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[00:04:43] gigglypuff: has anyone here read SICP?
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[02:36:23] sharkman: if i want to hire someone, and my project has ruby and ruby on rails, but the interfaces with rails are simple and its mainly ruby, should i look for workers in here? or in the rubyonrails channeL/
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[02:43:54] sharkman: hm i guess everyone is out tonight
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[02:45:01] unk00: <-- Archer...
[02:46:05] unk00: sharkman: I'd focus on #rubyonrails but #ruby would probally also be a good bet ;-)
[02:46:36] sharkman: how is it possible to even do a ruby project and not use rails? like dont almost all projects involve a database in some capacity?
[02:48:28] UnKnOwN|: I mean I recently did a project in ruby and only used sinatra...
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[02:49:22] shevy: you could use textfiles too!
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[02:53:48] UnKnOwN|: sharkman: https://blog.codeship.com/a-survey-of-non-rails-frameworks-in-ruby-cuba-sinatra-padrino-lotus/
[02:54:32] sharkman: so does anyone here want a job? i scrape data, store it in rails/postgres, then query it and build up some data frames so i can run it through regression
[02:54:47] sharkman: anyone have experience with a project like this and want work
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[02:59:51] sharkman: long term work, flexible hours, not full time
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[03:07:22] pontiki: what's your record for completing such projects and paying out?
[03:09:30] sharkman: are you interested in work pontiki?
[03:10:06] pontiki: i'm always interested in work, doing something i like, with people i respect
[03:11:24] sharkman: can you send me a message on here please, i dont know how to start up these private irc chats. we can talk more and i can show evidence of my trustworthy nature
[03:11:55] pontiki: you aren't willing to show such evidence publicly?
[03:13:51] sharkman: you are rather pugnacious
[03:14:30] pontiki: i'll take that as a "no"
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[03:16:08] sharkman: you would be wrong. whether i am willing to do something, and whether i will do it when there is no reason are two different things. you havent told me about yourself at all and i dont see why its more appropriate in a public chat room than a private chat
[03:16:31] pontiki: here's my resume: http://resume.tamouse.org
[03:16:39] pontiki: here's my github: https://github.com/tamouse
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[03:17:02] pontiki: all publicly available, open for everyone to see
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[03:18:04] pontiki: here's my art, too: http://art.tamouse.org
[03:20:59] sharkman: very well, my name is Dan Ashman, this is me, https://www.amazon.com/Dominate-No-Limit-Holdem-Guide-Pyschology/dp/1904468578/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1467429578&sr=8-2&keywords=daniel+ashman, i post the link to show i am a long standng public member of the poker community and you can search my name on there to see a great reputation. if you want more specific evidence for trustworthiness in paying employees the only thing i could think
[03:21:00] sharkman: of is to put you in touch with people ive hired and paid which i could do
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[03:24:17] sharkman: how much do you charge pontiki
[03:24:34] pontiki: 60-70 hour
[03:25:14] sharkman: this code reminds me of the code i already have built that my friend wrote
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[06:11:25] krakenr: can you store a lambda or a block in a hash?
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[06:33:51] krakenr: is there any way to yield a piece of code to a block?
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[07:46:42] krakenr: Alright, so It think I've finally figured blocks out. A block calls a method, and supplies a method at the end of it {} (which can take arguments) that the method it calls can use to help it's final return statement
[07:47:07] krakenr: A block basically sends a message with a method attached for the receiver to use
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[08:58:06] kareeoleez: guys is ActiveJob compatible with Delayed Job and Clockwork or am I doing circles ?
[08:58:25] kareeoleez: is DelayedJob the same as ActiveJob in terms of usage ?
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[09:02:00] adaedra: kareeoleez: that's a question for #RubyOnRails I think
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[09:04:06] kareeoleez: adaedra: it might be but there are a lot of assholes there
[09:04:20] kareeoleez: I promised myself I won't join ever again
[09:04:27] kareeoleez: that's not your problem though :D
[09:04:27] adaedra: calm down with the insults, thanks
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[10:24:43] aayushkothari: Thank you Admin(s) for having me here and hello to everybody on the channel!
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[10:25:01] Wildfyr: aayushkothari: sup
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[10:25:39] aayushkothari: About to start building the API backend for my company's next project. And I have some questions.
[10:25:50] aayushkothari: Here's something to refer to that I tried recently - http://softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/34235/backend-infrastructure-of-dropbox-like-platform
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[10:27:21] aayushkothari: I've chosen to start small with tools I've experience in - Sinatra, MongoDB and PhusionPassenger with nginx. My question now is, with the recent announcement of Rails 5 and it's API mode, what do I build the API in - Sinatra or Rails 5?
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[10:30:30] aayushkothari: Anyone having experience with Sinatra and Rails 5 (API mode) could shed some insight on how they compare with respect to number of req/s and memory footprint would be great help and highly appreciated.
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[10:40:50] apeiros: aayushkothari: #rubyonrails and #sinatra might have more insight into that.
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[11:13:47] aayushkothari: apeiros: Thanks! I've posted my query on #rubyonrails as well.
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[14:37:56] shevy: does one of you know something like the following in ruby
[14:38:16] shevy: - given some text file, distill all entries into an object with the corresponding names of the methods being what the text file itself describes
[14:38:19] shevy: let me find an example...
[14:39:28] shevy: sorta like this http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/AB077698
[14:39:45] shevy: hmm actually simpler like that...
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[14:52:54] Papierkorb: shevy: a hash, maybe with an OpenStruct?
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[14:59:08] shevy: I seem to have to do that a lot
[14:59:15] shevy: take text file -> turn into object
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[15:24:59] Mrgoose: Hello. In ruby how do I find if there is a a key in an object. I wanna do something like if 'AUTHORIZATION' in #<Sinatra::Request:0x0055639d812b48>:
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[15:28:59] toretore: there is no such concept as a "key in an object"
[15:29:15] toretore: explain in more detail what you want to do
[15:29:19] toretore: with code, preferably
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[15:29:46] shevy: Mrgoose if you are lucky, the sinatra authors have given it a sensible method name; class Hash has ... has_key?
[15:30:08] apeiros: Mrgoose: objects have instance variables and respond to methods
[15:30:11] alfiemax: Mrgoose, has_key? respond_to?
[15:30:13] apeiros: respond_to? for methods
[15:30:41] apeiros: and querying for ivars is an anti-pattern, check which methods the object exposes to interact with its ivars.
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[15:31:12] Mrgoose: that clears it up in my head more
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[16:30:21] Wixy: Hey people, I'm getting a json response from an api (awfully documented) that looks like this
[16:30:38] Wixy: {timezone: "EDT", end: 1467379800, start: 1467360000, gmtoffset: -14400}
[16:30:49] Wixy: It's a timestamp, but I'm not sure how to read it
[16:31:00] Wixy: how could the offset be -14400?
[16:33:03] Wixy: any idea?
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[16:34:17] Papierkorb: Wixy: Looks like seconds, that being -4hrs
[16:34:31] Papierkorb: And you're right, that does look awful
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[16:35:09] Wixy: the timestamps are second, that's a fact
[16:35:15] Wixy: but I'm not sure about the timezone
[16:35:19] Papierkorb: Wixy: If 'EDT' is GMT-4hrs I don't know
[16:35:51] Papierkorb: Wikipedia says that EDT is indeed UTC-4
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[16:36:09] Wixy: but how did you get that from the response??
[16:36:24] Wixy: 144 / 60 is not 4
[16:36:36] Wixy: well, that wouldn't even make sense
[16:36:40] Wixy: maybe 14400?
[16:36:48] Wixy: I see, 14400/3600
[16:36:52] Papierkorb: Guessing. A hour is 3600 seconds. "14400 could be a multiple of that..", so I slam that into a calculator and indeed, it's 4
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[16:37:14] Wixy: yeah, then it's an offset, in seconds for whatever reason lol
[16:37:39] Papierkorb: I guess that the "named" field is ment for display and the 'gmtOffset' for calculations
[16:37:51] Wixy: well, I think it was Venezuela which had -3:30 or similar, wasn't it?
[16:38:07] Papierkorb: Though I'm more offended that it's not called "utcOffset" if you go and invent yet another JSON time format
[16:38:28] Papierkorb: Really no idea, I always have to google stuff like that
[16:38:41] Wixy: thanks Papierkorb
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[16:45:53] Wixy: Friday July 01, 2016 09:30:00 :)
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[16:46:54] Wixy: is there any way to parse a timestamp with timezone? Something like Time.at 19042190832, but with timezone
[16:46:58] bradland: Looks like {timezone: "EDT", end: SECONDS, start: SECONDS, gmtoffset: SECONDS} to me
[16:47:33] bradland: Wixy: ActiveSupport has a module for that: http://api.rubyonrails.org/classes/ActiveSupport/TimeWithZone.html
[16:47:49] Wixy: I'm not using rails, it's pure ruby
[16:48:00] Wixy: well, I can include that lib in particular, I'll have a look
[16:48:06] bradland: What ruby version?
[16:49:06] toretore: Wixy: be more specific about what you want; 19042190832 doesn't have any timeone information
[16:49:45] Wixy: toretore, the timezone (gtmoffset) is in a previous message, -14400
[16:50:04] bradland: Have a look at Time in StdLib as well. There are some additional methos in there related to time zones. http://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.3.1/libdoc/time/rdoc/index.html
[16:50:35] Wixy: Time.at(1467360000, -14400) => Friday July 01, 2016 09:30:00
[16:50:41] Wixy: something like this, toretore ^
[16:50:52] bradland: Before you get too deep down this rabbit hole, consider this advice: always use UTC internally, and consider time zones a localication matter.
[16:51:23] Wixy: yeah, I know that. but I'm trying to parse a timestamp from an API I can't change :/
[16:51:44] bradland: just add the seconds and you have UTC.
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[16:52:26] Wixy: makes sense :P
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[16:57:04] Wixy: well, not exactly because Time.at will interpret the time with your local timestamp
[16:57:16] Wixy: err, timezone *
[16:57:58] Wixy: so you have to add the offset (-14400) and probably your local offset or whatever, I'll try
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[17:02:00] toretore: >> h={timezone: "EDT", end: 1467379800, start: 1467360000, gmtoffset: -14400}; (Time.at(h[:start]).utc + Time.at(h[:start]).utc_offset).localtime(h[:gmtoffset])
[17:02:01] ruby[bot]: toretore: # => 2016-07-01 04:00:00 -0400 (https://eval.in/599582)
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[17:04:41] Wixy: toretore, it's wrong, the answer is this I believe: 2016-07-01 09:30:00 -0400
[17:04:48] Wixy: that should be the result
[17:05:18] Wixy: or the equivalent in your local time
[17:08:03] toretore: ah shit, i hate timezones
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[17:11:05] toretore: >> h={timezone: "EDT", end: 1467379800, start: 1467360000, gmtoffset: -14400}; t=Time.at(h[:start]); Time.new(t.year, t.month, t.day, t.hour, t.min, t.sec, h[:gmtoffset])
[17:11:06] ruby[bot]: toretore: # => 2016-07-01 08:00:00 -0400 (https://eval.in/599585)
[17:11:28] toretore: ok, i give up
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[17:13:57] toretore: actually, the timezone doesn't matter, i don't know why they provide a timestamp and then an offset because the timestamp doesn't have an offset
[17:14:43] toretore: 1467360000 since epoch is the same no matter the zone
[17:16:28] toretore: i assume it's some sort of calendar event where they just want to know the timezone for practical purposes
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[17:29:24] Wixy: I couldn't make it work either -.-
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[17:43:00] DotKite: hey guys I am trying to split a string on non digits. I used string.split(/\D/), which works but also gives me elements that are empty strings. Anyone know why?
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[17:45:49] Mon_Ouie: Can you give us an example string?
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[17:47:32] pontiki: i think you meant \d, not \D
[17:47:43] Mon_Ouie: That would split on digits
[17:48:28] pontiki: ah, right, misread
[17:48:37] pontiki: you want the digits
[17:50:44] pontiki: >> "aaa1234bbb".split(/\D/)
[17:50:45] ruby[bot]: pontiki: # => ["", "", "", "1234"] (https://eval.in/599587)
[17:50:55] pontiki: >> "aaa1234bbb".split(/\D+/)
[17:50:56] ruby[bot]: pontiki: # => ["", "1234"] (https://eval.in/599588)
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[18:04:55] DotKite: sorry just got back to my desk. Yeah so as you can both see that you get those empty strings as a result
[18:05:08] DotKite: with the numbers of course
[18:05:37] DotKite: i guess i am just being picky, but how would you discard those empty strings
[18:05:47] DotKite: without using something like select
[18:06:01] DotKite: is there a regex to do that?
[18:06:13] DotKite: so it happens in the split
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[18:08:18] malleable: DotKite, what about "aaa1234bbb".scan(/\d+/)
[18:09:00] DotKite: havent really used scan before
[18:09:17] DotKite: gonna look at its docs
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[21:23:59] Mon_Ouie: Why are you using --local?
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[21:24:12] kakadu: I don't want to install into /usr/bin
[21:24:20] Mon_Ouie: That's --user-install, not --local
[21:24:50] kakadu: Ah, thanks!
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