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[02:21:13] postapocallyptic: hello, I'm trying to create an array of threads and I'm executing the join command inside a loop. so thread << Thread.new {do something} thread[$index].join $index+=1
[02:22:00] postapocallyptic: but the code gets stuck at thread[$index].join and only executes that one thread instead of an array of threads.
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[02:28:20] postapocallyptic: http://pastebin.com/mpEm54tf
[02:28:20] ruby[bot]: postapocallyptic: as I told you already, please use https://gist.github.com
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[02:34:38] postapocallyptic: is this possible?
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[04:35:32] shevy: postapocallyptic you should post code that others can reproduce
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[05:25:14] hammond: yeah can I make an array of threads?
[05:25:33] hammond: threadss << Thread.new {blah}
[05:26:05] hammond: and then run them inside a loop? threadss.at(index).join
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[05:39:08] shevy: so here you thread people have something to read - it is old but still works
[05:39:08] shevy: http://ruby-doc.com/docs/ProgrammingRuby/html/tut_threads.html
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[08:22:03] Aiwass: Hello, I have an error when running rspec inside a jenkins build, I get 'Could not find 'rspec-core' (>= 0) among 0 total gem(s). If I run it outside, under the user jenkins, everything works fine. How could this be fixed?
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[08:24:12] dminuoso: Aiwass: How is your Ruby installed?
[08:24:24] Aiwass: in installed system wide, from yum
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[08:24:51] Aiwass: running the gradle task on its own shows no errors
[08:25:01] Aiwass: only inside a jenkins build it fails running
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[08:26:39] Aiwass: even inside the build job it ran in the beginning, but somehow it stopped and now I cannot bring it back to its initial state, even if I reinstalled ruby and all the required gems
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[08:51:37] rodorgas: I’m struggling to install some gems without root permission. I’m trying to do it with rbenv, but it still saying that I don’t have write permission
[08:52:21] rodorgas: This is rather strange `which gem`: `/Users/rodrigoorem/.rbenv/shims/gem` but `gem env home`: `/Library/Ruby/Gems/2.0.0`
[08:54:52] shevy: sounds as if you have at least two different gem executables on your system
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[08:56:43] rodorgas: If I do `/Users/rodrigoorem/.rbenv/shims/gem env home`, I get `/Library/Ruby/Gems/2.0.0`
[08:57:14] rodorgas: is it possible to change manually this dir? i cant find in google
[09:00:17] shevy: gem env --help
[09:00:24] shevy: "RubyGems' default local repository can be overridden with the GEM_PATH and
[09:00:30] shevy: GEM_HOME environment variables. GEM_HOME sets the default repository to
[09:00:35] shevy: install into. GEM_PATH allows multiple local repositories to be searched for gems."
[09:02:17] rodorgas: yea shevy but setting environment var seems hacky, I would like to do it the right way
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[09:03:22] shevy: it's a strange path
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[09:12:43] rodorgas: python’s pip is so easy, i don’t get this rbenv/rvm/bundler complexity
[09:13:00] rodorgas: i had to create /Users/rodrigoorem/.rbenv/version and write 2.3.1
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[09:20:03] shevy: no idea here either, I compile ruby and everything else from source. If I have to switch versions I go use the gobolinux approach
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[09:21:59] canton7: aww, no news items from gobolinux in over a year
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[09:23:25] shevy: happens when you have like 1 or 2 people semi-active or inactive
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[11:58:32] manveru: shevy: you're still not on nixos? :)
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[12:10:57] shevy: manveru it's on my todo list!
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[12:11:12] shevy: but I don't get to do as much experimenting as I used to :(
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[12:13:07] manveru: you actually got a job now?
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[15:44:12] fredolinhares: Someone can recomend me a tutorial about how to work with geographic position?
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[15:45:19] jhass: fredolinhares: that's a bit broad, what do plan to do specifically?
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[15:47:02] fredolinhares: jhass: I want to calculate distances, since the Earth is no flat, I know is not like I do in a 2d map. I want to know it works and if there are libs in Ruby that can help.
[15:47:27] jhass: the geocoder gem should provide helpers for it
[15:47:49] fredolinhares: ok, thank you.
[15:47:52] jhass: in order to understand how it works, read up on projections, WGS84 and Mercator being the two most popular
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[15:52:46] Daneel: how to delete all files in a directory matching a pattern ?
[15:53:29] adaedra: Which kind of pattern? File names, contents? Glob, regexp?
[15:53:29] Wildfyr: maybe use Dir.glob to find the file
[15:53:53] Daneel: adaedra: filename
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[15:54:21] adaedra: So yeah, Dir.glob/Dir.[] to find files
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[15:57:43] Daneel: adaedra: like this ? File.delete.Dir.glob("#{mypath}/*file*")
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[15:58:39] Wildfyr: wouldn't it be better to iterate over the list provided by Dir.glob
[15:58:46] adaedra: You can't call Dir on File.delete
[15:59:09] adaedra: You have to find the files using Dir.glob, then call File.delete on each of them
[15:59:15] Daneel: ok i am not ruby guy at all
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[16:01:18] jhass: doesn't matter, the only thing that matters is whether you want to learn it ;)
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[16:12:51] Daneel: jhass: hehe :) if i have all time i would like to learn all
[16:12:53] drahosj: What's your favorite way of handling regex matches with capture groups?
[16:13:11] drahosj: I tend to do something like `m = whatever.match /regex/`
[16:13:19] drahosj: then an unless m.nil?
[16:13:29] drahosj: handle capture group, else handle error
[16:13:31] drahosj: still feels clunky
[16:13:51] adaedra: if (m = whatever.match /regex/) # can save you one line
[16:14:53] drahosj: also perfect for a block predicate, which is where the clunkiness bugged me a lot
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[16:18:59] c_nick: anyone can suggest good website / read up for reporting designs -> i need to create an attractive UI for reporting regression breaks
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[16:56:47] masterkorp: hello everyone
[16:57:45] masterkorp: I need a gem that was already deleted from rubygems, i have the intalled gem on another computer though, how can I backup that gem from another machine and place it on the new one?
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[17:03:47] Papierkorb: masterkorp: Did you install that gem using `gem install`, or `bundle`?
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[17:06:39] Papierkorb: masterkorp: Go to your gem installation directory ($GEM_HOME or ~/.gem if that gem was installed user-local). In there, follow the path ruby/2.3.0/cache <- if you don't use Ruby 2.3.0, replace the version number accordingly. In there, you'll see a ton of *.gem files. Find the correct one (it's always GEM_NAME-VERSION.gem), transfer it to the other computer. There, you can install the gem using: $ gem install the-gem-1.2.3.gem
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[17:07:53] Papierkorb: masterkorp: you could also host it yourself by using the `geminabox` project if you have a spare development server you want to use as Gem server ;)
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[17:09:13] masterkorp: Papierkorb: yes with gem install
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[17:09:34] Papierkorb: masterkorp: then try the instructions above
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[17:09:39] masterkorp: Papierkorb: thanks you
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[17:10:04] masterkorp: all the gems i need are here
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[17:11:38] Papierkorb: masterkorp: Cheers
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[17:29:18] ruby-lang858: data[:SummaryECUpdateTimestamp] => 2016-06-27 23:32:01 -0700
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[17:29:51] ruby-lang858: want to change the timestamp format as "SummaryECUpdateTimestamp": "06/11/2016 01:36:46"
[17:30:05] Papierkorb: ruby-lang858: See Time#strftime
[17:30:39] Papierkorb: ruby-lang858: Is that for display purposes or do you intend to interact with another service?
[17:31:03] ruby-lang858: just display purpose
[17:31:10] Papierkorb: Then you should be fine
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[18:22:36] Azrael: hey folks -- did rubygems stop maintaining/updating the AWS S3 production.s3.rubygems.org bucket?
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[18:48:21] imperator: if i've got a proxy url with an "@" in the password, but i'm having trouble escaping it
[18:48:26] imperator: proxy = 'http://admin:pass@xxx123@localhost:8080'
[18:49:06] elomatreb: This was discussed a few days ago in this channel, the eventually recommended solution was to require passwords to be URL-encoded
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[18:50:57] imperator: elomatreb, hm, guess so; don't see a better way
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[19:09:37] Papierkorb: elomatreb: URL encoding that part is 'demanded' by the RFC iirc, so it's the "correct" solution
[19:11:47] lupine: of course, using URIs like that is frowned upon a lot these days
[19:12:42] Papierkorb: lupine: Why should it?
[19:12:49] Papierkorb: It's a perfectly valid URL afterwards
[19:13:20] lupine: general grumblings about security
[19:13:41] Papierkorb: lupine: How are those insecure?
[19:13:52] lupine: the password's right there in plain
[19:13:59] lupine: I mean, I can see their point, but gawd they're useful
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[19:14:20] Papierkorb: Well, for configuration purposes .. where would you else put the password?
[19:14:35] Papierkorb: an environment variable is much worse if you can avoid it
[19:15:07] lupine: in a config file, I'd keep the username and password separate to the URL
[19:15:25] lupine: much easier to ensure the password is filtered out of the log files that way
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[19:16:16] Papierkorb: OTOH, not only is that code for stuff URIs support OOTB, but also you're at the mercy of the developer to do things correctly
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[19:17:03] lupine: we're developers. we're here to write code, right?
[19:17:39] lupine: chances are the first thing you're going to log is going to be the URL. that's going to output the password ot the log destination
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[19:17:48] lupine: if you're unlucky, that's going to be syslog on a remote host somewhere
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[19:17:58] Papierkorb: We're also here to think about what we code.
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[19:23:05] kitikonti: anyone here who can help me with middleman?
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[19:23:31] kitikonti: i output a variable and the result is {:about=>"about"}
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[19:23:53] kitikonti: so how could i access value of this?
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[19:25:49] ineb: variable[:about]
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[19:27:20] arthurl: is anyone here familiar with the following error? '/usr/bin/env: ruby_executable_hooks: No such file or directory'
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[19:27:28] arthurl: seeing this when attempting to do a bundle install
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[19:33:55] kitikonti: ineb omg thx i got it, i wrote the [:about] part inside the function which returns the array and not after the array
[19:37:06] kitikonti: ineb if i want to replace the array key (:about) with a variable (current_page.data.path) but this variable is without the : how do i have to do this?
[19:37:23] kitikonti: variable[:current_page.data.path] is not working
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[19:39:02] ineb: i think youre missing something here. if unsure, check whats the class of your object with variable.class.name
[19:39:19] ineb: looks like youre dealing with a hash.
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[19:44:42] kitikonti: ineb thx i am new to ruby
[19:45:58] kitikonti: ineb ok this returns HASH
[19:46:45] ineb: if you dont know, check the docs to see, what a hash is.
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[19:56:55] CodeAleks: Just started learning ruby ( finished codecademy course, yeah i know not the best ), was browsing throw ruby website and came across RubyMonk and Koans which one should i start with? Any suggestions
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[20:02:34] havenwood: CodeAleks: I think those are good ones to go through.
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[20:04:55] CodeAleks: Thank you havenwood
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[20:22:17] zacts: hi rubyists
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[20:37:00] spudowiar: zacts: Hallo
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[20:41:26] leea: So I'm trying to do metaprogramming, and I'm wondering if there's a class version of initialize where I can call this code from https://gist.github.com/drwl/148eae697769692743510be47148163d
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[20:44:12] leea: so I discovered I can just put it in the class without it being wrapped in a method and that it will achieve the desired effect. Is this bad practice?
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[20:51:10] havenwood: leea: an aside but interpolating a Symbol will already call #to_s on it
[20:51:58] leea: havenwood: got it, made the fix :)
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[20:56:48] flashpoint9: Im doing Ruby Koans and would appreciate it if someone could explain/elaborate why this returns nil assert_equal nil, "start end"[/\Aend/]
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[20:57:52] eam: flashpoint9: which part of "start end"[/\Aend/] are you curious about? Can you explain the parts of that expression you understand, and where you get stuck?
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[20:58:47] flashpoint9: Im actually not clear on the /A for regular expressions, it only works if the first word of the string matches the pattern?
[20:59:04] eam: it anchors the pattern to the start of the string
[20:59:06] elomatreb: \A anchors the regex to the beginning of the string
[20:59:17] eam: so "start end" =~ /\Astart/ # matches
[20:59:29] elomatreb: Regex protip: http://www.rubular.com/
[21:00:25] tummy: Need a little help -- trying to understand the if and not structure in Ruby: This code snippet errors out. http://pastebin.com/XCELD8JJ
[21:00:35] ruby[bot]: tummy: we in #ruby do not like pastebin.com, I reposted your paste to gist for you: https://gist.github.com/81084a4700b8efc166c3c5a9cd8431a0
[21:00:35] ruby[bot]: tummy: pastebin.com loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting.
[21:00:40] MOgolid: Can someone help me, i cant connect to a irc server l (connection refused) When i try to connect from VPN.
[21:00:57] flashpoint9: Ok, I think I understand and I will do more tests on that site, thanks for that. O
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[21:02:38] elomatreb: tummy: Ruby if is basically like in other languages, "and" + "!" are boolean operators
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[21:04:09] leea: MOgolid are you able to connect to other irc servers?
[21:04:37] leea: MOgolid it could be: 1) the VPN ip is blocked for that IRC server, 2) irc ports are blocked on your vpn, 3) other
[21:04:37] MOgolid: Only quakenet is fuckd
[21:04:52] tummy: @elomatreb Totally new at this. But even changing it around to if and doesn't seem to work
[21:04:55] MOgolid: connection refuesed
[21:05:16] leea: can you connect to that server without the vpn?
[21:05:20] elomatreb: tummy: Mh, ok. Do you know how if works in other languages?
[21:05:38] MOgolid: leea: i can connect with vpn from a WEBChat , but not from a irc client
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[21:06:40] elomatreb: tummy: OK. In Ruby, due to the dynamic nature of the language, every object can be coerced into a boolean value. Everything but nil and false evaluate to true
[21:06:46] leea: i'm not too sure, maybe there's another channel to ask for irc help?
[21:07:10] elomatreb: MOgolid: Some networks don't allow VPNs, they portscan the connecting host
[21:07:26] MOgolid: elomatreb: can i open the ports?
[21:07:35] MOgolid: or change it
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[21:08:15] elomatreb: MOgolid: There's probably little you can do if that is actually the problem
[21:08:28] tummy: @elomatreb k
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[21:08:56] MOgolid: i think i can do something
[21:09:31] MOgolid: Cuz i have 2 vpns.. and from the other one i can connect to quakenet
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[21:09:40] leea: are they the same vpn?
[21:09:48] MOgolid: other host
[21:09:57] leea: then it's possible it might be some ports are blocked on one vpn and not the other
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[21:10:08] leea: or maybe the vpn ip is banned
[21:10:11] elomatreb: Could also be that one VPN provider blocks IRC. Verizon does/did this
[21:10:57] leea: elomatreb would you mind taking a look at this? https://gist.github.com/drwl/dfb0588b4eef2dab56a1a9332832cc7a I'm wondering if there's anything to work on the first version, or if the 2nd version is more preferred (i think this would be called a macro, right?)
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[21:11:17] MOgolid: Its possible to open som ports? with (Macports?
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[21:11:59] MOgolid: .search Best VPN service
[21:12:14] elomatreb: leea: I'm not a Ruby professional, but I'll take a look
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[21:12:58] MOgolid: What is ruby?
[21:13:16] elomatreb: You're in the Ruby channel?
[21:13:19] MOgolid: ACTION slap ruby[bot]
[21:13:36] MOgolid: Yeah. i have ruby
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[21:14:02] CodeAleks: Im a noob aswell
[21:14:11] havenwood: MOgolid: #freenode is better for general IRC questions or feel free to join #ruby-offtopic for off-topic discussion
[21:14:15] CodeAleks: It's a noob party!
[21:14:15] havenwood: CodeAleks: welcome!
[21:14:17] jhass: we're here to answer specific questions, not tutor you
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[21:16:37] leea: jhass is there a way to achieve the first version, or is the bottom way preferred? https://gist.github.com/drwl/dfb0588b4eef2dab56a1a9332832cc7a
[21:16:39] CodeAleks: Too many cooks spoil the broth while too many hints lead the hunter astray
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[21:16:54] elomatreb: leea: I think what might be tripping you up is that attr_accessor doesn't immediately create the instance vars
[21:17:43] jhass: only assignment does, yeah
[21:17:48] jhass: when it's actually executed
[21:18:05] jhass: additionally there's no defined point at which a class definition is "done"
[21:18:14] elomatreb: leea: Again I'm not the expert, but I think you could override attr_accessor on your parent class to create them
[21:18:39] jhass: leea: attr_accessor is itself just a method call defining methods. Make your own
[21:18:52] leea: so the bottom version would be preferred?
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[21:19:01] jhass: just define the accessors in your find_methods method
[21:19:13] jhass: and maybe pick a better name
[21:19:27] elomatreb: The top version is def. fancier, but the bottom one is easier to understand if you're looking through code I'd say
[21:19:56] jhass: leea: not preferred, possible at all
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[21:23:48] leea: jhass are there any naming conventions when it comes to this? I'm not able to find anything on google
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[21:24:03] jhass: not that I noticed
[21:24:17] jhass: I'd probably just go with property or so
[21:24:21] leea: elomatreb got it. that's what i thought for the bottom one.
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[21:28:51] leea: thanks for the help jhass elomatreb :)
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[21:40:55] CodeAleks: Goodnight everyone, ruby time over. Have to wake up for a boring bank job. Adios
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[21:42:35] spudowiar: I am without job, heh
[21:42:41] spudowiar: But I am just 14 year old boy, meh
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[21:46:47] kitikonti: how to write variable[:key] if "key" is also a variable?
[21:47:26] jhass: variable[key]
[21:47:44] jhass: foo[bar] is just syntax sugar for foo.[](bar)
[21:48:11] kitikonti: jhass my problem is the ":"
[21:48:27] jhass: it shouldn't be of any
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[21:48:51] jhass: if your variable is user input and a string, your hash should be defined with string keys in the first place
[21:48:58] spudowiar: kitikonti: variable[:key] == variable['key'.to_sym]
[21:49:11] jhass: forget about that
[21:49:18] spudowiar: kitikonti: but if you just use variable['key'] everything is fine
[21:49:19] jhass: to_sym is the wrong solution in 90% of the cases
[21:49:25] jhass: define your hash with string keys
[21:49:37] spudowiar: jhass: I'm just explaining, not suggesting him to use :)
[21:49:48] kitikonti: jhass i cant define this hash
[21:49:54] spudowiar: jhass: using symbols can be useful
[21:49:58] jhass: spudowiar: I didn't see any disclaimer not to use it
[21:50:10] spudowiar: jhass: e.g. HELLO = :hello, BYE = :bye, SWITCHER = HELLO, hash[SWITCHER]
[21:50:18] jhass: spudowiar: sorry but that hardly was any explanation for somebody confused about symbols
[21:50:44] spudowiar: jhass: yah, I leave the explaining to you :)
[21:50:45] jhass: spudowiar: using symbols, yes. using to_sym, very very rarely
[21:50:46] spudowiar: I do the damage
[21:50:49] spudowiar: You fix it :)
[21:50:57] spudowiar: We are a comedy act :)
[21:51:01] kitikonti: to_sym by the way works :->
[21:51:03] spudowiar: jhass and the spudowiar
[21:51:07] spudowiar: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[21:51:07] leea: symbol keys for hashes are bad?
[21:51:12] jhass: see what you did there
[21:51:13] spudowiar: jhass: fix it all now :)
[21:51:25] jhass: kitikonti: so, where does the hash come from, where does the variable come from?
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[21:51:39] kitikonti: the hash comes from middleman
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[21:51:55] jhass: good, open source then
[21:52:01] jhass: where exactly?
[21:52:09] kitikonti: https://middlemanapp.com/advanced/localization/
[21:52:20] jhass: let's make this as little abstract as possible
[21:52:45] jhass: I18n.t takes string keys just fine
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[21:53:01] jhass: so, what exactly are you doing?
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[21:53:52] kitikonti: in this yml files for each language you also translate the paths (urls)
[21:54:13] kitikonti: now i want to generate a menu
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[21:55:02] kitikonti: in another yml file i have the readable name of the menu items and the key to each one which is the same as the key in the paths array
[21:55:29] kitikonti: so i loop my menu items, and now i want to get the path from the paths array in the yml file
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[21:56:14] jhass: which paths array?
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[21:56:27] jhass: can you show some code?
[21:56:29] ruby[bot]: https://gist.github.com - Multiple files, syntax highlighting, even automatically with matching filenames, can be edited
[21:56:36] kitikonti: the one from the link i pasted
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[21:57:01] jhass: well, there's a single array on that page
[21:57:07] jhass: and it has nothing to do with any paths
[21:57:27] al2o3-cr: is it possible to create nested structs/unions with fiddle?
[21:57:59] jhass: [this, is, an, array] and {this => is, a => hash} also {this: is, a: hash_too}
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[21:58:54] kitikonti: jhass https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c26aab7e6a427ae751e5be88a759e4da
[21:59:45] kitikonti: this are now the yml files for englisch
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[22:01:12] jhass: okay, I have a better solution to this, hold on while I'll try to improve something else too
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[22:04:20] jhass: kitikonti: I'm a bit confused by your intention, you loop only over the map for I18n.locale, yet pass a locale to t explicitly?
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[22:05:05] jhass: kitikonti: anyway, https://p.jhass.eu/4d.rb should work as well
[22:05:24] jhass: eh, not name, path of course in the interpolation
[22:06:30] jhass: rule of thumb: use public_send over send and most method like interfaces to arbitrary data act like a hash (have [] defined) too
[22:07:06] jhass: so if your key is dynamic look out for a [] or fetch or similar method before resorting to public_send
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[22:09:27] wrkrcoop: im trying to check my response code is a 400 something
[22:09:40] wrkrcoop: i tried 400.to_s =~ /4../ and it returns 0
[22:09:48] wrkrcoop: dont i want 1 for true?
[22:10:07] jhass: 0 is truthy in ruby
[22:10:12] jhass: but it's a terrible way
[22:10:14] kitikonti: jhass thx this works
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[22:10:20] wrkrcoop: jhass: how should i do it
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[22:10:39] jhass: just use lower than etc
[22:10:41] wrkrcoop: is 1 falsy?
[22:10:50] jhass: only nil and false are falsey
[22:10:53] jhass: everything else is truthy
[22:10:57] wrkrcoop: but what if the code is 3xx and thats not what im looking for
[22:11:11] jhass: code >= 400 && code < 500
[22:11:13] wrkrcoop: so if a regex returns 0 or 1 that means true?
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[22:11:21] wrkrcoop: jhass smart
[22:11:26] jhass: not really
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[22:11:28] jhass: very basic
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[22:11:49] jhass: and a regex doesn't return anything, the methods you call on it or pass it to do
[22:11:57] jhass: in this case String#=~
[22:12:05] jhass: which returns the index in the string of the first match
[22:12:15] jhass: or nil if there was no match
[22:13:03] jhass: kitikonti: yw
[22:13:26] kitikonti: jhass maybe it would be better to learn ruby before using it :-)
[22:13:51] jhass: well I do the thing
[22:13:55] jhass: *the same I mean
[22:14:13] jhass: just do something in the language in order to learn it
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[22:15:31] jhass: if it's similar enough to something you know already it works well enough
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[22:37:05] domgetter: Is there any way to return a non-array from #to_a without modifying Ruby source?
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[22:38:58] eam: >> class Array; def to_a; "sure"; end; end; [].to_a
[22:39:11] eam: well, if the bot was working it'd say "sure"
[22:40:22] domgetter: class Array; def to_a; "sure"; end; end; puts(*[]) # I should have clarified for the purpose of the splat operator
[22:40:40] domgetter: It works if you call to_a yourself, but not when you use the splat
[22:41:05] postmodern: is there a decent robots.txt parser out there? i don't need it to request /robots.txt, just parse the data and build a rule-set
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[22:59:02] domgetter: eam: https://eval.in/607359 Here's an example of trying to use splat with Regexp
[23:02:00] eam: domgetter: I'm a little confused as to what you're after. The splat operation does need to operate on an Array
[23:02:12] eam: you can change it, but if you do things won't work
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[23:16:04] shevy: https://github.com/ruby/ruby/blob/trunk/ChangeLog#L3 - finally chuck norris will be pleased with ruby for he gets to query Numeric#finite?
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[23:29:42] dannyh: i dont know how much code to post here for this question
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[23:30:00] dannyh: i have a simple controller action, initiated via post using remote: true, which renders a .js.erb file
[23:30:17] Radar: ?rails Danny_
[23:30:17] ruby[bot]: Danny_: Please join #RubyOnRails for Rails questions. You need to be identified with NickServ, see /msg NickServ HELP
[23:30:30] dannyh: shoot, stupid limechat, sorry
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