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[00:03:00] amincd: smathy: so is there a way around it?
[00:04:05] smathy: amincd, many ways, yes. More context required.
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[00:04:44] amincd: smathy: I want the new line to output when the program does the 'p IO.binread("filename")' from above
[00:05:17] smathy: amincd, that's repeating what you said, not providing more context.
[00:05:30] amincd: what kind of context should I provide?
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[00:07:03] smathy: Nevermind, just do io.flush before your read.
[00:07:12] amincd: smathy: thanks
[00:07:17] Radar: amincd: Why are you using IO.new wrapped around IO.sysopen instead of doing File.open + f.write?
[00:07:32] smathy: ACTION deserves no thanks, goes to shower
[00:07:36] amincd: Radar: because I was ignorant of those methods
[00:07:40] Radar: amincd: Oh ok
[00:08:01] Radar: amincd: try this: https://gist.github.com/radar/d429a77a8d4d8b2a7a52494b41b6df51
[00:08:25] Radar: amincd: And then you can read the file with File.read instead of IO.binread.
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[00:08:49] amincd: Radar: thanks
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[01:18:52] p1k: does anyone have experience with custom ruby-build scripts using rbenv?
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[01:33:06] p1k: what are the options other than valgrind for debugging memory-leaks?
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[06:32:42] roelof: What is wrong here : output += "[#{key}] \" #{@entries[ #{key} ] \" \n" I get here a syntax error that ] is expected ?
[06:34:02] roelof: and when I do this : output += "[#{key}] \" #{@entries[key]} \" \n" I see this error : TypeError: no implicit conversion of String into Integer
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[06:37:09] roelof: and here the whole code : https://gist.github.com/rwobben/275320b73742b8651ca71af56e560b01
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[06:48:45] roelof: nobody who can help me ?
[06:51:53] tobiasvl: roelof: key is a string, not an int, and @entries is an array which needs ints as indices
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[06:52:47] tobiasvl: hm no entries is a hash hmm
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[07:27:45] roelof: sorry, my internet broke down
[07:28:06] roelof: anyone who can tell me why this is not working : output += "[#{key}] \" #{entries[key]} \" \n"
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[07:29:50] roelof: entries is a hash
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[07:31:39] UniFreak: I switched gem source to https://ruby.taobao.org/ (because I can't connect to rubygems.org). but when I was trying to install bundler, here is the error output: http://paste.linux.chat/view/8fb031f2
[07:31:57] UniFreak: what's going on? seems some problem with ssl verification, what should I do?
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[07:33:19] p1k: does anyone have experience running valgrind with ruby?
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[07:38:39] nofxx: UniFreak, try http instead of https
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[07:39:27] norc: asm>> output += "[#{key}] \" #{entries[key]} \" \n" # roelof
[07:39:28] UniFreak: ruby.taobao.org stopped serving via http
[07:39:29] ruby[bot]: norc: I have disassembled your code, the result is at https://eval.in/561069
[07:39:32] nofxx: UniFreak, also, soon someone will say it, so: use linux
[07:39:49] norc: roelof: The code compiles fine for me. If this gives you problems please gist a complete test case and/or the full stack trace.
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[07:40:03] norc: p1k: Some. Why?
[07:40:24] UniFreak: I searched a little, seems upgrade gem to 2.6.3 will solve this problem, and I found that `gem update --system '2.6.3'` is meant to do that
[07:40:48] UniFreak: ironically, because the https problem, this command won't run
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[07:41:00] UniFreak: any other way to update gem?
[07:41:20] roelof: norc: then I see this message : no implicit conversion of String into Integer as I said earlier
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[07:41:35] norc: roelof: Stack trace please.
[07:41:47] norc: roelof: I did not ask for an error message, but a complete stack trace.
[07:42:00] roelof: oke, moment
[07:42:02] norc: Error messages are seldom useful as they only make sense in some form of context.
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[07:43:20] roelof: oke, moment, I only have the rspec output now
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[07:43:59] norc: UniFreak: There is a self signed certificate in the chain.
[07:44:11] norc: UniFreak: rubygems is right to not let you do this.
[07:44:17] p1k: norc: I'm having some issues with the max-stackframe and a few others (like using an rbenv ruby since those are shimmed and exec'd via bash)
[07:44:31] p1k: if you know how to handle some of these things that would be super helpful
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[07:47:48] roelof: norc : still one moment, I have some trouble to use the printable function here : http://lpaste.net/161702
[07:48:01] roelof: entry.printable does not work :(
[07:48:03] norc: UniFreak: https://github.com/alibaba/ruby.taobao.org/issues/54
[07:48:13] norc: UniFreak: Assuming you speak (or read rather) Chinese.
[07:48:24] UniFreak: norc: I checked that
[07:48:36] UniFreak: it suggest to update gem to 2.6.3
[07:49:06] UniFreak: hence now I'm asking what's other way to update gem, without using gem self
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[07:49:41] norc: roelof: your method "keywords" transforms your instance variable into an array, that is the source of your problem.
[07:50:04] roelof: norc: here the stack trace : http://lpaste.net/161703
[07:50:15] norc: roelof: https://eval.in/561076
[07:50:18] norc: By the way, really useful tool.
[07:50:31] norc: You can show code, execute and demonstrate an error all in one. :)
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[07:50:52] norc: roelof: Anyhow, do not let your keywords assignt to @entries and you should be good.
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[07:50:58] roelof: oke, and how can I solve this ?
[07:51:15] norc: roelof: Which part of that did you not understand?
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[07:51:38] roelof: sorry : you type faster then I can read
[07:51:44] norc: p1k: As for rbenv, I simply do not use rbenv to begin with. Both rbenv and rvm are intrusive hacks that just create all kinds of problems.
[07:52:22] roelof: norc: thanks, that error has disappeared
[07:53:11] p1k: norc: managing ruby versions yourself also creates problems - no? but that aside I can setup the paths manually in this case
[07:53:26] norc: p1k: chruby is the least intrusive and most manageable way currently.
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[07:54:26] p1k: I'll check it out
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[07:54:56] roelof: norc: and the challenge is solved :)
[07:55:25] norc: roelof: I recommend you take a look at byebug.
[07:55:45] norc: roelof: It is an incredibly useful tool to debug pretty much any kind of bug/error in ruby.
[07:56:04] roelof: norc: oke, I will take a look at it
[07:56:14] roelof: and look how it works
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[08:08:35] norc: Ox0dea: You know what would be fancy, if we could change the value of self.
[08:09:05] norc: I so want to do things like swap(self, this) :S
[08:09:27] norc: Or rather: this, self = self, this
[08:09:48] nofxx: norc, just use js for that kind of fun
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[08:10:27] norc: nofxx: In JavaScript this is just a boring variable.
[08:10:42] norc: I want another way to change the default definee
[08:10:49] nofxx: open a class
[08:11:07] nofxx: well, it changes self =D
[08:11:09] norc: Granted, I can just do class << foo
[08:11:20] p1k: norc: I have huge amounts of definetly lost blocks -- I'm guessing there is some false positives
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[08:11:56] p1k: or are the heuristic checks that are going to be cruby 2.2.0+ speific which valgrind isn't covering by default
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[08:23:16] ffgghhj: hi, i have padrino site , haow can i run ruby script form this site?
[08:23:35] ffgghhj: hi, i have padrino site , how can i run ruby script from this site?
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[08:39:19] andromedian: disease.presence && disease.name (I think abusing the && operator here is probably not the right decision, people would generally expect this statement to return true, rather than the value of the second object.) what does this code review wants me to change?
[08:39:23] andromedian: I don't get this
[08:39:51] apeiros: the .presence there is superfluous
[08:39:53] adaedra: if you're using ruby 2.3, disease&.name could be a shorter solution
[08:40:19] adaedra: but yeah, the .presence does not seem useful
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[08:40:31] adaedra: what's the possible type of disease?
[08:40:44] apeiros: in pre 2.3 ruby, `foo && foo.bar` is a common idiom. so fine for code review.
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[08:41:29] adaedra: also, if you're using Rails like you seem to be, another idiom would be disease.try(:name)
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[08:42:52] apeiros: the one thing I dislike about try is `"weee".try(:this_method_does_not_exist) # => nil`
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[08:43:18] apeiros: (yes, I know there's try!, but people default to try)
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[08:43:46] adaedra: yeah – &. and Object#try are different things in conception. &. tests for `nil`, try uses `respond_to?`.
[08:44:07] apeiros: &. is another beast altogether, since it's capable of shortcutting
[08:44:15] apeiros: no method based solution can
[08:44:25] apeiros: and no, try does not use respond_to?
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[08:44:40] apeiros: wait, maybe it does. but it doesn't raise.
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[08:45:39] adaedra: try!(*a, &b) if a.empty? || respond_to?(a.first) # try
[08:47:17] apeiros: I don't think that's accurate
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[08:47:33] apeiros: the a.empty? branch is for the block form
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[12:05:59] p1k: so anyone have an idea how to get valgrind to work w/ ruby 2.2+
[12:06:23] p1k: I've compiled with -g -O0 --with-valgrind but the output is a mass of false positives for lost reference / probably lost reference
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[12:14:48] _mak: is it possible to convert a base27 to string?
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[12:16:19] Ox0dea: _mak: Pardon? Surely your base-27 is already a string?
[12:16:46] _mak: Ox0dea: I mean, string as a word, sorry
[12:16:53] Ox0dea: >> '1f'.to_i(27) # _mak
[12:16:54] ruby[bot]: Ox0dea: # => 42 (https://eval.in/561447)
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[12:18:25] _mak: Ox0dea: I have the base-27 but I want to convert it to text...
[12:18:28] _mak: makes sense?
[12:18:32] Ox0dea: _mak: Nope.
[12:18:51] _mak: Ox0dea: :D sorry... let me try to explain it better
[12:18:57] Ox0dea: _mak: Please do. :)
[12:19:01] Ox0dea: Example input and output would be great.
[12:19:32] _mak: Ox0dea: 223230203203224 <- this is an english word converted to base27 using these online converters
[12:19:51] _mak: Ox0dea: I want to convert it back to the word, if that makes sense
[12:19:51] Ox0dea: >> 223230203203224.to_s 27 # _mak: Are you sure?
[12:19:52] ruby[bot]: Ox0dea: # => "127ag4i85q3" (https://eval.in/561453)
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[12:22:24] _mak: Ox0dea: ok, so to convert from any base I can use to_s [base nr]?
[12:22:39] Ox0dea: _mak: So long as `nr` is between 2 and 36 inclusive, aye.
[12:22:45] toretore: he probably means base27 as in base64
[12:23:13] _mak: Ox0dea: thank's mate
[12:23:16] Arahael: Ox0dea: fractional bases, too? ;)
[12:23:25] Ox0dea: _mak: No worries.
[12:23:26] Ox0dea: arahael: You stop that.
[12:23:53] Ox0dea: arahael: It's a perfectly well-defined operation, mind, but I don't know offhand of any languages that support it.
[12:24:01] _mak: toretore: I actually saw it here: http://wolfenhex.com/flash/inary.shtml
[12:24:05] adaedra: ACTION converts Ox0dea to base 27
[12:24:06] _mak: if you put 7 as base
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[12:24:13] _mak: you get the string
[12:24:24] Arahael: Ox0dea: fair call. no common ones, though matlab and the like probably do.
[12:24:24] _mak: but it probably becomes something else before
[12:24:25] Ox0dea: adaedra: 4 NP is so few NP. :(
[12:26:13] Arahael: Ox0dea: but curious: the 2-36 range is the same as python.
[12:26:25] Ox0dea: arahael: 10 + 26
[12:26:51] adaedra: We could include emoji and go way over base 36.
[12:27:13] Ox0dea: Someone did a positional number system using all of UTF-8.
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[12:27:17] adaedra: 12💩Z3U😂N
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[12:27:44] _mak: Ox0dea: https://eval.in/561465 if I use base 7 here http://wolfenhex.com/flash/inary.shtml and use that number I get the word 'sweet' back
[12:27:44] Arahael: Ox0dea: it's obvious now!
[12:27:54] _mak: what am I missing?
[12:28:29] Arahael: Ox0dea: yep, base 65564 or something, so that they could get as mucn data into a single twitter, i think.
[12:29:17] al2o3-cr: i hear, there was a base 127
[12:29:18] adaedra: All I get is "Missing plug-in"
[12:29:41] Ox0dea: _mak: That converter is a Flash applet, so I can't see the code to know what they're doing wrong, but they most certainly are.
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[12:29:48] Ox0dea: The only valid digits in base 7 are 0 to 6.
[12:29:59] Arahael: ACTION gets to bed before he unintentionally annoys anyone else.
[12:30:06] al2o3-cr: no, i hear 127
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[12:30:58] apeiros: Ox0dea: I use ZPWTFGM for my base 7 needs. it's more confusing than digits.
[12:31:17] Ox0dea: _mak: In any case, I've discovered what they're doing.
[12:31:28] _mak: Ox0dea: what?
[12:31:38] Ox0dea: It's pretty dumb.
[12:32:01] Ox0dea: >> %w[223 230 203 203 224].map { |s| s.to_i(7).chr } # _mak
[12:32:02] ruby[bot]: Ox0dea: # => ["s", "w", "e", "e", "t"] (https://eval.in/561479)
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[12:32:28] adaedra: We could use 0️⃣-9️⃣ as base too.
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[12:32:46] Ox0dea: >> 'sweet'.chars.map { |c| c.ord.to_s 7 }.join # _mak
[12:32:48] ruby[bot]: Ox0dea: # => "223230203203224" (https://eval.in/561480)
[12:33:04] adaedra: al2o3-cr: If I add 1 to your number, I obtain -128 D:
[12:33:20] al2o3-cr: adaedra: 127 only
[12:33:28] Ox0dea: _mak: In the final analysis, just somebody who doesn't quite understand how positional number systems work. :P
[12:33:39] igam: Well, What I like as number system, is a number system with both positive and negative digits.
[12:33:43] _mak: Ox0dea: oh! I see...
[12:33:53] _mak: Ox0dea: thanks for that
[12:33:57] Ox0dea: Sure thing.
[12:34:03] _mak: I would have never find that out
[12:34:16] Ox0dea: Please learn nothing from this except not to do that.
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[12:34:37] Ox0dea: I won't science it out just now, but it's almost certainly not resistant to collisions.
[12:34:41] al2o3-cr: how many integers in 8bit puter
[12:34:49] Ox0dea: How many integers?
[12:35:23] al2o3-cr: adaedra: one fourth of what?
[12:36:24] al2o3-cr: ACTION need some milk
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[12:38:47] al2o3-cr: how many sixteeths go into one eighth
[12:38:58] al2o3-cr: *sixteenths
[12:40:04] al2o3-cr: i'd say 127
[12:40:13] Ox0dea: al2o3-cr: You made me discover that my dictionary has "heighth".
[12:41:14] Ox0dea: I'm not happy about this.
[12:41:22] Ox0dea: $ grep hth$ /usr/share/dict/words-insane | paste -sd ' '
[12:41:23] al2o3-cr: can't splat an s
[12:41:25] Ox0dea: arishth eighth heighth highth ichth
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[12:41:56] al2o3-cr: words-insane heh
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[12:43:18] al2o3-cr: grep mt Ox0dea
[12:43:32] Ox0dea: I don't understand the question.
[12:44:13] al2o3-cr: grep 'mt' out of your dict
[12:44:29] Ox0dea: I don't want tot.
[12:45:00] Ox0dea: Do you want tot?
[12:45:18] Ox0dea: I'll save them for later, then.
[12:45:22] Ox0dea: I know you'll want tot later.
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[12:47:49] al2o3-cr: Ox0dea: wc -l /usr/share/dict/words-insane ?????
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[12:48:08] Ox0dea: al2o3-cr: 675259
[12:48:16] Ox0dea: It's great.
[12:48:19] adaedra: only english words?
[12:48:24] Ox0dea: And loanwords.
[12:48:32] igam: Scan the Internet, collect words.
[12:48:39] Ox0dea: It's got "étude" and such.
[12:48:54] adaedra: Scam the internet, collect worlds.
[12:48:59] al2o3-cr: must be on loan
[12:49:03] Ox0dea: al2o3-cr: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/words-insane
[12:49:08] Ox0dea: adaedra: ^
[12:49:14] igam: adaedra: :-)
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[12:49:27] Ox0dea: igam: We're not supposed to capitalize it anymore.
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[12:50:02] adaedra: Should we talk about the iNTERNET?
[12:50:12] Ox0dea: http://www.poynter.org/2016/ap-style-change-alert-dont-capitalize-internet-and-web-any-more/404664/
[12:50:18] Ox0dea: But I like yours too.
[12:50:44] al2o3-cr: shit happens
[12:51:07] al2o3-cr: sometimes you get a nose bleed
[12:51:10] Ox0dea: "Haste makes waste."
[12:51:33] al2o3-cr: only in a corner, shake it off
[12:51:41] adaedra: (By the way, I see we've moved completely offtopic)
[12:51:49] Ox0dea: Mods are asleep.
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[12:54:27] jameshyde: why I could not see 2.0.0.rc2 via command "gem search -all mini_portile2 -r"??
[12:54:52] jameshyde: is it because "rc" releases would not be available via "gem" command?
[12:55:00] al2o3-cr: it's dead jim
[12:55:18] adaedra: should be, but maybe not by default
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[12:56:46] Ox0dea: jameshyde: You'll need the --prerelease flag.
[12:57:14] adaedra: got it through `gem search mini_portile2 -r --all --pre`
[12:57:46] al2o3-cr: ACTION claps
[12:58:03] Ox0dea: adaedra: You can even just say `--p`, but probably don't.
[12:58:18] adaedra: I always saw it as --pre.
[12:58:35] Ox0dea: Seems plenty reasonable.
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[13:00:00] al2o3-cr: just bought four chickens 10.98
[13:00:47] al2o3-cr: >> 10.98.fdiv(4)
[13:00:48] ruby[bot]: al2o3-cr: # => 2.745 (https://eval.in/561527)
[13:01:04] al2o3-cr: can't be bad
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[13:04:31] anagha_: How can we use string slipt on the string 'this is the string case' so that i can get each substring
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[13:06:20] adaedra: what is a substring for you? Each word?
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[13:07:56] Ox0dea: >> 'this is the string case'.split /[\Wow!]/
[13:07:57] ruby[bot]: Ox0dea: # => ["this", "is", "the", "string", "case"] (https://eval.in/561545)
[13:08:16] adaedra: tssk tssk tssk.
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[13:08:49] adaedra: Ox0dea: please at least begin by a suitable solution.
[13:09:19] anagha_: it works.Thanks
[13:09:34] anagha_: was little confused with string#split
[13:10:15] adaedra: anagha_: you can split on \b (that would retain the spaces in separate elements if you need them) or \W (depends of your input)
[13:10:16] toretore: >> 'wow this is the string case'.split /[\Wow!]/
[13:10:18] ruby[bot]: toretore: # => ["", "", "", "", "this", "is", "the", "string", "case"] (https://eval.in/561553)
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[13:10:49] adaedra: \s should also work.
[13:11:20] adaedra: String#split can take a Regexp, if you didn't see.
[13:12:14] apeiros: >> "hägar genügt \\W nicht".split(/\W/)
[13:12:15] ruby[bot]: apeiros: # => ["h", "gar", "gen", "gt", "", "W", "nicht"] (https://eval.in/561562)
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[13:12:45] apeiros: (translation: \W is insufficient for hägar)
[13:13:33] apeiros: but that's where we're back to "what's a substring" (or now: "what's a word?")
[13:14:00] adaedra: hence my "depends on the input"
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[13:14:39] anagha_: .split will split words..then how can we split into letters.?
[13:14:44] adaedra: >> "hello world".split /\s/
[13:14:45] ruby[bot]: adaedra: # => ["hello world"] (https://eval.in/561564)
[13:14:59] adaedra: anagha_: for letters you can use .chars directly.
[13:15:24] adaedra: >> "hello world".split /\b/
[13:15:25] ruby[bot]: adaedra: # => ["hello", " ", "world"] (https://eval.in/561565)
[13:15:38] adaedra: I suppose \b use the \w definition of a "word".
[13:16:14] adaedra: anagha_: but actually, String#split will split on everything you tell it to.
[13:16:29] adaedra: Not only words.
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[13:16:58] anagha_: what is the significance of the symbol / / given after split expression?
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[13:17:20] anagha_: I tried String#split.but it gives error
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[13:17:30] adaedra: it's a regexp.
[13:17:37] adaedra: >> //.class
[13:17:38] ruby[bot]: adaedra: # => Regexp (https://eval.in/561567)
[13:17:48] |2701: if I had "sentence. question? exlaim! another sentence." and I wanted to get an array ["sentence.", "question?","exclaim!", "another sentence." what's the easiest way?
[13:17:56] |2701: I tried using slice when, but I must be doing it wrong.
[13:18:04] adaedra: You may want to read up on those. They're a bit hard to take your hands on but are a very good tool.
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[13:18:25] adaedra: Everyone is word splitting today?
[13:18:41] adaedra: |2701: Use String#split with split on spaces
[13:19:17] |2701: and then how can I group them back up?
[13:19:36] adaedra: Array#join
[13:19:53] apeiros: adaedra: fails the "another sentence."
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[13:20:06] adaedra: didn't see it.
[13:20:10] Ox0dea: >> "sentence. question? exlaim! another sentence.".scan /\w[\w ]+[?!.]/ # |2701
[13:20:11] ruby[bot]: Ox0dea: # => ["sentence.", "question?", "exlaim!", "another sentence."] (https://eval.in/561574)
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[13:20:13] Ox0dea: Something like that, anyway.
[13:20:14] |2701: I just got it with slice_when, I didn't realize it's before and after that's being passed
[13:20:23] |2701: Thanks anyways
[13:20:31] Ox0dea: Ah, yeah, #slice_when would do.
[13:20:32] apeiros: use \p{L}, not \w
[13:20:55] adaedra: apeiros: you mean there are other letters than A-Z? Shocking.
[13:21:06] adaedra: Were do you live, Europe?
[13:21:19] |2701: sure wish I could avoid b == "?" || b == "." || b == "!" though, is there a better way
[13:21:23] adaedra: In which state is this?
[13:21:40] adaedra: |2701: Ox0dea gave you a shorter way, look above.
[13:21:52] |2701: I'm trying to avoid regex
[13:21:59] Ox0dea: |2701: Because why?
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[13:22:01] |2701: I wish String#split took a block
[13:22:13] |2701: Because I'm not writing perl today
[13:22:27] adaedra: Not only perl uses regexp.
[13:22:42] |2701: I've always thought regex to be a shim rather than a solution
[13:22:49] Ox0dea: Welp, that's pretty dumb.
[13:22:53] Ox0dea: It's a mini-language.
[13:23:00] adaedra: Anyway, you can do what you want with `"?.!".chars.any? { |c| b == c }`
[13:23:08] |2701: It's a mini-grammar. Regex is not turing complete
[13:23:12] adaedra: but yeah, regexp are a good thing to use.
[13:23:18] Ox0dea: |2701: That's an implementation detail.
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[13:23:38] Ox0dea: adaedra: That could be `"?!."[b]`, but probably don't.
[13:23:59] adaedra: i'm stupid.
[13:24:06] adaedra: "?!.".include? b
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[13:43:33] p1k: any idea what this is from? `<module:RbConfig>': ruby lib version (2.4.0) doesn't match executable version (2.2.4)
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[13:44:50] |2701: how do you have ruby 2.4?
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[13:45:45] p1k: I don't
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[13:47:37] shevy: how peculiar
[13:47:40] p1k: I see https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/11944 but I'm trying to compile 1.9.3 so that patch wouldn't even seem to apply
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[13:48:03] adaedra: why are you trying to get such a dinosaur?
[13:48:08] p1k: do you actually need ruby to compile ruby O_o ?
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[13:48:36] p1k: adaedra: because I can't get valgrind to work on 2.2.4 and according to old obscure resources it did work at one point, so I'd like to at least see if that's the case
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[13:48:59] adaedra: Also, the patch I see above concerns an obscure compiler
[13:49:03] p1k: yes there is a --with-valgrind flag, but no it's not enough
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[13:49:50] p1k: adaedra: oh I missed that, yeah that shouldn't be relevant
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[13:59:31] anagha_: 'RubyMonk Is Pretty Brilliant'.match(/ ./) .This returns the character after the first whitespace only.How to get characters near to next whitespace and how to get characters near to all whitespaces?
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[14:09:20] adaedra: &ri String#scan
[14:09:20] `derpy: http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.3.0/String.html#method-i-scan
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[14:13:26] anagha_: yeah..worked .thanks :0
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[14:15:53] anagha_: If precisely i want the char after second whitespace,what should be the modification given? when i searched ,i saw an interger given after the whitespace symbol in RegExp.But have little doubt in that.
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[14:16:30] Ox0dea: anagha_: Just so you know, this is what :0 looks like in my head: http://i.imgur.com/wkr8ZPH.jpg
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[14:18:03] anagha_: haha.That was funny.
[14:18:40] anagha_: Ok.I will make it clear
[14:19:11] Ox0dea: Example input and expected output.
[14:19:22] Ox0dea: This is how to make programmers give you the answer.
[14:19:32] Ox0dea: They're supposed to teach you this during onboarding.
[14:19:40] anagha_: input: "I want the candles near the table".
[14:19:54] anagha_: output : t
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[14:20:37] Ox0dea: Ogod, he's got a lazer!
[14:20:49] anagha_: What?Didn't get that
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[14:21:01] Ox0dea: adaedra is shoopin' da whoop.
[14:21:01] adaedra: nvm, that was for Ox0dea
[14:21:26] adaedra: Stop disrupting the channel, adaedra
[14:21:33] ruby[bot]: don't be mean to adaedra
[14:21:42] |2701: >> "a string with spaces".split("").each_cons(2).select {|a,b| a == " " && b != " "}
[14:22:17] Ox0dea: |2701: Never say `.split("")` again; it's just `.chars`.
[14:22:30] |2701: I always forget about .chars
[14:22:47] Ox0dea: I remember it being one of the first things I liked about Ruby.
[14:22:55] shevy: yah it's a question of time! it was sneakily added one day... and then, it was just there
[14:22:57] adaedra: so `a.scan(/ [^ ]/)`?
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[14:23:45] ruby[bot]: adaedra: I don't know anything about regexp
[14:23:54] shevy: so many question marks
[14:24:05] ruby[bot]: Resources for regular expressions: http://ruby-doc.org/core/Regexp.html || http://rubular.com/ || http://www.regular-expressions.info
[14:24:33] adaedra: anagha_: take a look at links above for explanations on regexes ^
[14:24:37] |2701: ?skynet_secret_plans
[14:24:48] shevy: the bot does not like you
[14:24:54] Ox0dea: |2701: Attempting to invoke the Singularity is a bannable offense.
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[14:25:28] |2701: ?terminator_t1000_blueprints
[14:25:28] ruby[bot]: |2701: I don't know anything about terminator_t1000_blueprints
[14:25:52] |2701: should we be weary?
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[14:26:00] Ox0dea: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[14:26:03] adaedra: the bot responds to pms too, fwiw.
[14:26:12] |2701: I'll investigate further
[14:26:16] Ox0dea: Godspeed.
[14:26:53] ruby[bot]: adaedra: I don't know anything about facts
[14:27:11] ruby[bot]: you can find an overview of the factoids I know about at http://ruby-community.com/ruboto/facts
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[14:28:30] Ox0dea: The part where I can't sort by uses is the best.
[14:28:40] ruby[bot]: You think this is broken, could be done better, or have a good feature idea? Submit an issue on the concerned project, or even better, fix it and submit a Pull Request! ;)
[14:29:20] |2701: ruby bot stopped responding to my PM's, presumably to avoid self-incrimination
[14:29:37] Ox0dea: "guys", "rails", then "ot".
[14:29:41] Ox0dea: Sounds about right.
[14:29:42] adaedra: there's a use limits
[14:30:05] adaedra: ACTION starts fighting with his keyboard
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[14:38:49] shevy: adaedra hit it real good!!!
[14:39:13] adaedra: it's no use, it won already.
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[14:51:49] venkata: C:/Ruby23-x64/lib/ruby/2.3.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb:127:in `require': cannot load such file -- ffi_c (LoadE rror)
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[14:52:06] bazz_: is there a difference between defining a class "Class module1::module2::ClassName" vs. "module module1 ; module module2 ; class ClassName" ?
[14:52:09] venkata: i dont have idea whats this
[14:52:16] venkata: but i am facing error
[14:52:54] Hanmac: bazz_: its about the nesting and what constants are available
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[14:53:17] venkata: i downloaded devkit 64-bit and ruby installer 64bit
[14:53:22] venkata: but still the issue "C:/Ruby23-x64/lib/ruby/2.3.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb:127:in `require': cannot load such file -- ffi_c (LoadE rror)"
[14:53:24] bazz_: hanmac, where can I learn about that? Is there a term you can provide me please?
[14:53:28] venkata: pls help me out guys
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[14:54:07] Hanmac: bazz_: http://ruby-doc.org/core/Module.html#method-c-nesting
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[14:55:27] Hanmac: bazz_: and this: http://docs.ruby-lang.org/en/2.1.0/syntax/modules_and_classes_rdoc.html#label-Nesting
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[14:56:36] Hanmac: bazz_: and this fore more about the nesting: http://docs.ruby-lang.org/en/2.1.0/syntax/modules_and_classes_rdoc.html#label-Constants
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[14:57:06] bazz_: hanmac, thanks
[14:57:16] sharkman: how would i split a string on capital letters?
[14:57:41] Hanmac: sharkman: can you give an example of input and wanted output?
[14:57:42] sharkman: so Online would return ["Online"], and TheStuffThere would return ["The", "Stuff", "There"]
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[14:59:09] tribals: i read ruby style guide from here https://github.com/bbatsov/ruby-style-guide, it says to always use parens when call methods, but i think predicate methods (like `include?`) looks ugly when called with parens, is it?
[14:59:30] tribals: `%w(a b c).include?('a')`
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[14:59:50] sharkman: what do you think hanmac? i tried doing it with a regex match but it doesnt look great.
[15:00:02] tribals: and `%w(a b c).include? 'a'` - much more readable, no?
[15:00:18] Ox0dea: tribals: Yes.
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[15:00:47] tribals: so, which of two you prefer?
[15:01:09] sharkman: i personally prefer the use of parenthesis but thats just what im used to
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[15:01:24] dfockler: once you have a lot of arguments or nested function calls I like having parens to be more clear about what's going on
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[15:01:53] Hanmac: >> "TheStuffThere".scan(/([A-Z\d]+)([A-Z][a-z])/)
[15:01:55] ruby[bot]: hanmac: # => [] (https://eval.in/561662)
[15:02:03] Ox0dea: Striving to use as few parentheses as possible is less typing and forces you to write less "involved" code.
[15:02:24] mr_oh: How can I get all letters of a word up to capital I ? With gsub
[15:02:28] dfockler: and it's easier to edit later
[15:02:44] Hanmac: >> "TheStuffThere".scan(/[A-Z][a-z]+/)
[15:02:46] ruby[bot]: hanmac: # => ["The", "Stuff", "There"] (https://eval.in/561663)
[15:03:18] tribals: Ox0dea: what is 'involved' code?
[15:03:26] Ox0dea: tribals: Code that "does too much".
[15:03:53] Ox0dea: tribals: Overlong method chains, essentially.
[15:03:55] sharkman: oh thats great hanmac i should have thought of that, more elegant than what i was gonna end up with. thanks
[15:04:01] denny: having "a lot of arguments of nested function calls" :)
[15:04:03] dfockler: that's kind of the reasoning behind less syntax in ruby, is that if it's confusing your code needs to be broken down more
[15:04:47] denny: Isn't there some sort of rule of thumb that if you're indented more than 3 levels, you've probably gone wrong somewhere
[15:05:01] dfockler: law of demeter?
[15:05:03] tribals: thank to all!
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[15:05:14] Ox0dea: "If you need more than 3 levels of indentation, you're screwed anyway, and should fix your program." -- Linus Torvalds
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[15:05:44] dfockler: lol law of demeter is about dependencies
[15:06:00] denny: oo coupling, yeah
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[15:07:41] dfockler: I need to reread poodr
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[15:12:41] venkata: PS C:\Users\venkata.pavankumar> kitchen version C:/Ruby23-x64/lib/ruby/2.3.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb:127:in `require': cannot load such file -- ffi_c (LoadE rror) from C:/Ruby23-x64/lib/ruby/2.3.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb:127:in `rescue in require' from C:/Ruby23-x64/lib/ruby/2.3.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb:40:in `require' from C:/Ruby23-x64/lib/ruby/gems/2.3.0/gems/ffi-1.9.10-x6
[15:12:52] venkata: i am facing the above error
[15:12:56] venkata: with test-kitchen
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[15:13:51] venkata: when i give "kitchen version" command, giving the following error: - "`require': cannot load such file -- ffi_c (LoadError)"
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[15:21:03] mr_oh: Do you have ffi installed ?
[15:22:27] mr_oh: venkata, the first hing I do is look at my gem list when I get an error like that. (But im a beginner, so..)
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[15:29:06] mr_oh: and it won't be -x6 in Gemfile, should only be ffi-1.9.10
[15:29:17] mr_oh: for version
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[15:39:04] theRoUS: is the IPAddr class part of base ruby, the standard library, or what? where would i find the source in order to fork/create a FREQ patch for it?
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[15:41:30] Hanmac: theRoUS: its part of stdlib
[15:42:41] Hanmac: theRoUS: https://github.com/ruby/ruby/blob/trunk/lib/ipaddr.rb
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[15:55:07] theRoUS: hanmac: thanks!
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[15:55:38] Hanmac: what do you want to patch there?
[15:55:47] shevy: the world
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[15:57:04] theRoUS: hanmac: 1. add an instance method to return the number of bits in the mask, if it's CIDR. 2. add a class method to return an array of CIDR specifications that cover an address range.
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[15:57:10] theRoUS: hanmac: i have the code done.
[15:57:39] ule: In PHP we have phpcbf that fix automatically problems detected by phpcs. Do we have anything similar to fix automatically Tailor warnings?
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[16:06:38] Ox0dea: ule: How come you decided on Tailor over RuboCop?
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[16:09:21] ule: Ox0dea: people from my work is using that.. they decided. Does RuboCop has this functionality?
[16:10:07] Ox0dea: ule: Yes. It's maintained, uses an active community style guide for its linter, and has optional autocorrect.
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[16:11:27] ule: Ox0dea: coll! thanks man.. I'll take a look
[16:11:35] Ox0dea: No worries.
[16:11:51] ule: I don't wanna spend 1 hours fixing stupid things here
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[16:20:45] Grav1: how do I deal with this error when I require \ to escape characters in my json? " lexical error: inside a string, '\' occurs before a character which it may not."
[16:20:54] Grav1: join json
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[16:23:58] smathy: g____, don't put it before a character it's not meant to be before?
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[16:24:38] Grav1: how else can I escape a "." character then?
[16:24:49] Grav1: i need a literal period in my regex pattern
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[16:25:24] adaedra: Your regex is in your JSON?
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[16:25:31] adaedra: Maybe show us sample of code + JSON?
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[16:26:01] smathy: g____, regex now, now JSON?
[16:26:13] smathy: ACTION is confuddled
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[16:26:27] Hanmac: g____: you might need to escape it twice
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[16:27:12] Grav1: my json contains regex patterns
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[16:27:29] slash_nick: Important ruby question... what does TEENY mean in this? https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2016/04/26/ruby-2-3-1-released/
[16:27:38] slash_nick: small?... 13-19?
[16:27:57] adaedra: MAJOR.MINOR.TEENY, iirc.
[16:27:58] slash_nick: is ruby 13 now?
[16:28:11] slash_nick: teeny == patch in my mind
[16:28:39] slash_nick: i thought they'd reduced its size or something :(
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[16:32:54] smathy: g____, ?gist your code
[16:33:01] smathy: ?gist g____ ?
[16:33:01] ruby[bot]: g____: https://gist.github.com - Multiple files, syntax highlighting, even automatically with matching filenames, can be edited
[16:33:05] smathy: There we go
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[17:08:15] bazz_: What happens when you, at different points in project files , expand a module and implement the same function
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[17:09:52] smathy: Assuming I'm guessing correctly at what "expand a module" means - it overrides the method in that module.
[17:09:59] shevy: last in wins!
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[17:20:40] owensong12: hey! is anyone online? I got a question regarding setting up a web server
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[17:21:39] owensong12: Thanks. I have my rails backend at `/` and React frontend at `/front/`
[17:21:52] owensong12: When I was developing, I was running two webservers at different ports.
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[17:22:12] owensong12: Now I want to deploy it to production, and I am lost
[17:22:44] owensong12: the users should access the bundleded frontend app for all routes to `/` and access backend API for all routes to `/api/`
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[17:38:17] hxegon: ?rails owensong12
[17:38:17] ruby[bot]: owensong12: Please join #RubyOnRails for Rails questions. You need to be identified with NickServ, see /msg NickServ HELP
[17:38:30] bazz_: owensong12, since nobody has responded (but give it time, it's IRC), and I don't have that experience, you might want to consider getting into a community of Rails/React devs. ok look at that ^ :)
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[18:23:23] bazz_: if I have a class A is it possible to have a module A::B ??
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[18:24:37] havenwood: bazz_: Try it in irb or pry!
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[18:25:56] bazz_: what about, expand a module and implement the a pre-defined function again?
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[18:26:12] bazz_: OK I'll try it out
[18:28:06] bazz_: looks like the last function wins (not sure if super can do a thing there?)
[18:28:18] thorgi: can an object be Marshal.dump()ed in chunks, or a more memory-efficient version of dump?
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[18:28:44] bazz_: no, super doesn't work in that case
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[18:29:38] smathy: bazz_, as we said all along, it overrides, and last in wins.
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[18:30:11] bazz_: smathy, whoops, I didn't notice your responses
[18:30:20] smathy: bazz_, and shevy's :)
[18:30:23] smathy: We didn't prefix, our bad.
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[18:48:28] quakephil: I'm using sinatra/activerecord, and I'm trying to convert my sql functionality to it. I've figured out selects, but now I have something like "insert into table (a,b) values (?,now() + interval 1 day), 'fred'" ... how can I transform this to an activerecord method?
[18:48:35] dfockler: thorgi: looks like you can specify an IO object to pass the dump into, although I haven't tried chunks of IO in ruby
[18:48:56] quakephil: I guess it would look something like Table.create(a: 'fred', b: 'now() + interval 1 day') ?
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[18:51:35] quakephil: Except that doesn't work: "fred" gets stored to column a just fine, but column b is ignored
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[18:57:56] quakephil: Fuck it, I'll just make a db trigger
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[19:37:32] haylon: Hey everyone. I'm trying to figure out how to loop through a hash of nested hashes, but in between each nested hash, there could be some plain key value pairs. Is there a recommeneded method for evaluting if its a hash, or a plain value before moving on?
[19:38:37] toretore: value.is_a?(Hash)
[19:39:18] toretore: you could do respond_to?(:each) but that could be a lot of things
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[20:42:33] havenwood: based on the http-2 gem: https://github.com/ostinelli/net-http2
[20:42:42] havenwood: http2 client^
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[20:44:15] brent__: I had question regarding rbenv
[20:44:36] brent__: i set rbenv global to 2.3.0, but when i do ruby -v, it lsits 2.2.3.....
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[20:49:18] havenwood: brent__: check your PATH? are the rbenv shims up front? there's no rbenv channel that I know of but there's #rvm or #chruby.
[20:49:48] havenwood: brent__: If you get stuck enough maybe consider switching to chruby. :)
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[20:50:46] diegoviola: chruby is great
[20:50:46] brent__: is chruby that much better?
[20:51:05] brent__: the class i'm taking pushes rbenv, so trying to stay as close to that as possible
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[20:51:11] havenwood: brent__: yeah, it's simpler and I could actually help you if there was a problem
[20:51:25] toretore: brent__: what does `which ruby` say?
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[20:51:37] havenwood: brent__: I don't think you'd have any trouble using chruby in place of rbenv, but yeah if you're following along you might want to get it working.
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[20:54:55] brent__: havenwood: rebooted and now it shows 2.3.0p0 (2015-12-25)[x86_64-darwin15], does that sound right? w/ the extrastuff listed
[20:55:09] havenwood: brent__: yup, that's perfect
[20:55:24] havenwood: (ruby 2.3.0)
[20:55:40] havenwood: the p0 means patch level zero, the first patch for 2.3
[20:55:46] havenwood: 2.3.0 will always be p0
[20:55:59] havenwood: 2.3.1 is p112
[20:57:08] brent__: installed 2.3.1 and set it to global
[20:57:12] brent__: and all looks good
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[20:57:38] diegoviola: didn't know 2.3.1 was already out
[20:57:54] diegoviola: ACTION installs it with ruby-install
[20:57:56] brent__: havenwood: i saw something about not wanting to isntall gems via sudo
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[20:58:16] brent__: how would i know if i accidently installed a gem using sudo in the past/
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[20:58:38] havenwood: brent__: You can see the system gems installed with: sudo gem list
[20:58:59] brent__: and what about gems installed w/ otu sudo?
[20:59:01] havenwood: brent__: The `sudo` will drop your env and you'll no longer be getting the rbenv `ruby` or `gem` shims.
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[20:59:09] havenwood: brent__: gem list
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[20:59:46] brent__: cool, and what if i have the same gem installed both ssytem and rbenv?
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[21:00:58] havenwood: brent__: That's not a problem per se. You can have as many Rubies and Gems installed as you'd like. You'll just be using the one you have currently selected.
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[21:04:24] brent__: okay, thanks
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[21:11:52] brent__: havenwood: when i do 'gem list' and 'sudo gem list' at the top it lists "local gems"
[21:12:00] brent__: and look the same
[21:12:19] havenwood: brent__: compare `sudo ruby -v` and `ruby -v`
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[21:12:41] havenwood: brent__: or `sudo gem env` to just `gem env`
[21:12:51] brent__: first was the same 2.3.1
[21:12:58] havenwood: brent__: In any case they'd be local (on your computer).
[21:13:44] brent__: both those outputs look identical
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[21:16:33] havenwood: brent__: I usually suggest tweeting at DHH for rbenv support. :P
[21:16:45] brent__: lol, k thanks
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[21:17:13] havenwood: brent__: just joking, but `rbenv global` should fall back to system Ruby - whatever Ruby is without rbenv dirs in your PATH
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[21:36:12] brent__: havenwood: do you know about the path for arch linux/
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[21:36:43] havenwood: brent__: Here's a nice archlinux setup with chruby: https://gist.github.com/jhass/8839655bb038e829fba1
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[21:44:19] brent__: thanks again havenwood: think i got the path setup, just looking how to install ruby-build on arch
[21:45:10] brent__: sorry update, not install
[21:50:33] brent__: nvm, it looks like it just hasn't been updated in AUR yet
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[22:08:37] patrick99e99: nevermind.. i got it
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