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[00:04:15] chris3492: My bundle install fails, how can I specify a build option for a gem and still use bundle? When I try to add it to bundle install it aborts saying: Unknown switches
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[00:06:48] jhass: chris3492: bundle config build.gemname --options
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[00:44:57] xikaos: Any cool talks on moving from Ruby to Elixir
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[03:38:53] james1241: anyone know why I'm getting the "Unable to start Phusion Passenger: Support binary PassengerAgent not found" error? I followed the instructions and ran the command it says to, but don't see a PassengerAgent binary and it still won't start.
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[07:55:21] al2o3-cr: What a morning to be alive!
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[08:09:23] sandelius: would you put validations in an entity or a repository?
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[08:26:28] TomyLobo: this question displays a severe lack of context
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[10:08:35] miqlas-H: I think i just finished the Haiku Ruby port. The latest one, ofc.
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[11:01:44] miqlas-H: Umm, guys, i got thisduring compiling ruby: http://termbin.com/yjb3
[11:01:51] miqlas-H: Any idea, what went wrong?
[11:03:46] bruce_lee: \(^_^)/ @all
[11:04:07] bruce_lee: whats wrong with this one?
[11:04:14] bruce_lee: load $pwd + "/" + "../../lib_crawler/lib_crawler.rb"
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[11:19:15] bruce_lee: ^^^ solved it with a weird workaround: https://gist.github.com/bruceLee-kungFu/af478c065481e51c8f5760f570f1d73b
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[12:10:05] danand: hi all. using rbenv. when i install gems they are not automatically found... I have to manually update with 'rbenv rehash' before I can use any of the newly installed gems. I've looked into this and rbenv _should_ automagically run rbenv rehash for you post install of any gem. Anyone know what i'm doing wrong?
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[12:13:45] naftilos76: hi everyone, i have been trying to find a way to get the ip address of the client when it comes to using TCPServer class
[12:13:51] naftilos76: Can anyone help?
[12:14:30] naftilos76: i can connect with the ruby server but i can not get the client's ip address on server side
[12:15:39] naftilos76: http://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.2.0/libdoc/socket/rdoc/TCPServer.html
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[12:56:51] bonhoeffer: is there a way to divide all elements of a hash by a constant
[12:57:20] bonhoeffer: of course there is, sorry, what is an efficient way? myhash.values.each {|v| v/100}
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[12:59:41] apeiros: not aware of anything better
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[13:22:40] guardian: hello, if I want to refer to a method in a commit message, do I use . or # ??? e.g. Pathname.file? or Pathname#file?
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[13:27:44] shevy: guardian the latter for instance methods
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[13:28:17] shevy: let me find a good example on the ruby core docs
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[13:28:54] shevy: oh yes when you go to http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.3.1/String.html
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[13:29:05] shevy: on the left side, at "Methods"
[13:29:22] shevy: you can see "::try_convert" and then you can see the method % "#%"
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[14:07:09] buck0ff: Anybody there?
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[14:26:20] iamvery: Does anyone know anything about the status of the ruby koans? http://www.rubykoans.com/ The page still works, but it seems the Neo github has been cleared out 😦 https://github.com/neo/
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[14:28:55] iamvery: maybe related to https://neo.com/2016/02/18/a-final-post-neo-joins-the-pivotal-family/
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[14:35:16] jhass: wow that's sad, apeiros ^ shall we upload them to github.com/ruby-community ?
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[14:41:01] shevy: http://www.rubykoans.com/#cc
[14:41:52] shevy: Oh... Jim Weirich was with NEO?
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[14:45:45] iamvery: Yeah, he was. I found https://github.com/edgecase/ruby_koans, but I can't decide if they're an improvement (didn't look closely)
[14:45:50] iamvery: There're lot's of mirrors out there.
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[14:46:00] iamvery: I have https://github.com/iamvery/ruby_koans which I know is the latest that was on the neo repo.
[14:46:19] iamvery: Not sure how/if we can update http://rubykoans.com/ to fix the currently broken download link.
[14:47:23] iamvery: Looks like it's owned by Mike Doel? https://duckduckgo.com/?q=whois+rubykoans.com&atb=v16&ia=whois Anyone know him?
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[14:48:07] iamvery: https://github.com/mdoel
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[14:50:21] iamvery: emailed him https://gist.github.com/iamvery/61f774b5d2bcb7a684ef124d4a879567
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[14:51:57] jsims: anyone know how to fix permission denied errors? i tried installing with rvm single user, tried installing with rvm multi-user, both cases end up the same, "Cannot execute /foo/bar/wrappers: Permission denied (13)"
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[14:57:04] jhass: iamvery: if you do get a reply, we can talk about rehosting it on https://github.com/ruby-community
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[15:02:08] iamvery: jhass: I'll keep you posted. Would love to get that fixed. I really like that approach to language introduction.
[15:02:22] iamvery: broken links -> confused people -> rage quit
[15:02:30] jhass: iamvery: https://github.com/edgecase/rubykoans.com looks like the site is there too?
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[15:02:39] shevy: iamvery lol
[15:02:40] jhass: old version of it anyhow
[15:02:44] shevy: I like that reaction chain
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[15:03:01] iamvery: ya, that's interesting jhass. idk the history
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[15:04:02] iamvery: shevy: that may even be generous for people of the internet 😂
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[15:27:54] Hawkz: Anyone willing to help a newbie?
[15:28:50] Hawkz: So i just started this Until Loop code
[15:28:58] Hawkz: And it's giving me infinite loop
[15:29:17] Zarthus: Got any code?
[15:29:20] Hawkz: counter = 1 until counter == 10 puts counter # i += 1 i += 1 end
[15:29:28] Zarthus: do it in a paastebin
[15:29:33] Zarthus: webchat borks your formatting.
[15:30:17] Hawkz: http://pastebin.com/tEBGJgrU
[15:30:18] ruby[bot]: Hawkz: we in #ruby do not like pastebin.com, I reposted your paste to gist for you: https://gist.github.com/c3e381849253e8484a382c145dd5f7b1
[15:30:18] ruby[bot]: Hawkz: pastebin.com loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting.
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[15:31:22] Hawkz: https://gist.github.com/c3e381849253e8484a382c145dd5f7b1
[15:31:25] Zarthus: you never defined i
[15:31:33] Zarthus: you're incrementing i, but you initialized variable counter
[15:31:51] Zarthus: It should have given you an error though, not loop infinitely.
[15:32:37] Hawkz: I'm using CodeAcademy , anyway i changed i to counter
[15:33:07] Zarthus: you forgot 'do' at until
[15:33:27] Zarthus: `until counter == 10 do'
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[15:35:50] Hawkz: Thanks for helping
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[15:46:52] guardian: is this possible with rspec: if receive(:foo).with(arg1) { r1 } but have a different r2 return value if received with arg2 ?
[15:47:38] jhass: doesn't that just work?
[15:48:24] jhass: allow(foo).to receive(:foo).with(arg1).and_return(r1); allow(foo).to receive(:foo):with(arg2).and_return(r2)
[15:48:42] guardian: gonna try again then
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[16:32:21] imperator: good morning peeps
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[16:34:10] Mattx: Hey guys! I'm looking for a database that I can store in a file, so it's easy to setup. I'm particularly interested in schemaless databases
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[16:34:15] Mattx: Is there anything like this?
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[16:34:38] jhass: Mattx: YDBM?
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[16:34:54] jhass: http://devdocs.io/ruby~2.3/yaml/dbm
[16:35:55] Mattx: jhass, interesting. Do you happen to know how fast it is?
[16:36:10] Mattx: I want to save and query around 1 million objects
[16:36:29] jhass: probably not very
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[16:44:45] shevy: hmm... I just wanted to do something weird
[16:44:52] shevy: I wanted to write a method that has a '-' as part of its name
[16:45:04] jhass: shevy: so switch to Nim
[16:45:41] jazz1: or a pry command :p
[16:46:21] Mattx: it would be great to use sqlite as a schemaless database, for small/command line projects
[16:46:43] PaulePanter: Hi. With the Ruby debugger (byebug) how can I achieve the following?
[16:46:55] PaulePanter: x = something()
[16:47:22] PaulePanter: Now I want to step in the console after the state when x is assigned with manually calling something() in the debug console.
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[16:47:34] PaulePanter: Using `next` always jumps after the method.
[16:47:59] PaulePanter: In this case, `byebug` could be moved after, but this is just an example.
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[16:51:03] Mattx: something like UnQLite!
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[16:55:53] ule: Anyone here using Mongoid + Rails?
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[16:57:01] apeiros: Mattx: NoQlite? I want Sqheavy! for the brutal tasks in your sql!
[16:57:07] ule: What's the best when creating relations like User->Items? has_many or embeds_many?
[16:57:15] ule: mongoid 5
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[16:58:00] ule: If I understood well, has_many adds the object_id of the related collection instead of adding the children collection
[16:58:06] ule: not sure what's the best practice
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[17:02:17] alfiemax: ule, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10860116/difference-between-embeds-many-and-has-many-in-mongoid
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[17:06:07] ule: I know the difference
[17:06:30] ule: has_many will add the object_id of the children on the parent
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[17:06:41] ule: but I'm not sure what's the difference in Ruby
[17:07:18] ule: which one is the best practice?
[17:07:41] ule: I think I need to create an example with both to get my own conclusions
[17:07:49] alfiemax: difference in ruby?? i think it's a rails question
[17:07:58] jhass: they do quite distinct things, it depends on every situation
[17:08:02] ruby[bot]: "better" and "best" depend entirely on your context. Try to describe what quality would make one thing better than the other.
[17:08:22] ule: I think I want something easy to retrieve and save data
[17:08:39] ule: for example.. Can I use User.Items.create()
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[17:09:06] ule: anyways.. I'll create an example here.. thanks !!
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[17:16:36] ule: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8255093/relations-with-mongoid-what-should-i-use
[17:16:41] ule: This one helped me a bit
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[17:41:51] jhass: apeiros: seen the earlier convo about ruby koans?
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[17:42:06] apeiros: jhass: nope. why?
[17:42:36] jhass: the neo repo is gone, wondered whether rehosting it on github.com/ruby-community would make sense
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[17:42:58] apeiros: I have nothing against that
[17:43:15] jhass: https://github.com/neo/ruby_koans/
[17:43:15] apeiros: but I wonder a) why it's gone (I assume "neo repo" == canonical repo?)
[17:43:27] apeiros: and b) whether the creator is ok with us doing so
[17:43:43] jhass: eh well, would be easier if you could read up, highlighted you back then :P
[17:43:47] apeiros: seems neo killed all
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[17:44:41] apeiros: I'd love to, but I'm currently working. deadline on tuesday. so excuse me if I don't have much time at all :-S
[17:44:44] shevy: we walk the path of _why!
[17:44:51] apeiros: feel free to reraise the issue next week-end, though. should have more time then :)
[17:45:46] jhass: ok cool, we might have some feedback from the last maintainer by then
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[18:40:41] krakenr: Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong here. I've simplified my server and 'browser' as much as possible, and it's not working https://gist.github.com/KrakenHH/d155aab17ab5f618848760ebcbf5be4c
[18:41:20] krakenr: Why is the bottom part not reading from the top part?
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[18:44:01] krakenr: it works until I send a request
[18:46:41] jhass: ?gist_usage
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[18:48:10] krakenr: Sorry, here https://gist.github.com/KrakenHH/0ab4f8e518aeba3bbfc80b56fe97f88f
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[18:50:28] jhass: one of three, at least
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[18:51:09] jhass: .read reads until eof, doesn't it?
[18:52:02] xybre: kraken_: Did you try telnetting into the server?
[18:53:47] jhass: no I'm right
[18:54:14] jhass: kraken_: your server calls .read, that waits for an EOF but none comes because your client reads before closing the connection from its side
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[18:57:19] xybre: jhass: the server sends EOF when it closes
[18:57:36] jhass: yes, irrelevant
[18:57:41] xybre: (or rather the socket interpretation)
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[19:03:38] krakenr: Yea, I just get unlimited blinking cursors
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[19:06:12] jhass: kraken_: did you try to understand what I told you yet?
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[19:10:24] krakenr: jhass: I think I understand it. The server never gets and eof? because it's never sent, but I'm trying to figure out how to send one without closing the socket on the client side because I need to read the response
[19:10:57] jhass: kraken_: EOF is usable as a delimiter for multiple messages
[19:11:07] jhass: use a different delimiter
[19:11:19] jhass: bah, is not* of course
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[19:14:08] krakenr: jhass, thank you
[19:15:15] xybre: kraken_: you probably don't want to use IO#read if you're expecting to do more than send one message per connection.
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[20:14:09] Fernando-Basso: In the output of rake routes, the empty "spot" below a prefix in the "spot" above means the empty one is identical to teh one above?
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[20:15:39] Fernando-Basso: And if the prefix is `articles` I get an 'articles_path` helper method, if the prefix is 'edit_article', I get an 'edit_article_path' helper method. Are those statements reflecting the undeniable truth?
[20:15:41] ruby[bot]: Please join #RubyOnRails for Rails questions. You need to be identified with NickServ, see /msg NickServ HELP
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[20:22:27] Neon: In a Rakefile I can use method(:rule) to get the rule method object. However, when I try this in a class' method, I get an error. How can I retrieve the rule method in the class method?
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[20:29:54] jhass: http://www.rubydoc.info/gems/rake/Rake/Task#create_rule-class_method
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[21:17:06] fiifi: jhass: sap
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[21:17:33] jhass: dunno, not much. Someone joined to #ruby and asked what's up
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[21:19:12] jhass: fiifi: any question?
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[21:21:01] fiifi: i want to master ruby very well, and i want to know if you could be of help
[21:25:57] jhass: if you have any specific questions, just ask, sure
[21:26:06] jhass: we won't tutor you though
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[21:29:01] gizmore: what language is best for a homogenic infrastructur?
[21:29:26] gizmore: or is ruby api + angular better?
[21:30:05] gizmore: does anyone plan to move to node.js for homogenic reasons?
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[21:30:50] bougyman: what are you talking about?
[21:31:20] gizmore: would anyone plan to abondon rails or alike for node.js
[21:31:32] bougyman: i abandoned rails, but not for another language.
[21:31:38] bougyman: you are aware you're in #ruby?
[21:31:57] gizmore: yes.. just wondering if anyone also thought to write their next serverstuff in js
[21:32:10] gizmore: because its the client language
[21:32:11] bougyman: you might find those people in #node
[21:32:24] ruby[bot]: "better" and "best" depend entirely on your context. Try to describe what quality would make one thing better than the other.
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[21:32:35] jhass: gizmore: http://voltframework.com/
[21:33:00] gizmore: btw, there is also ruby2mobile or something
[21:33:20] adaedra: And bougyman is right, it's not the best place for that, we'd be a bit biased :)
[21:33:33] gizmore: and other stuff that might be fun to try... just wondering if some people too are wondering which language will be on all platforms best
[21:33:58] gizmore: like a complete node.js project ... or a complete ruby... or complete C# (brrr)
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[21:36:12] toretore: that's a silly idea; different languages/frameworks/platforms are good at different things
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[21:37:00] toretore: look at all those failed attempts to bring language x to the browser by compiling to or generating js
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[21:41:07] gizmore: toretore: but a pure JS project sounds like an intersting idea
[21:41:33] gizmore: toretore: imagine a typescript codebase where everything is JS, and just the targets spit out server and clients
[21:41:55] gizmore: all homogenic... sounds like an interesting idea to me
[21:42:12] toretore: interesting perhaps, but i don't know about good
[21:42:18] gizmore: yeah... never tried
[21:42:55] gizmore: angular-material-server
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[21:43:03] gizmore: sounds like a fun package name to start such a thing
[21:43:31] gizmore: also MVC is dead
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[21:43:38] gizmore: long live Components and Services
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[21:44:02] toretore: i heard the rdbms was dead too
[21:44:09] toretore: been hearing it for 10 years
[21:44:14] gizmore: it´s just sleeping
[21:44:22] gizmore: the main reason is efficience
[21:44:29] gizmore: if a tool is efficient, it can rest
[21:45:13] gizmore: at work the java guys do: Interface/Impl/Facade
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[21:45:49] gizmore: The IIFCVVVCMSSIPPF pattern
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[21:47:15] gizmore: and one day at work someone said... "i don´t use the mvc folders.. i put all in a C folder, and still have it mvcsfd"
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[21:47:47] gizmore: and i told him... people will argue... but you are right... just C and S does make sense
[21:47:55] gizmore: Component and Service
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[21:49:30] adaedra: what if I told you
[21:49:36] adaedra: there's no one-fit-all architecture
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[21:52:19] jhass: use mongo yo, it's webscale
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[21:56:04] adaedra: jhass: that's MEAN.
[21:56:31] jhass: it's the only thing I can think of in these kind of discussions, sorry
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[23:36:07] pipework: What if I told you architecture isn't what matters?
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