe is just wrong
[14:59:06] hololeap: or you just don't like mainstream languages...
[14:59:09] goldfish6744: well, okay, assembly, but not on any x86-based thing
[14:59:36] goldfish6744: (6510 assembly)
[15:01:01] hololeap: it looks like ruby was at its peak back in 2009
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[15:01:36] goldfish6744: but in the textual evaluation bit they also say Ruby users started working hard
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[15:01:44] goldfish6744: so that's probably a good thing for them
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[15:17:54] shevy: hololeap yeah probably... I am trying to get a better overall picture by using something like:
[15:18:25] shevy: http://goo.gl/jTX43u
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[15:18:37] shevy: but it's not a good way to search :\
[15:18:50] shevy: the overall trend is somewhat ok I think
[15:19:12] shevy: php lost somewhat, python gained quite a bit, perl lost a bit and ruby is sorta in between perl and php
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[15:20:26] Coraline: You can also look at the breakdown of projects on Github I suppose.
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[15:21:27] shevy: yeah well we always gain only a fraction of the overall view
[15:21:44] shevy: e. g. I am very active on rubygems.org but rather inactive on github
[15:22:26] shevy: Rails must have really been riding on a huge hype from back then, pretty every chart shows a jump in the 2006-2009 time span
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[15:29:28] shevy: what the ... http://iyask.me/Instant-Music-Downloader/
[15:29:41] shevy: do we have something like youtube-dl in ruby?
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[16:01:26] arup_r: shevy: you want to download videos from youtube ?
[16:01:38] shevy: I am using youtube-dl :)
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[16:38:45] User458764: Hi, where can I question about Rack?
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[16:39:40] shevy: you can try here, the author of rack ( chris2 ) is also here :-)
[16:40:00] User458764: shevy great :)
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[16:41:11] User458764: I would like to map /foo to an URL in short
[16:42:05] User458764: I mean an external URL
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[17:07:45] f4cl3y: How can I pass a multiline string to system shell in ruby?
[17:08:12] f4cl3y: I used the backtick, but it prints "not found" for the following lines.
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[17:20:30] shevy: do normal commands have a newline as part of their name f4cl3y
[17:21:20] shevy: ideally show the code you are trying to use, and verify that the binary exists and works on your system
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[17:38:57] DEA7TH: I've read somewhere that it's best practice in Ruby to keep your function bodies up to 2-5 lines of code, and split them into smaller functions if necessary. Is it a good practice to write bigger functions, if they are readable and can't be split into anything reusable? I've always hated functions which are only used in one place.
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[17:44:23] shevy: the main argument for smaller methods is that they can be easier changed or modified
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[17:56:07] toretore: DEA7TH: keep methods as short as possible
[17:56:22] toretore: if it can be refactored, refactor it
[17:57:59] DEA7TH: toretore: any arguments for that?
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[18:10:45] toretore: DEA7TH: many
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[18:18:30] yottanami: I need to create code/deployment/build/server configuration web based DOCUMENTATION. do you have any recommend?
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[18:28:41] brojo: Anyone in here loooking for work? I need a Ruby developer to finish a project that was started by old programmer who disappeared on me. Please skype me: rob.j.1985 if you are interested.
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[18:38:50] DEA7TH: Is it allowed to post job seeking/offerings on Freenode? Awesome, I didn't know that.
[18:39:54] shevy: it's quite rare that people try to recruit on #ruby really
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[18:40:29] arup_r: yes shevy
[18:40:36] arup_r: But we could have one separate
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[19:01:16] wasamasa: I wonder what the success rate is
[19:01:23] wasamasa: or at the very least, the response rate
[19:01:58] shevy: probably less than 1%
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[19:06:29] wasamasa: and now it's sunk to 0%
[19:09:46] DEA7TH: Why would this be the case? Apart from jobs being usually region-restricted.
[19:09:58] wasamasa: because he had a ping timeout
[19:10:06] DEA7TH: I mean in general
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[19:11:00] shevy: it is usually not a good medium for recruitment
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[19:11:12] shevy: most people here will have a day job
[19:11:44] shevy: 90% are usually idle (99% on sundays)
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[19:16:27] DEA7TH: Some are contractors
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[19:17:33] shevy: poor folks
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[19:25:09] BraddPitt: well, i guess it couldn't hurt to skype him huh?
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[19:26:31] shevy: go ahead!
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[19:31:25] DEA7TH: I'd also skype him, had I not uninstalled Skype.
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[19:33:36] DEA7TH: Whoever decided that IRC clients should display join/quit messages alongside with chat messages is an idiot. (or just lazy)
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[19:34:02] phreakocious: DEA7TH: turn it off?
[19:34:03] goldfish2310: think in most IRC clients you can set them not to be displayed
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[19:35:09] BraddPitt: it is helpful in smaller, more intimate channels
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[19:35:13] DEA7TH: It's useful sometimes.
[19:35:13] jhass: the good clients let you filter it according to user activity
[19:35:16] BraddPitt: but for something this big I would turn it off
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[19:35:29] phreakocious: I can turn it off per-channel
[19:35:55] phreakocious: I think even mIRC could do that :)
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[19:36:21] DEA7TH: mIRC was actually the least awful client I used. Possibly except for Konversation.
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[19:37:07] banister: DEA7TH mirc looks crappy though, it hasn't (iirc) improved its design much from the 90s
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[19:37:47] phreakocious: sure you didn't mean to go to #TCL ? :)
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[19:47:34] dreinull75: I use Sequel for Object mapping and I need a simple way to visualize the objects. It's all just strings, numbers and dates and some associations. So I was thinking maybe here's someone who has done this kind of object preseantion before. I'm using Sinatra so any CSS or JS solution would be highly appreciated.
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[19:48:22] dreinull75: I did Google but couldn't really come up since I'm lacking terminology for what I'm doing.
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[19:49:23] dreinull75: I should read before I hit enter...
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[19:53:20] ruby-lang280: Hello, I am looking to define a method that returns the area of a circle. I am getting an error, can someone please help me with this issue?
[19:53:45] BraddPitt: ?help ruby-lang280
[19:53:45] ruboto_: ruby-lang280, You can find an overview of my commands at http://ruby-community.com/ruboto/commands
[19:53:50] BraddPitt: not what I wanted
[19:54:53] BraddPitt: well ruby-lang280 post your code with what you expect to get and what you are actually getting
[19:55:00] BraddPitt: via gist, please
[19:55:07] ruboto_: https://gist.github.com - Multiple files, syntax highlighting, even automatically with matching filenames, can be edited
[19:55:15] shevy: DEA7TH I disabled seeing join and quit messages many years ago; I also don't see time stamps. It's much easier for me to focus on just what is said, rather than when it is said
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[19:55:46] BraddPitt: I find timestamps help
[19:56:03] BraddPitt: because I have a persistent screen on my server that I ssh into for irc usage, so I know if what i'm seeing is stale text or new
[19:56:14] atmosx: I had removed the join/part messages but it was a nightmare.
[19:56:45] atmosx: You need to configure the client to at least notify you when someone that was talking the last 5-10 minutes parted.
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[19:57:35] shevy: what client are you using atmosx?
[19:58:04] atmosx: shevy: now textual. Usually I use weechat on a tmux session
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[20:00:24] ruby-lang280: Hello, I am looking to define a method that returns the area of a circle. I am getting an error, can someone please help me with this issue?
[20:00:41] ruby-lang280: what is the best way to get help with these issues?
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[20:01:56] ruby-lang280: def circle @pi = 3.1416 @r = params[:radius] @area = @pi*@radius**2 end
[20:02:09] ruby-lang280: NoMethodError in AreasController#circle undefined method `**' for nil:NilClass Extracted source (around line #10): 8 9 10 11 12 13 @pi = 3.1416 @r = params[:radius] @area = @pi*@radius**2 end def triangle
[20:02:39] ruby-lang280: This is what I am getting
[20:02:41] shevy: put your code on gist or another pastie
[20:03:52] ruby-lang280: https://gist.github.com/sqfmason/fe9316896da4c4850811
[20:04:25] ruby-lang280: sorry about that, here is the gist link
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[20:06:54] shevy: no that is not the code
[20:06:55] ruby-lang280: shevy did you see the code via gist?
[20:07:20] shevy: for instance params[:radius]
[20:07:27] shevy: so your code can not possibly work
[20:07:51] ruby-lang280: what is the way to fix this? I have tried many variations
[20:07:57] ruby-lang280: please guide me
[20:08:02] shevy: your code is not complete
[20:08:46] ruby-lang280: ill paste gist for code for square which is working
[20:09:07] ruby-lang280: https://gist.github.com/sqfmason/ef63c5484fbf847f7725
[20:09:14] ruby-lang280: this is the gist for square which is working
[20:09:53] shevy: https://gist.github.com/shevegen/4f2bc371069bc1da59d9
[20:10:04] BraddPitt: ruby-lang280 you are assigning radius to @r but on line 4 calling it @radius
[20:10:06] shevy: nope, your second code is not working
[20:10:12] shevy: do not make gists that are incomplete
[20:10:19] BraddPitt: you need to remain consistent with your variable names
[20:10:29] BraddPitt: otherwise, how would it know what you are referencing!
[20:11:50] ruby-lang280: I understand, when I put radius instead of @r it's still giving the same error.
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[20:17:09] ruby-lang280: can you please help me on fixing the code?
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[20:19:51] DEA7TH: Timestamps are awesome. And Colloquy displays them unobstructively, which wasn't necessary but is nice.
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[20:23:21] BraddPitt: ruby-lang280 then there must be no value for params[:radius] coming through
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[20:26:21] ruby-lang280: Request Parameters: {"radius"=>"3"}
[20:26:28] ruby-lang280: in the error log
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[20:27:17] ruby-lang280: it is getting radius parameter, its not running it however.
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[20:28:32] shevy: ruby-lang280 if this were true, then params[:radius] could not work because 'radius' is a string
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[20:34:31] ruby-lang280: I got it now :) I realized my error of not converting the string .to_f
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[21:03:15] havenwood: ruby-lang013: hi
[21:03:35] ruby-lang013: so is this the infamous "ruby IRC"
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[21:05:19] ruby-lang013: is anyone gonna talk about anything???
[21:05:46] goldfish2310: think you scared everyone off
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[21:06:51] goldfish2310: or offended them by calling the chan infamous
[21:07:06] ruby-lang013: this is my first time logging in to this IRC, just wanted to see what it is like
[21:07:20] ruby-lang013: im learning ruby and rails
[21:07:37] ruby-lang013: but i hear that this chat inst friendly to noobs, just wanted to see myself
[21:07:48] goldfish2310: helpful, generally, for people with precisely defined problems who post code
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[21:08:37] havenwood: ruby-lang013: how's the learning Rails going so far?
[21:09:19] ruby-lang013: been learning it for about a week, so im still trying to piece it together and understand the whats and whys
[21:09:34] ruby-lang013: going through the Odin Project
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[21:09:49] ruby-lang013: lookin to make a career switch in about a year...hopefully
[21:11:52] BraddPitt: Can someone explain how this line finds .gitignore without specifying a path? https://github.com/laserlemon/figaro/blob/master/lib/figaro/cli/install.rb#L22
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[21:12:09] havenwood: ruby-lang013: If you have any Ruby questions or need a code review this is a good place. There's a #RubyOnRails channel for Rails-specific stuff as well.
[21:12:42] ruby-lang013: well thanks guys, ill catch ya later
[21:12:55] ruboto_: Please join #RubyOnRails for Rails questions. You need to be identified with NickServ, see /msg NickServ HELP
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[21:15:40] havenwood: BraddPitt: Use File#exist? since File#exists? is deprecated. It just checks in the current working directory, right?
[21:15:56] havenwood: BraddPitt: I don't think I understand your question, say more?
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[21:21:07] BraddPitt: well a .gitignore is usually in the root of a dir. How is that method call supposedly finding the .gitignore if no path is supplied?
[21:21:51] jhass: should be relative to the current working directory
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[21:24:23] HoloIRCUser3: Has anyone use ruby to program sysadmin scripts?
[21:24:50] Coraline: That's how Ruby got started.
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[21:26:12] HoloIRCUser3: Coraline: So, you think it is good for that. Thanks
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[21:32:49] HoloIRCUser3: Coraline: i have to teach scir
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[21:33:57] HoloIRCUser3: Coraline: i have to teach scripting,but havent enoght time and must chose only one. So i decide choose ruby.
[21:34:35] zhkirill: Good choice
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[21:35:54] HoloIRCUser3: Zhkirill: thanks for your opinions. I must convince my colegees because they arent so comfortable with ruby
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[21:37:44] jhass: HoloIRCUser3: what's the alternative, plain old shell scripting? perl?
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[21:39:13] jhass: Ruby has fun stuff in stdlib for system scripting, for example https://github.com/ruby/ruby/blob/trunk/lib/un.rb#L9
[21:39:29] zhkirill: Python, which I don't really like.
[21:40:02] HoloIRCUser3: Jhass: I choose ruby but they told me to teach bash and powershell, but i havent enough time so i said ruby it could by good for several platforms..
[21:40:34] HoloIRCUser3: Thanks jhass for url
[21:41:34] jhass: and http://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.2.3/libdoc/fileutils/rdoc/FileUtils.html
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[21:43:25] HoloIRCUser3: Jhass: OK ,I see thanks.
[21:45:23] jhass: and many popular deployment/orchestration solutions are written in Ruby, https://github.com/markets/awesome-ruby#devops-tools
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[21:51:48] msyvich: Is there a Ruby equivalent of of Underscore???s ???pluck???? http://underscorejs.org/#pluck
[21:52:03] msyvich: I want the same field from all items of an array??? in a resulting array
[21:52:11] msyvich: from all hashes* in an array
[21:52:25] msyvich: w/o using a block if i don???t have to
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[21:53:55] jhass: .map {|h| h["foo"] } is as short as it gets really
[21:54:04] jhass: I believe recent ActiveSupport added pluck
[21:54:13] jhass: for array of hashes that is
[21:54:30] baweaver: that's an AR method
[21:54:35] jhass: read something somewhere, probably unreleased
[21:54:54] baweaver: there're probably a ton of Rails methods I don't know either way.
[21:55:06] msyvich: cool thanks jhass
[21:55:10] msyvich: the one liner isn???t so bad really
[21:55:18] jhass: baweaver: http://weblog.rubyonrails.org/2015/5/30/this-week-in-rails-enumerable-pluck-sqlite-collation-and-lots-more/
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[21:55:41] baweaver: well I'll be
[21:55:47] baweaver: ACTION remembers to use that later.
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