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[00:02:20] swills: i'm hoping someone can help me understand something
[00:02:22] swills: https://github.com/ruby/ruby/blob/trunk/vm_core.h#L982-L983
[00:02:38] swills: fastcall only applies to functions, not types...
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[01:47:46] ule: Which criteria should I considerate in order to decide of creating instance variables @foo + attr_accessor instead of just passing variables via parameters to each function?
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[02:43:50] ineb: ule: if at least every private function uses @foo
[02:44:05] ineb: just a rule of thumb though
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[03:52:23] matzdog: yo lets talk about ruby
[03:52:38] matzdog: i.e. why don't structs accept named parameters?
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[03:53:08] matzdog: putting this as a proposal, structs will accept named parameters in ruby 3.0
[03:53:18] matzdog: why already use this internally in heroku
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[05:10:56] Radar: fascinating.
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[05:44:30] GregUK: Hi, does anyone know if this issue with Hash#freeze is known? https://pastebin.com/yYeK6v42 (or maybe not an issue?)
[05:44:31] ruby[bot]: greg__: we in #ruby do not like pastebin.com, I reposted your paste to gist for you: https://gist.github.com/1114d76e421100e67c70cbc93d77fbbb
[05:44:32] ruby[bot]: greg__: pastebin.com loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting.
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[08:50:47] zsk: Hello, does anyone have any idea about why could I get the error: "`encode': wrong number of arguments (given 1, expected 0) (ArgumentError)" once I perform the command output_data.to_json ?
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[09:16:28] jimhui: hello - need some help. I installed ruby following guide in gorails. I do bundle install and get this error: Your Ruby version is 2.4.0, but your Gemfile specified 2.2.2
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[09:17:26] jimhui: can someone help? - Googling suggestions hasn't helped
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[09:17:51] jimhui: I am using mac and rbenv
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[09:26:07] jimhui: got it fixed.... :-/
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[10:37:40] gokul_mr[m]: Are there good documentation on "When to create private methods in ruby?" or "Best practices on creating private methods"
[10:37:57] yorickpeterse: gokul_mr[m]: typically private methods are used as "helpers" for public methods
[10:38:03] yorickpeterse: Personally I really hate protected/private
[10:38:39] yorickpeterse: mostly because more often than not those helper methods can be incredibly useful to expose, and because there isn't really any harm in doing it either
[10:38:49] yorickpeterse: plus you can workaround private/protected anyway
[10:39:35] yorickpeterse: I feel it also leads to weird API design. That is, you have a public API that depends on a whole bunch of private/custom APIs _instead_ of re-using other public APIs
[10:39:54] yorickpeterse: basically you're hiding useful things from the user, with no real good reason
[10:40:48] gokul_mr[m]: I guess Making it private to avoid writing tests would be a terrible idea :)
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[10:47:28] ar1a: is there a way to get irb to re-include a file?
[10:47:41] ar1a: I want to make changes to my module and run it again, but i need to restart irb every time and require the file
[10:47:44] ar1a: it's gettin annoying
[10:50:10] ljarvis: ar1a: irb -r "./foo" -e 'include Foo'
[10:50:58] ar1a: wait why do i need both?
[10:51:06] ljarvis: actually -e won't work anyway
[10:51:15] ljarvis: well, one does require, one does include
[10:51:32] ar1a: -r is working fine, thanks
[10:51:34] ljarvis: you may not need the latter, and it doesn't work anyway, so just use -r
[10:51:37] ar1a: i feel silly for not checking man
[10:51:45] ljarvis: ya you should
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[11:28:50] gokul_mr[m]: ar1a: I think what you need to do is `load 'file.rb'` when you change the file
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[11:30:57] gokul_mr[m]: While `require_relative 'file'` will not load the file again, `load` will.
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[11:55:37] Francy: https://pastebin.com/x8irHFM4
[11:55:39] ruby[bot]: Francy: we in #ruby do not like pastebin.com, I reposted your paste to gist for you: https://gist.github.com/f4750194e97075954fb4a782f4f24e64
[11:55:39] ruby[bot]: Francy: pastebin.com loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting.
[11:55:47] Francy: why I recive this ?
[11:56:08] Francy: I try to install bot ruby https://github.com/carter/ham-irc-bot
[11:56:16] Francy: thanks in advance
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[17:20:25] ornerymoose: Hello, I’m having an issue where sometimes (not always) there are double quotes at the beginning and end of my generated txt file using CSV.open: https://gist.github.com/ornerymoose/efe6edf111cbb0036d26fe6bc89e6fff What’s the best way to enforce that there will never be quotes at the beginning or end of the generated text file? Sample of some generated output: http://i.imgur.com/hXm1wm1.png
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[17:24:11] unixygir1: Curious if rails questions are asked pretty frequently here or if we have a dedicated channel for rails related content? Thanks
[17:24:41] Kanibal: there is #rubyonrails
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[17:25:00] Kanibal: but most of the people there are probably here as well ;)
[17:25:12] unixygir1: Oh! awesome, thanks Kanibal :>
[17:25:28] unixygir1: I could see why :D haha I'll join over there as well, thanks again !
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[19:28:37] dobs: hi, how can i "puts" directly to the terminal in a portable way EVEN if stdout has been redirected to a file with ">file.txt" ? (e.g.: my_script.rb "blah" > "test.txt", show the output to the terminal)
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[20:00:44] ged: dobs: You can puts to STDERR instead.
[20:03:38] ged: Especially if they are diagnostic messages, that's what STDERR is for. Jesse Storimer has a good post on this: https://www.jstorimer.com/blogs/workingwithcode/7766119-when-to-use-stderr-instead-of-stdout
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