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[00:00:18] shevy: ah seems to be "arch" in RbConfig
[00:00:30] shevy: nope... "target_cpu"
[00:00:43] shevy: or "host_cpu" :D
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[00:22:08] volty: >> RUBY_PLATFORM
[00:22:09] ruby[bot]: volty: # => "i686-linux" (https://eval.in/510454)
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[00:26:36] volty: ops, ignore, it was target_cpu
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[00:29:06] volty: extending ruby with c, is there any conversion macro to be done on Float ?
[00:29:23] volty: s/done/applied/
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[00:32:05] Ox0dea: volty: How do you mean?
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[00:34:21] volty: Ox0dea: I got crazy with passing a Float to a qt lib that expects qreal. In the end I did it passing a string ( "%f" % the_num), and converted it on c's side with atof
[00:34:33] Ox0dea: volty: If you're wanting to go from a Ruby float to a C floating-point type, you want NUM2DBL().
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[00:35:38] volty: thx, I'll try that now. Now I have to pass back a qreal to a ruby float.
[00:35:51] volty: I suppose with DBL2NUM ?
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[00:36:15] Ox0dea: Depends on the definition of qreal, but it should do, yeah.
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[00:44:51] volty: damn, I messed so much, had an idiot decl on c's side, like void set_value(VALUE, qreal)"
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[00:52:01] volty: thx, all perfect now
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[01:11:56] bottiger: I have small ruby "hello world" script in utf-32. However, when I run it nothing is printed to stdout. "ruby s.rb" runs, but "ruby s.rb | hexdump" doesn't show anything
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[01:13:24] Ox0dea: bottiger: That's probably the BOM's fault.
[01:13:42] Ox0dea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte_order_mark
[01:13:55] bottiger: isn't that optional?
[01:14:24] Ox0dea: Er, sorry, the problem's probably your script.
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[01:14:41] Ox0dea: Are you sure it's actually printing anything?
[01:16:08] bottiger: Ox0dea: pretty sure :) here is it: http://imgur.com/hT6R7nh
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[01:17:17] volty: could be that it prints in black (can't see anything with those colours)
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[01:18:21] bottiger: volty: yeah, that screenshot turned out pretty bad :( but no, since I pipe the result into hexdump I should see whatever it prints
[01:19:30] volty: https://eval.in/private/3306b9b8de7ea4
[01:19:33] volty: same here
[01:20:58] volty: and it prints on stderr, of course
[01:21:30] bottiger: volty: hmm - I had that error in my shell before. I don't know why I doesn't see it now
[01:21:45] bottiger: volty: but you are of course right, something is not working
[01:22:12] Ox0dea: >> Encoding::UTF_32 # bottiger
[01:22:14] ruby[bot]: Ox0dea: # => #<Encoding:UTF-32 (dummy) (autoload)> (https://eval.in/510510)
[01:22:32] Ox0dea: The "(dummy)" would seem to indicate that UTF-32 is not currently supported.
[01:22:40] Ox0dea: Or that you're being silly for wanting to use it.
[01:23:28] bottiger: Ox0dea: I am aware this is silly. But it's a "for fun" project :)
[01:23:48] Ox0dea: Yes, I saw the name of the directory. :P
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[01:25:06] bottiger: but UTF-32BE seems to work, right?
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[01:40:19] YankNYC: hey everyone
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[01:56:04] Pintor: someone knows where can I see some codes made by another users (to take it as examples)?
[01:58:39] volty: not enough http://www.google.it/search?q=ruby+ruby+code+examples ?
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[01:59:24] Pintor: ... I feel some stupid, sorry, and thanks
[02:00:06] volty: ops, that's italian, here are the english ones https://www.google.it/search?q=ruby+code+examples // np :)
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[02:00:45] Pintor: I was finding it on Spanish, I don't know why never thought on English haha
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[02:01:38] volty: it's all the same, ruby non habla espagnol
[02:02:30] Pintor: I refer on Google, I was asking on spanish :P
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[12:51:46] Voyage: my redmine says Installed: 3.0~20140825-8 in ubuntu "apt-cache policy redmine" but 2.5 in url/redmine/information page. Any clue why?
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[12:57:30] Papierkorb: Voyage: please note that your question was cross-posted in #RubyOnRails. Everything else is unfair.
[12:58:46] Voyage: Papierkorb, ya, no one replied, I posted to another channel.
[12:59:22] Papierkorb: Voyage: the difference is *a single minute*. Have some patience. That is cross-posting.
[13:00:10] Voyage: not the single minute. I am asking since yesterday
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[13:04:22] apeiros: Voyage: it's irrelevant. when you cross-post, inform the channels that you're doing so.
[13:04:35] apeiros: regardless of how long you waited.
[13:04:55] Voyage: ACTION informs he is cross posting.
[13:04:59] Voyage: my redmine says Installed: 3.0~20140825-8 in ubuntu "apt-cache policy redmine" but 2.5 in url/redmine/information page. Any clue why?
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[13:05:26] Voyage: ACTION waits for shevy smile again
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[13:06:25] Papierkorb: Why are you using that outdated version anyway? Why are you not just downloading the current one yourself?
[13:06:28] shevy: I am sure the debian/ubuntu folks have some policy to follow pertaining to above oddities
[13:06:49] Voyage: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=783711
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[13:07:27] shevy: http://www.redmine.org/releases/?C=M;O=D
[13:07:32] shevy: wget http://www.redmine.org/releases/redmine-3.2.0.tar.gz
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[13:09:09] Voyage: thats a nightmare to install via .gz
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[13:57:52] shevy: meet the dependencies and everything works
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[14:06:27] Ox0dea: > meet the dependencies
[14:06:34] Ox0dea: Like it's just that easy to type `bundle`.
[14:08:54] jhass: well you never tried it for redmine I guess :P
[14:11:05] Ox0dea: I did, in fact, and everything went swimmingly.
[14:11:34] Ox0dea: Nokogiri and RMagick are the only potential hurdles, really.
[14:13:37] shevy: you have met the dependencies!!!
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[14:15:55] Ox0dea: Regarding the difficulty of typing `bundle`, "neurotoxicity" and "antiskepticism" are quite fun.
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[14:17:33] Ox0dea: The latter is the longest entry in words-insane that's typed with alternating hands, to clarify.
[14:18:10] Ox0dea: Try it; it's like dancing for your fingers.
[14:18:20] shevy: perhaps bundle is where Voyage has problems with
[14:20:03] lucasb: It's good that I'm an touch typist
[14:21:12] Voyage: shevy, no problems now
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[14:25:48] Ox0dea: words.reject &_.tr('qwertasdfgzxcvb', ?1).tr('^1', ?2).squeeze!
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[14:29:57] Ox0dea: Heh. http://tfd.com/sudorific
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[14:33:31] shevy: is this a better sudo?
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[14:39:23] lucasb: split qwerty: https://eval.in/510740
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[14:41:38] Ox0dea: That's pretty neat.
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[14:46:12] Ox0dea: Hey, a Pry bug! It treats `?\\` as a continuation even though it should immediately evaluate to "\\".
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[14:48:15] shevy: you really like the ? notation
[14:48:34] Ox0dea: It makes sense to have a character type and Ruby shouldn't've done away with the one it had. :(
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[14:48:52] Ox0dea: >> '' << 97 << 98 << 99
[14:48:54] ruby[bot]: Ox0dea: # => "abc" (https://eval.in/510744)
[14:48:59] Ox0dea: Oh, look! It still has one, why hide it?
[14:49:21] Ox0dea: >> '%c' % 'abc' rescue $!
[14:49:23] ruby[bot]: Ox0dea: # => #<ArgumentError: %c requires a character> (https://eval.in/510745)
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[14:57:36] Ox0dea: `when foo:` was genuinely bad, and it got removed, not deprecated.
[14:58:04] Ox0dea: The notion of "deprecated syntax" is silly on the whole, by my lights.
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[15:12:27] seydar: i've got a rack proxy sitting at :80 that redirects traffic to :4000-4006 based on subdomain http://lpaste.net/151314
[15:14:03] seydar: about once a day, it hangs and can't recover itself, and its logs are a mess http://lpaste.net/151316
[15:14:13] seydar: is there a better solution here?
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[15:16:42] Ox0dea: > suck less next time
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[15:19:37] seydar: Ox0dea: just tried that, all my problems went away. thank you!
[15:19:59] Ox0dea: seydar: It was your own advice, mate! :)
[15:21:13] seydar: that's why i give it out
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[18:18:37] pushrax: what's the absolute worst thing you could do in ruby if you can call any global method without any arguments?
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[18:19:05] jhass: what's a "global" method?
[18:19:17] apeiros: presumable an instance method on Kernel
[18:19:18] pushrax: on Kernel I suppose
[18:19:37] apeiros: next question: what's "bad" and what's "worse"?
[18:19:38] jhass: Kernel#spawn, Kernel#system, Kernel#exec
[18:19:42] pushrax: I can't come up with anything worse than abort or sleep
[18:19:47] pushrax: those require arguments jhass
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[18:20:36] pushrax: in a webapp I suppose sleep could be bad for tying up workers
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[18:20:52] apeiros: you're lacking a lot of context, pushrax
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[18:20:57] jhass: well, but why the question
[18:20:59] pushrax: yeah I know
[18:21:08] jhass: it's a serious issue that should be fixed
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[18:21:18] jhass: there's no considerations to be made to leave it unfixed
[18:21:24] pushrax: I realize that
[18:21:30] pushrax: it's not actually possible
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[18:21:42] pushrax: I'm just wondering if somehow Kernel was leaked to Liquid
[18:21:46] pushrax: it would be possible to do so
[18:22:23] jhass: if that was somehow possible, its design would be inherently broken
[18:22:29] jhass: for what it promises
[18:22:46] Zarthus: if you suspect such an issue to be present you should also probably be handling it with the devs in private.
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[18:23:21] pushrax: def to_liquid; {'foo' => Kernel}; end
[18:23:31] pushrax: I am one of the Liquid devs
[18:24:02] pushrax: In JS it's really easy to reference `window` but I don't think the same is true for Ruby and Kernel
[18:24:11] pushrax: (accidentally)
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[18:25:12] jhass: wait, it doesn't have a manual map from "functions" or whatever you call it to methods?
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[18:25:41] jhass: I'd expect something like {"foo" => -> { whatever } }
[18:25:56] apeiros: pushrax: hm? not knowing liquid - but generally you can always reference Kernel via ::Kernel
[18:26:06] pushrax: I don't follow jhass
[18:26:25] jhass: no send, when parsing the call do functions[parsed_thing].call
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[18:26:27] apeiros: and short of either having your own evaluator or a proper sandbox, there's nothing you could do against that - afaik.
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[18:26:54] pushrax: jhass: there is usually no send, but something I found makes it possible to send under very specific situations
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[18:27:24] apeiros: and one of the conditions of that situation is "no arguments can be passed"?
[18:27:28] jhass: yeah I mean I'd avoid using send at all in the codebase when I'd make the promises liquid makes
[18:27:46] pushrax: if you're using to_liquid and Liquid::Drop correctly then it's impossible to do anything bad
[18:27:53] pushrax: but yeah I agree
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[18:27:55] jhass: same for Kernel#eval and actually Kernel#spawn etc too
[18:27:59] pushrax: this should be fixed
[18:28:05] pushrax: well obviously lol
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[19:07:19] shevy: how do they build this? https://pakyow.org/docs/start/installing
[19:07:23] shevy: it reminds me of the crystal tutorial
[19:07:26] shevy: not sure if this is coincidence
[19:07:37] shevy: I mean the tutorial/layout thing, not the content :)
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[19:09:08] shevy: wheeee yorickpeterse used to do ruby-gtk! https://github.com/YorickPeterse/ruby-gtk3
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[20:02:59] yorickpeterse: shevy: heh yeah, back in the day I thought I could just write a GTK3 wrapper in Ruby
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[22:11:05] Glenboi: says hi to everybody in the room. All go here is it?
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[22:12:35] Ox0dea: Negative, Glenboi. Systems largely on standby due to weekend conditions. Radio silence for the next T-minus six hours.
[22:12:53] apeiros: ACTION was gonna say "go" had its own channel :D
[22:13:40] shevy: go go goboi
[22:14:20] Ox0dea: $ grep gogogo words
[22:14:21] Ox0dea: llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
[22:15:15] Glenboi: I agree Ox0dea
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[22:19:35] shevy: yo netcho
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[22:21:34] netcho: i'm havin a trouble building ruby app
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[22:21:42] netcho: here is my gem list
[22:21:45] netcho: http://paste.debian.net/377861/
[22:22:31] netcho: erro i get is http://paste.debian.net/377862/
[22:22:43] netcho: and this is the project
[22:22:45] netcho: https://github.com/awslabs/aws-codepipeline-jenkins-aws-codedeploy_linux
[22:23:36] netcho: i'm not a dev, just testing somw aws plugins
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[22:24:55] shevy: gem install haml
[22:25:05] netcho: it is installed
[22:25:12] netcho: u can see it on the gem list
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[22:25:45] netcho: shevy: haml (4.0.7)
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[22:26:18] shevy: then you must run more than one ruby
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[22:27:32] netcho: shevy: nope, just 1 ... http://paste.debian.net/377866/
[22:28:14] shevy: the /var/lib is nonstandard
[22:28:18] shevy: I guess you run some debian system
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[22:28:54] shevy: so you most likely must have two different gem locations
[22:29:03] netcho: shevy: nope again :) http://paste.debian.net/377867/
[22:29:39] Ox0dea: shevy: /var/lib isn't nonstandard.
[22:29:51] shevy: for gems?
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[22:31:15] shevy: I here have PREFIX/lib/ruby/gems/2.3.0/ ... have to go away from the computer for a while, be back in half an hour or so
[22:32:58] netcho: have no idea whay it's not workign
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[22:38:29] Atomic_LduoX: hi. any way to obfuscate a string except first and last character with gsub? like "a string" to "a *****g"
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[22:42:48] monoprotic: what about the space
[22:45:04] Atomic_LduoX: except the space too
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[22:46:29] Atomic_LduoX: ya. any space
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[22:48:11] baweaver: >> def obfuscate(str) str[0] + str[1..-2].gsub(/\w/, '*') + str[-1] end; obfuscate 'a string'
[22:48:12] ruby[bot]: baweaver: # => "a *****g" (https://eval.in/510831)
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[22:48:53] Ox0dea: That's not obfuscation; that's just plain hiding.
[22:49:20] baweaver: ACTION is half asleep still
[22:52:56] Atomic_LduoX: thank you baweaver
[22:54:40] Ox0dea: >> 'a string'.gsub(/(?!\A)\S(?!\z)/, ?*) # doin' it proper-like
[22:54:41] ruby[bot]: Ox0dea: # => "a *****g" (https://eval.in/510837)
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[23:14:26] ruby-lang782: Hi, I am looking for a ruby library that would monitor live stream video, the task is to monitor live stream; been looking for days with no success. Please can anyone suggest, Thanks in advance.
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[23:28:16] volty: >> v && !(v = !v) && puts(:hi)
[23:28:17] ruby[bot]: volty: # => undefined local variable or method `v' for main:Object ...check link for more (https://eval.in/510846)
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[23:28:27] volty: >> v = true; v && !(v = !v) && puts(:hi)
[23:28:28] ruby[bot]: volty: # => hi ...check link for more (https://eval.in/510847)
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[23:29:27] Ox0dea: Looks fine?
[23:29:28] volty: 1) how to get rid of warning when using it with if 2) anything simpler to 'fire' just once ?
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[23:29:43] volty: Ox0dea: fine? not at all
[23:29:50] Ox0dea: It's not a surprising result.
[23:30:12] volty: no, I want the result, but i want something simpler
[23:30:37] volty: something like OnlyOnceTrue :)
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[23:33:02] Ox0dea: I'm afraid I don't follow.
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[23:35:22] volty: asynchronous code (btw), I have booleans that I have to test against for true and set to false -> do_it() if @tick && !(@tick = false)
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[23:36:35] volty: Looks ugly. I was wondering if there could be something nicer.
[23:36:42] Ox0dea: `&& !(@tick = false)` is just... `true`.
[23:36:45] baweaver: Singleton, but async in Ruby is a horrid idea.
[23:37:11] Ox0dea: Oh, I see how you mean, though.
[23:37:35] Ox0dea: Use 1 and 0 and `^= 1` to oscillate. :)
[23:37:37] volty: baweaver: I tried & mastered that on my skin :)
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[23:37:57] apeiros: TrueClass#^ and FalseClass#^ exist too
[23:37:58] baweaver: ACTION blinks
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[23:38:03] apeiros: >> true ^ false
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[23:38:04] ruby[bot]: apeiros: # => true (https://eval.in/510848)
[23:38:42] baweaver: ACTION doesn't get the mastered bit at all.
[23:38:51] apeiros: and I should have made my example with `^ true` for consistency
[23:38:52] Ox0dea: It puts the Masters on its skin.
[23:39:09] volty: thx apeiros
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[23:39:27] apeiros: baweaver: basically XOR can be used to toggle a value
[23:39:33] baweaver: I know that
[23:39:45] baweaver: more of what the tried & mastered on my skin bit meant
[23:39:53] apeiros: ah, ok. misunderstood your comment then :)
[23:39:58] baweaver: so it goes.
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[23:40:04] Ox0dea: Pooteeweet.
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[23:41:20] volty: sorry, it's italish.
[23:41:33] volty: ('on my skin')
[23:41:33] Ox0dea: Engalian.
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[23:50:17] Ox0dea: baweaver: "I know that pain."
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[23:55:22] Ox0dea: "On my skin" ~= "been there, with the scar to prove it".
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