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[01:48:02] c_nick: ruby equivalent of "%+0*d"%(5, -3)?
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[01:50:26] c_nick: got it.. i need to replace () with []
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[03:43:14] irregular: just want to double check but do method parameters with default values always have to be at the end of a method signature?
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[03:43:37] irregular: i.e. foo(a,b=2) will work but foo(b=2,a) will never work?
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[03:44:02] banisterfiend: irregular niether of those do what you think they do
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[03:44:35] irregular: banisterfiend:i mean def foo(a,b=2) {} and def foo(b=2,a) {}
[03:44:59] irregular: I'm asking because I get a compile error from pulling a coworker
[03:45:12] irregular: s code and I'm wondering if it actually worked for him
[03:45:29] banisterfiend: irregular they have to be at the end
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[03:46:02] irregular: banisterfiend:ok thanks. i'll ping him and i guess get an answer in the morning
[03:46:09] banisterfiend: irregular no i'm wrong
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[03:46:48] banisterfiend: play with it in irb :)
[03:48:17] irregular: hmm i am getting syntax error, unexpected '=', expecting ')' but if I switch all the variables with defaults to the end it works
[03:48:47] banisterfiend: irregular what ruby version?
[03:50:31] banisterfiend: irregular: you get a sntax error when you do htis in 2.3.1? def hello(a=1, b); end ?
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[03:51:41] irregular: def fill_form(a=1,b,c=2); end doesn't work but def fill_form(b, a=1,c=2); end works
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[03:52:17] irregular: so i was assuming the ordering is though issue but i also have some confidence my coworker wouldn't push that if that didn't work hmm
[03:53:09] banisterfiend: irregular that's different, you have default, non default, default
[03:53:22] banisterfiend: irregular that's not valid in any ruby version. But just having default, non-default is fine
[03:54:35] banisterfiend: your original code is default, non-default. That's valid. But the code you just posted now (fill_form) is different, that's default, non default, default. That's not valid
[03:55:43] irregular: actually the code i pulled is like so def fill_form(a,b,c,d,e=1,f,g=1) end but I'm sure that's also not valid
[03:55:58] irregular: I'll send him a message. thanks.
[03:56:15] irregular: wasn't sure if i was missing anything
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[04:02:15] irregular: is fill_form(a,b,c,d,e=1,f) valid? (this compiles fine for me though), just feeling out the rules here
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[04:31:21] jorvis: I'm completely new to Ruby, but needed to modify someone's gem. When I run the script which calls it I don't see the change. Do gems need to be rebuilt/compiled if the code changes, and how? The file I changed (if it helps with rebuild syntax) is: /var/lib/gems/1.9.1/gems/sequenceserver-1.0.8/lib/sequenceserver/sequence.rb
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[04:39:12] jorvis: I also tried "# gem build sequenceserver.gemspec" and got rebuild output but my change doesn't seem to be evident
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[08:12:26] syndikate: Could somebody help me include a json file in my gem?
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[08:13:07] Hello: When adding two variables do you need to use +?
[08:13:29] syndikate: What variables? You mean string?
[08:13:31] cfec0b8d: syndikate: http://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.0.0/libdoc/json/rdoc/JSON.html ?
[08:13:42] Hello: floating point
[08:13:57] syndikate: cfec0b8d, no, I am writing a gem
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[08:14:05] syndikate: I have some config for that gem stored in a json file
[08:14:13] syndikate: when I build the gem it is not being included
[08:14:22] syndikate: I am not sure how to correct gemspec for that
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[08:16:57] syndikate: nvm, figured it
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[08:22:10] Hello: Do you need to use semicolons when ending a statement?
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[09:12:29] dminuoso: How would you name an exception that denotes a remote service cannot service an automated request, requiring me to fill out a form and request the information that way instead?
[09:14:29] Zarthus: I think the exception name matters less than the exception message.
[09:15:12] Zarthus: <RemoteServiceName>RequestError would work as very basic thing
[09:15:22] rubirc: RemoteServiceError
[09:15:40] Hello: Does ruby support m68K
[09:15:58] rubirc: how much memory do you have on your m68K?
[09:16:57] rubirc: nope it doesnt
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[09:18:04] rubirc: what, it actually does
[09:18:06] rubirc: https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/12118
[09:18:42] rubirc: why do people have this weired fetish for old obsolete technology
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[09:26:31] dminuoso: Zarthus: It's a fair point.
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[09:27:25] Zarthus: yeah, if you require human interaction you'd probably be showing the exception message to the user
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[09:27:58] sheepman: Are nested begin..rescue..end blocks ok?
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[09:33:32] Zarthus: sheepman: i've seen them before but they're ideally avoided
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[09:33:44] sheepman: Zarthus: ok thanks
[09:34:14] Zarthus: some things (like an infinite loop) is often wrapped in a begin/rescue with multiple nested rescues
[09:34:33] Zarthus: er, nested begin/rescues*
[09:34:50] Zarthus: Generally speaking though, you want your begin-rescue block to be as small as possible.
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[09:40:59] ytti_: http://thedailywtf.com/articles/the-inner-json-effect
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[10:52:26] pard: i'm trying to make the whole ruby syntax known to all!
[10:52:46] pard: but i actually need help doing that
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[10:53:35] pard: because i'm not a native speaker of english, and i have terrble markdown skills :\
[10:54:28] pard: take this for example
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[10:55:30] pard: >> def l(); l = 12; while true; (l<=0)?(return l):next end; print l
[10:55:31] ruby[bot]: pard: # => /tmp/execpad-5f75b2940416/source-5f75b2940416:7: syntax error, unexpected end-of-input, expecting ke ...check link for more (https://eval.in/613862)
[10:55:44] pard: >> def l(); l = 12; while true; (l<=0)?(return l):next end; end print l
[10:55:45] ruby[bot]: pard: # => /tmp/execpad-da7f6443ed1a/source-da7f6443ed1a:2: syntax error, unexpected tIDENTIFIER, expecting key ...check link for more (https://eval.in/613863)
[10:57:18] pard: >> def l(); l = 12; while true; (l<=0)?(return l): (next (l-=1)) end; end; print l
[10:57:19] ruby[bot]: pard: # => 0nil (https://eval.in/613864)
[10:57:52] pard: could i ask all help me do it?
[10:58:11] pard: wouldn't it be great?
[10:59:43] pard: i'm actually creating a compilation from every thing that can be done in ruby
[11:00:07] al2o3-cr: pard: good luck with that :p
[11:00:33] pard: al2o3-cr, could i ask you about 'void expressions'?
[11:01:09] pard: >> l = while false; if 12; 12 else break end end
[11:01:10] ruby[bot]: pard: # => nil (https://eval.in/613866)
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[11:01:51] al2o3-cr: me no likey
[11:01:52] Zarthus: >> l = while false; if 12; 12 else break end end; l
[11:01:53] ruby[bot]: Zarthus: # => nil (https://eval.in/613867)
[11:02:03] Zarthus: not sure what we're trying to do
[11:02:43] pard: >> l = while false; w = if 12; 12 else break end end # Zarthus
[11:02:44] ruby[bot]: pard: # => /tmp/execpad-cd79c2763d4d/source-cd79c2763d4d:2: void value expression ...check link for more (https://eval.in/613869)
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[11:03:01] pard: ACTION absconds
[11:03:07] Zarthus: well when you're using `while false' it's reallly just doing nothing
[11:03:18] al2o3-cr: ACTION shakes head
[11:03:36] Zarthus: this is not the ruby i know and love :(
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[11:04:28] al2o3-cr: STDIN or $stdin ?
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[11:08:46] al2o3-cr: >> [Process.pid, $$, syscall(20) ]
[11:08:47] ruby[bot]: al2o3-cr: # => [1877, 1877, 1877] (https://eval.in/613873)
[11:09:01] al2o3-cr: STDIN or $stdin ? preferences anyone
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[11:11:09] Mon_Ouie: Use the STDIN constant only if you specifically need to reference the actual standard input, the global variable can be changed e.g. to redirect the input stream
[11:12:43] al2o3-cr: Mon_Ouie: So if i was to make standard input non-blocking i'd use STDIN?
[11:14:03] Mon_Ouie: Probably since you can't usually do that with other types of inputs. You could still argue the other way, e.g. for testing purposes.
[11:15:04] rubirc: https://youtu.be/8bZh5LMaSmE?t=1039 does anyone why her minitests are so fabulously colored?
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[11:15:37] Mon_Ouie: require 'minitest/pride' ?
[11:16:55] al2o3-cr: Mon_Ouie: this is what i was attempting: f = STDIN.fcntl(Fcntl::F_GETFL); f = f | Fcntl::O_NONBLOCK; STDIN.fcntl(Fcntl::F_SETFL, f)
[11:17:10] al2o3-cr: just wasn't sure to use the constant or the global
[11:17:20] rubirc: that is the gayest thing ever
[11:18:10] al2o3-cr: so to do something like this, i'd use the STDIN constant right?
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[11:19:09] Mon_Ouie: I think I would. Have you also looked into io/console? I think it has methods to do this without you using fcntl directly.
[11:20:12] al2o3-cr: Mon_Ouie: really, i'll have a look round io/console
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[11:50:11] al2o3-cr: Mon_Ouie: I think i can make it work with STDIN.read_nonblock seeing that setting flags on STDIN as no effect anyway.
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[12:01:57] rubirc: i can't decide what I should use for strings
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[12:03:42] ruurd: Use '' unless you need to use "" (if you need to do string interpolation"
[12:03:42] al2o3-cr: " if interpolating ' otherwise
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[12:04:33] ruurd: This implies that ' is faster than " (because it does not invoke the interpolation logic)
[12:04:49] ruurd: The best thing is to use rubocop
[12:05:15] rubirc: that is a good ruke
[12:05:37] rubirc: until now i would just use whatever I felt like writing
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[12:54:07] jobat: Has anyone tried any game dev stuff in ruby? I came across gosu on github and was intrigued
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[13:05:03] dminuoso: Do you feel rstrip should also strip things like non breaking whitespace?
[13:05:20] dminuoso: jobat: No, and neither should you.
[13:05:49] dminuoso: jobat: Ruby is not designed to be fast or efficient at solving problem. It's designed to be fast and efficient at writing code.
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[13:06:50] Zarthus: you could write a small console game for fun using ruby but I wouldn't go further than that
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[13:16:35] dminuoso: Any more elegant solution to strip any whitespace from the end of a string than gsub(/[[:space:]]\Z/, '') ?
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[13:18:03] jobat: str.rstrip
[13:18:15] jobat: http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.2.0/String.html#method-i-rstrip
[13:18:29] dminuoso: >> " ".rstrip
[13:18:30] ruby[bot]: dminuoso: # => " " (https://eval.in/613978)
[13:18:35] dminuoso: jobat: So no.
[13:18:53] dminuoso: But for what its worth, I stared at this for a while to understand why rstrip wouldn't work.
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[13:19:00] jobat: oh wow i totally ignored your previous messages
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[13:20:27] jobat: interestingly, " ".rstrip works for me in irb on ruby 2.1.2
[13:20:43] jobat: but that might be because it's not breaking whitespace
[13:20:49] jobat: *breaking whitespace, duh
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[13:21:46] dminuoso: >> "  ".codepoints # jobat
[13:21:47] ruby[bot]: dminuoso: # => [32, 160] (https://eval.in/613979)
[13:22:22] jobat: yeah, I realised about halfway through typing. Still pressed enter though, like a fool.
[13:22:53] Zarthus: I don't think #rstrip should strip those personallly speaking, especially since it's easier to extend a method than to subtract from it
[13:22:56] dminuoso: jobat: The sheer amount of headaches I got when I started Ruby development on OSX is unbelievable.
[13:23:10] Zarthus: also nbsp is mostly used in webdesign afaik
[13:23:12] dminuoso: (Ruby code randomly didn't work until I delete the line and retyped it)
[13:23:28] dminuoso: Until I realized there was some key combination that by default generated nbsp on OSX.
[13:23:30] Zarthus: (in addition: the amount of breakage this change *could* produce would be through the roof, and it wouldn't be obvious)
[13:23:59] dminuoso: Zarthus: Which is why it will never happen, I know how the core developers in Ruby react to such patches.
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[13:25:10] Zarthus: personally though, if this is your only case, I'd just roll with str.rstrip.replace(..., '')
[13:25:20] dminuoso: But then again, rstrip would have to be extended to encompass all whitespace characters in all encodings.
[13:25:25] dminuoso: Limiting to only ASCII whitespace is sensible.
[13:25:49] dminuoso: Zarthus: No can do, it might replace nbsp inside the middle of a string.
[13:26:12] Zarthus: right, forgot about that *small detail*
[13:26:15] dminuoso: Zarthus: Also, the nbsp comes from a mechanize based module that scrapes websites... :o)
[13:26:17] Zarthus: yeah, a regex would be the way to go
[13:26:35] Zarthus: I personally like \s more then [[:space:]], but that's me
[13:26:49] Zarthus: not sure if \s captures nbsp though
[13:26:55] jobat: [[:space:]] is the POSIX one right?
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[13:27:37] jokke: in celluloid is there some kind of id for the actor? I want to have a unique id for log messages per actor
[13:27:40] jobat: I think I remember having to use something similar with some ancient version of grep
[13:29:37] dminuoso: Zarthus: I prefer [[:space"]] for readabilities sake.
[13:29:42] dminuoso: Regex are horrid enough as they are.
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[13:30:09] Zarthus: i agree, but I tend to wrap up regexes into some compiled variable/constant or method most of the time
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[13:30:31] Zarthus: especially something like this will probably see repeated use.
[13:30:56] dminuoso: Zarthus: The key issue is that it may not immediately be obvious when you sometimes use \s and sometimes \S.
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[14:52:41] Mattx: Hey, I have a function defined in the global (Object?) scope. and I want to know if it's callable from the inside of a method in a class. The name of the function is in a variable myfunc
[14:53:05] Mattx: So for instance I tried methods.include?(myfunc) and respond_to?(myfunc), but both return false
[14:53:24] ljarvis: no it's not
[14:53:39] ljarvis: the "global" scope you're speaking of is not global
[14:53:42] ljarvis: it's just main
[14:53:54] Mattx: ok, main, I just didn't know how it was called
[14:54:14] ljarvis: yeah, i just mean it's not really global, so you can't access it except from main (without some meta hacking)
[14:54:45] ljarvis: if you want to define a method available everywhere your best bet is to include it into the Kernel module
[14:55:00] Mattx: I don't think so, if I try to run the function it works
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[14:55:23] Mattx: I'm trying to do this: send myfunc, "foo", "bar" if respond_to? myfunc
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[14:55:40] Mattx: my point is, "send myfunct foo bar" works, it's callable
[14:55:41] ljarvis: ok, can you show some code?
[14:55:46] Mattx: sure, one sec
[14:56:13] Morxander: I compilled/installed Ruby 2.0.0-p684 from source but I need to install Ruby-dev too but when I do through apt-get it needs to install ruby again too which will conflict my installation
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[14:56:37] ljarvis: Morxander: why will it conflict with your installation?
[14:57:03] OTORelic: morxander, im pretty sure if you remove youre ruby and install ruby-dev it will have a dependency on a ruby version
[14:57:19] OTORelic: so im not sure if you really wanted to/needed to compile from source
[14:57:33] ljarvis: also that's an odd ruby version to pick
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[14:57:47] OTORelic: if anything use RVM or RBENV to manage different ruby versions
[14:57:56] Morxander: I have to work with this patch 684 and I dont know which patch avalible on the ubuntu repo
[14:57:57] dminuoso: Mattx: Also point of interest, a method always belongs to a class (or module).
[14:58:07] OTORelic: youtube.com
[14:58:25] ljarvis: only if you want to call it :D
[14:58:31] dminuoso: Unless its an UnboundMethod of course. :)
[14:58:33] fergal_: hi guys, i’m trying to download a zip that contains an executable, but when i download and unzip it with ruby, the executable file is not marked as executable. however, when i download and unzip it manually, the executable is marked as executable. i’m not sure why this is the case, is there something extra i have to do when unzipping the file via ruby to maintain executable permissions on files?
[14:58:41] Mattx: dminuoso, what's the default class/module when you don't specify one? is it Kernel?
[14:58:49] dminuoso: Mattx: The so called "default definee"
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[14:58:57] dminuoso: Mattx: And that depends on where you are in your code.
[14:59:07] wcarss: does anyone know if there's a doorkeeper irc
[14:59:24] Mattx: I believe my function is defined there, and I want to check before I run it from a variable (myfunc = :function_name)
[14:59:27] wcarss: I looked here and on slashnet in doorkeeper and doorkeeper-dev
[14:59:27] ljarvis: fergal_: not sure, can't you just chmod +x ?
[14:59:30] dminuoso: Mattx: But it gets added to the singleton class (!) of the main object, which gets created during VM initialization.
[14:59:36] Mattx: (I'm writing an example anyway, just a moment)
[15:00:22] ljarvis: Mattx: fwiw (and im not trying to bust your balls), you should refer to them as methods, ruby doesn't have functions per say
[15:00:25] Mattx: https://gist.github.com/2cf88b033902b59f5c2514e0f0a68070
[15:00:28] dminuoso: Mattx: And note this is not pedantry, but accuracy - understanding this removes the magical bits of statements like: def self.blah; ...; end
[15:00:45] Mattx: it works as I expected, I should be doing something wrong in the real code. I'll double check
[15:01:06] OTORelic: fergal_ if your doing it in a ruby script and know the name just hardcode the permissions change for the executable after the unzip happens
[15:01:30] ljarvis: Mattx: im confused at what you want, you say "it works as expected", so you expect this not to work?
[15:01:49] Mattx: dminuoso, yeah, I know what you mean. I wanted to make it clear the "function" doesn't beloing to a class I have defined. it was "global" (belonging to main or whatever it's called)
[15:01:54] OTORelic: File.chmod(0644, "testfile", "out") #example
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[15:02:06] Mattx: ljarvis, I expected it to print 6, which is what it does
[15:02:14] Mattx: so the bug is somewhere else. I'm checking
[15:02:14] ljarvis: eh, it shouldn't print 6..
[15:02:35] Mattx: it does, believe me :P
[15:02:38] ljarvis: because that respond_to? call should return false
[15:02:43] ljarvis: what ruby version?
[15:03:02] ljarvis: https://eval.in/614031
[15:03:05] ljarvis: i mean.. it really doesn't
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[15:03:09] ljarvis: so you have something else mixed up
[15:03:19] Mattx: it does in pry
[15:03:29] Mattx: does it make any differenece?
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[15:04:07] Mattx: alright, that's the problem them. in pry it works as I thought it would, but the real code is obviously run in ruby (not pry)
[15:04:26] Mattx: so what's the explanation?
[15:04:46] ljarvis: in pry, your method example is added to Object
[15:04:50] ljarvis: which means it's callable anywhere
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[15:05:03] ljarvis: in pry, try def foo() end; p method(:foo)
[15:05:11] ljarvis: or method(:foo).owner
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[15:06:09] Mattx: got it, it's Object
[15:07:05] ljarvis: actually im confused a bit
[15:07:28] Mattx: in the real code when I run method(:descriptive) I get #<Method: Repository(Object)#descriptive>
[15:07:36] Mattx: then I run method(:descriptive).owner and I get Object
[15:07:44] Mattx: and respond_to? :descriptive returns false
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[15:30:17] wcarss: anyone here have experience with doorkeeper? or know a channel that would be more specific
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[15:31:34] Zarthus: you could try searching with /msg alis list
[15:31:47] Zarthus: if you ask your question someone might be able to answer it as well
[15:32:05] Zarthus: that is assuming doorkeeper is related to ruby, and not a job to hold the door.
[15:32:20] wcarss: yes, it's a common authentication gem
[15:32:48] Zarthus: if it's rails related, see ?rails
[15:32:59] wcarss: I run a server that uses doorkeeper for authorizing oauth applications, and someone has sent a request to me to add an application with a query parameter in it
[15:33:15] rails: oh god i knew coming in here on this nick was a bad idea
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[15:33:26] wcarss: not a dynamic one, just a static parameter to say what the source of the arrival is
[15:33:50] wcarss: doorkeeper doesn't allow dynamic query parameters, but I don't see anything that says they disallow static ones
[15:33:54] Zarthus: rails: coming in anywhere with that name sounds like a bad idea
[15:34:10] wcarss: yet when I add a static one... the gem says it's invalid
[15:34:23] rails: i oper a 25k user network with this nick :>
[15:34:27] havenwood: wcarss: Since it's an OAuth 2 provider for Rails, the #RubyOnRails channel would be a bit more specific.
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[15:34:46] wcarss: good suggestion havenwood! thanks
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[16:23:34] Terens: which books are good for beginners at testing genneraly
[16:23:34] Terens: and particulary for minitest?
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[16:53:29] Dysp: Hi there. https://gist.github.com/Dysp/76f598d0abc39ab439954f9cc4529c27
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[16:53:50] Dysp: Why am I getting NoMethodError: NoMethodError: undefined method `extract_values' for KincomLoader:Module?
[16:54:41] Dysp: If I add :extract_values to module_function, then it works. But that makes the function public, right? I don't want that. Load_file should be the only public method here.
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[16:57:44] drbrain: Dysp: on line 18 in xerciseclass.rb you don't ned KincomLoader::
[16:57:58] drbrain: if you instead: data = load_file(file)
[16:58:03] drbrain: it'll work like you expect
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[16:58:55] drbrain: Dysp: include makes methods in the module appear as instance methods in the including class
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[17:02:31] Dysp: drbrain: Thank you. Do you have any great resources on how to build these hierarchies? I find it extremely necessary to understand, but also so incredible hard to comprehend
[17:03:00] Dysp: drbrain: Actually, still doesn't solve my problem.
[17:03:25] Dysp: NoMethodError: undefined method `extract_values' for KincomLoader:Module
[17:03:28] drbrain: Dysp: http://www.poodr.com is the best book
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[17:03:34] Dysp: I've read it :|
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[17:04:39] Dysp: I think I am going to build this first and then reread it to try to refactor it. It is hard to understand all the concepts; I've learnt a lot from it, but it is a little abstract for a complete programming newbie like myself.
[17:04:51] drbrain: ACTION nods
[17:05:17] Dysp: But, back to my original problem. Still getting NoMethodError: undefined method `extract_values' for KincomLoader:Module
[17:05:24] Dysp: Even thought it is right there in the module.
[17:05:35] drbrain: can you update the gist and include the output of running it?
[17:05:54] Dysp: There is a lot of noise
[17:05:58] Dysp: What do you want in particular?
[17:06:07] Dysp: (Getting a lot of exceptions from a gem that mean nothing)
[17:06:11] drbrain: the new error, and what line it is on
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[17:06:19] drbrain: ah, running with `-d` then
[17:07:12] Dysp: No, not even
[17:07:22] Dysp: Just ran that; that was even worse.
[17:07:32] Dysp: I think it is minitest, but I also haven't figured out how to turn that off.
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[17:08:12] Dysp: Maybe you can tell from my test, though.
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[17:08:49] Dysp: drbrain: Updated gist
[17:10:01] drbrain: so you get the error from line 3 of test.rb
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[17:10:14] drbrain: are you using minitest?
[17:10:24] Dysp: Only gave you a snippet of the tests, though
[17:10:27] drbrain: yes to minitest?
[17:10:33] Dysp: Yes to Minitest. First try with it.
[17:10:37] Dysp: With everything, really.
[17:11:05] Dysp: I've come far, trust me :D
[17:11:08] drbrain: I use one of two strategies for testing modules in minitest
[17:12:50] Dysp: Well, I am actually testing the class that includes the module
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[17:13:23] drbrain: https://gist.github.com/drbrain/7c0361031ea0252669d85fa63bccd02d
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[17:13:51] Dysp: Could separate it, though. But I wanna keep it a little simple, then I can also get more files (gosh) when the others become a little too complex
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[17:14:11] drbrain: in the `test_kincom_loading` test you call the method directly on KincomLoader, so in my view you're testing the module directly
[17:14:37] Dysp: Yes, I am.
[17:14:52] drbrain: in my gist the first method, include_module, is what I start with for testing modules
[17:15:10] drbrain: it works great so long as the module doesn't have any state that might conflict with minitest
[17:15:31] drbrain: when the module starts having extra state I'll switch to the test-only class version so the module's functionality stays isolated
[17:15:47] Dysp: I wish I had money just to pay you
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[17:16:23] drbrain: no worries
[17:16:26] drbrain: pay it forward
[17:16:37] Dysp: Not for this; but to actually do what I am trying to do.
[17:16:45] Dysp: I wish I could hire someone to collaborate on.
[17:16:47] Dysp: Nevermind, off topic
[17:17:02] Dysp: So I should test the module; but would you do this in another file
[17:17:21] Dysp: Or in the same file as you test the class?
[17:17:31] Dysp: (That I originally had the module test in)
[17:17:39] Dysp: And also which includes the module
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[17:18:24] drbrain: since the module methods aren't accessible without adding module_function I would test them separate
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[17:18:58] drbrain: then, for XerciseClass tests, only have enough of a test to make sure they get called
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[17:20:39] Dysp: Yes, I will be splitting them up. Thank you for you help. Would you have any interest in looking through the repository and point out stuff that is stupid and should be made differently?
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[17:22:01] Dysp: I mean, I could just share it in here and ask; and even thought I am definetly not creating a potential new Facebook, I still wanna keep some things at least a tiny bit disclosed.
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[17:26:56] drbrain: I don't have a bunch of time for looking through things, unfortunately
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[17:28:37] Dysp: Alrighty ^^
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[17:46:35] Dysp: I have a test that sometimes fails, sometimes succeeds. I am clueless. Hilfe
[17:47:08] Dysp: Why the hell does that happen?
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[18:18:40] joevandyk: this is taking up 500MB of memory.. anyone have any ideas on how to optimize it?
[18:19:10] joevandyk: even before the to_json, building an array of 450k fairly small hashes is taking up about 400MB of memory
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[18:21:43] joevandyk: is that reasonable?
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[18:22:20] ruby898: hello guys. anybody here?
[18:22:21] drbrain: that's 900 bytes per object
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[18:22:36] joevandyk: hm.. so that's reasonable?
[18:23:44] eam: is a fairly small hash around 900 bytes?
[18:23:51] drbrain: >> require 'objspace'; ObjectSpace.memsize_of({"foo" => "bar"})
[18:23:52] ruby[bot]: drbrain: # => 116 (https://eval.in/614073)
[18:24:01] drbrain: I get 232 on a 64 bit machine
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[18:24:35] eam: joevandyk: if you want to minimize that, consider a mmaped k/v store
[18:25:06] joevandyk: drbrain: when i run memsize_of on the result (before turning into json), i get 5171712
[18:25:09] joevandyk: which seems low
[18:25:21] drbrain: it's not recursive
[18:25:23] joevandyk: eam: any particular recommendations?
[18:25:35] joevandyk: ah, just the size of the array, not the size of the array elements?
[18:25:57] drbrain: joevandyk: use yajl's streaming output
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[18:26:09] drbrain: instead of to_json to build a giant string for output (if you can straem)
[18:27:15] eam: joevandyk: lots to pick from. I mostly use ruby-mdbm, but that's more because I'm familiar with the backend tech than for any technical reason
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[18:40:58] joevandyk: i had the idea to try to use a lazy collection, but https://github.com/brianmario/yajl-ruby/issues/144 :(
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