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[08:09:39] MarcWeber: net/ssh -> popen3 no such method on trueclass / anybody has an idea what I might have done wrong?
[08:10:01] MarcWeber: http://dpaste.com/0FFQT4K
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[08:17:44] Cork: MarcWeber: sounds like session.process == true
[08:18:32] balo: http://net-ssh.github.io/net-ssh/Net/SSH/Connection/Session.html#method-i-process
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[08:18:50] balo: i don't think you are using process correctly
[08:19:52] Cork: interestingly enough :) i have a net/ssh question too, anyone know why i would get "incompatible character encodings: ASCII-8BIT and UTF-8" from ssh.exec! ?
[08:20:24] Cork: for some reason it wants to convert my utf8 string to ascii-8bit, but the server uses utf8 for character encoding
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[08:36:14] dminuoso: 5 months left...
[08:36:28] dminuoso: For yet-another-not-yet-ruby-3x3 version.
[08:36:39] dminuoso: Exciting times.
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[08:37:38] dminuoso: Cork: That's the semi-official project name, since the goal is to make Ruby 3 be 3 times faster.
[08:37:53] Cork: ah, interesting
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[08:45:17] Kanibal: 300% improvement by using JIT? 🤔
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[08:50:51] dminuoso: Kanibal: Amongst other things, yes.
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[08:53:02] dminuoso: Kanibal: There are different concepts being looked at such as RuJIT and GraalVM that give some rather impressive JIT capabilities.
[08:54:01] dminuoso: Another important thing is AOT compilation which Ruby already supports, but in a very unergonomic fashion. Right now when you start a complex Rails app, expect Ruby to spend a fair 10-20s just parsing and compiling Ruby code.
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[09:05:38] mzelin: url.include?(".cab") ? puts "ok" : puts "no" >> why do I get: syntax error, unexpected ':', expecting keyword_end
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[14:25:21] morfin: anybody had problems with building Ruby 2.3.0 with GCC 7.1?
[14:25:30] morfin: i get malloc memory corruption => crash
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[14:25:45] havenwood: morfin: same with 2.3.4?
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[15:29:34] morfin: havenwood, yes
[15:29:38] morfin: all 2.3.x
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[16:27:43] cagomez_: is it possible to .group_by {} and also set a default value for the hash that is created?
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[16:31:02] morfin: i guess it could be an error which somehow worked before
[16:31:15] morfin: even if it was an UB
[16:31:51] morfin: but now causing memory corruption
[16:34:04] havenwood: cagomez_: You can add a default proc to the Hash after it's created.
[16:34:38] havenwood: &ri Hash#default_proc=
[16:34:39] `derpy: http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.4.1/Hash.html#method-i-default_proc-3D
[16:36:58] morfin: i think i gonna debug that
[16:37:05] morfin: because it's obvious defect
[16:37:48] havenwood: morfin: yeah, might be worth reporting - i've seen a few GCC 7.1 bugs on the tracker
[16:38:00] havenwood: https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/projects/ruby-trunk/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&scope=&issues=1&q=GCC+7
[16:38:11] morfin: that started after update
[16:38:20] morfin: hmm not sure 2.4.0 work or not
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[16:38:40] morfin: will try but i use rbenv for different versions because there is different projects
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[16:40:06] morfin: i am on Arch )
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[17:01:07] cagomez: if I create a Ruby hash with keys [obj, someString], is this safe? or are obj and someString mutable?
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[17:01:49] cagomez: once I assign obj and someString as keys, I won't be mutating the objects. so if I use them as keys, they'll hash to the same index, right?
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[17:09:25] ModusPwnens: I'm trying to do an is_a? method call on a class to check it's type (I know this isn't the ruby way). The class I'm checking is defined in another module and I'm having trouble resolving uninitialized constant errors. Is there something I have to do to bring that class in so that I can use its class name?
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[17:13:12] darix: ModusPwnens: maybe use the "absolute path to the other class" ... like is_a?(ModuleName::ClassName)
[17:13:16] darix: if that doesnt help
[17:13:31] darix: is_a?(::ModuleName::ClassName)
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[17:20:31] havenwood: cagomez: If you mutate a Hash key it most likely won't be #eql? anymore. Don't mutate Hash keys.
[17:20:42] havenwood: cagomez: You *can*. Just don't.
[17:20:46] cagomez: if I group by multiple using `@bunch.group_by{|e| [e.commentable_id, e.commentable_type]}`, how do I read from the hash?
[17:20:59] cagomez: I get `TypeError: no implicit conversion of Array into Integer`
[17:21:19] cagomez: if I do myHash[[obj1, obj2]]
[17:21:29] havenwood: cagomez: Look at the receiver that you're calling the method on.
[17:21:30] havenwood: It's not a Hash, it's an Array.
[17:21:47] havenwood: myHash.class #=> Array
[17:22:14] havenwood: cagomez: Us snake_case for variables and methods, never headlessCamelCase in Ruby.
[17:22:51] havenwood: A camel without a head? Oh my!
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[17:24:25] Curting: Hello! I need help. I have an array of numbers and I want to only puts the even ones. I try to do it with as little code as possible. Why is this not possible (?):
[17:24:33] Curting: my_array.each { |n| if n.even? then puts n }
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[17:25:32] havenwood: Curting: Your `then` syntax isn't quite right.
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[17:25:36] havenwood: Curting: Try: puts n if n.even?
[17:26:23] cjohnson: For a more realistic approach you might use my_array.select to first filter out the evens, then print the resulting array
[17:26:25] havenwood: Or: n.even? and puts n
[17:27:32] havenwood: &ri Array#select
[17:27:32] `derpy: http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.4.1/Array.html#method-i-select
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[17:28:23] Curting: Thank you very much - both of you. I'm curious: why is #select more "realistic"? Is it faster?
[17:28:41] cagomez: I have Foo objects. Each Foo has an array of Bars. I need to .group_by on Bars and return a Hash that I can index into using myHash[Foo.name, Bar.id]
[17:29:38] havenwood: Curting: It makes it quite clear to read: puts numbers.select &:even?
[17:29:46] cagomez: I have ` foo.map { |f| f.bars.group_by { |b| [f.name, b.id] } }` but I get an array with the hash i want inside
[17:30:06] Curting: havenwood++
[17:30:08] havenwood: cagomez: That's what #map returns.
[17:30:13] havenwood: I've been incremented! \o/
[17:30:44] Curting: Wow. You actually look taller now!
[17:30:50] elomatreb: No, this is Ruby, you now have a syntax error on probably the next end
[17:30:50] havenwood: ACTION grins
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[17:31:50] havenwood: ruby[bot] doesn't do karma at least, a lurker bot might
[17:32:31] Curting: Ok. As long as you know I appreciate your help. I haven't usen the & in the syntax you mention above. Do you have any reference to easy documentation on that?
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[17:34:01] havenwood: Curting: The `&` there is syntactic sugar. It does two things 1) uses the argument as a block rather than parameter, 2) calls #to_proc on the argument.
[17:34:34] havenwood: Curting: Are you familiar with procs or lambdas?
[17:34:40] elomatreb: &:method is usually equivalent to a block like `{|x| x.method }`
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[17:35:28] havenwood: Curting: Like elomatreb says, `select(&:even?)` in long form would be `select { |n| n.even? }`.
[17:35:30] havenwood: >> :even?.class
[17:35:31] ruby[bot]: havenwood: # => Symbol (https://eval.in/833588)
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[17:35:58] havenwood: Curting: `:even?` is a Symbol. The `&` calls Symbol#to_proc then passes that resulting proc as the block.
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[17:36:23] Curting: havenwood: Cool! I haven't read about &: yet. Seems efficient. Lambdas is pythons equivalent to JS's anon. functions, right?
[17:36:53] havenwood: Curting: Yup, along those lines.
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[17:38:36] Curting: havenwood: Why do a method like #even, which is normally called by a punctuation mark (.) get called by colon : after the &-sign? Then it looks like a symbol to me?
[17:38:42] havenwood: Curting: The `:` part actually goes with the Symbol, but Symbols are a common use of the `&` for passing blocks.
[17:38:55] havenwood: Curting: :even?.class #=> Symbol
[17:39:02] havenwood: >> :even?.to_proc
[17:39:04] ruby[bot]: havenwood: # => #<Proc:0x40d49c6c(&:even?)> (https://eval.in/833589)
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[17:39:28] havenwood: >> :even?.to_proc.call 42
[17:39:29] ruby[bot]: havenwood: # => true (https://eval.in/833590)
[17:39:31] Curting: havenwood: You're fast! Thanks a bunch. I'll read about it :-)
[17:39:57] havenwood: Curting: No prob. Happy coding!
[17:40:11] Curting: havenwood: It's my first time using this IRC-channel. Very pleasant experience. Thank you too, elomatreb!
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[17:43:09] naitian: Hey guys, I was wondering if you could help me understand rvm a little bit...
[17:43:53] naitian: So I'm used to python's virtualenv, and rvm looks kind of similar to that, from what I've read.
[17:44:09] nofxx: naitian, why do you need multiple versions of ruby?
[17:45:08] naitian: well, I'm working on a project that's kind of like c9.io, if you've heard of that...
[17:45:41] havenwood: naitian: RVM does lots of things. It installs Rubies, switches Rubies, etc. It's particularly handy if you need old Rubies that require patches to install (try to use stable, supported Rubies instead).
[17:45:53] naitian: and I want to give users the freedom to use different versions of ruby and keep things organized
[17:46:12] naitian: I was looking at the multi-user option for installing rvm
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[17:46:35] havenwood: naitian: I'd recommend the simpler, single user install unless you really need multiple users.
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[17:46:55] havenwood: naitian: Another option is to use ruby-install to install Rubies, use chruby to switch between them, and use bundler to run apps with specific versions of specific gems in your Gemfile.lock.
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[17:47:05] havenwood: naitian: That's a simple, popular option.
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[17:47:38] naitian: Okay, so every user would just have their own single user install?
[17:47:42] havenwood: naitian: If you use `sudo` with ruby-install it'll install to a system location suitable for multiple users.
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[17:47:57] havenwood: naitian: Or yeah, it's totally fine to have multiple Rubies. They're not that big.
[17:48:10] havenwood: naitian: A separate Ruby per user can be fine.
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[17:49:31] naitian: So if it's a system-wide Ruby, when I do gem install, would that install system-wide?
[17:49:46] splitshot: rbenv is quite....good... as well...
[17:50:04] havenwood: rbenv is nice if you use an odd shell - shims don't care
[17:50:25] havenwood: mksh or whatever, shim works
[17:51:04] havenwood: naitian: It's your choice. By default it would. But you can set --user-install so gems install locally.
[17:51:32] havenwood: naitian: In your .gemrc file you can put: gem: --user-install
[17:51:49] havenwood: naitian: Same with package manager Rubies.
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[17:51:56] havenwood: naitian: What OS/distro?
[17:53:46] havenwood: naitian: Brightbox maintains up-to-date Ruby packages for Ubuntu: https://www.brightbox.com/docs/ruby/ubuntu/
[17:53:46] naitian: Ok, so correct me if I'm wrong. A user's workflow would look something like this:
[17:54:17] naitian: 1. configure ruby gems to install locally
[17:54:32] naitian: 2. navigate to their project
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[17:54:46] naitian: 3. install whatever they have to install, and it would install to their user directory?
[17:54:57] havenwood: Gem deps are declared in a Ruby file called Gemfile and installed with `bundle`.
[17:55:11] havenwood: That creates a Gemfile.lock that contains the project's exact gems and versions.
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[17:55:25] naitian: But those would be installed to the user, and not the project directory?
[17:55:29] havenwood: Gems install globally, but only the exact versions for the project are used.
[17:55:45] naitian: Oh ok, see that part has been tripping me up.
[17:55:53] elomatreb: You can tell it to install locally, but there's no reason to
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[17:56:01] havenwood: You *can* install wherever you like, including vendoring to the project dir. But the standard practice is to install globally then limit to exactly the deps when runnign the app.
[17:56:26] havenwood: naitian: RVM automatically prefixes `bundle exec` when it detects a Gemfile.lock or Bundler recommends you type it explicitly.
[17:56:36] havenwood: For example: bundle exec rails
[17:57:03] havenwood: naitian: But yeah, a Gemfile creating Gemfile.lock that's used to pick exact deps is the standard practice.
[17:57:13] elomatreb: ACTION mumbles something about rails binstubs and spring
[17:57:28] havenwood: Similar to Rust's package manager or how Yarn does it.
[17:57:46] naitian: So instead of installing gems locally, I should install globally, and then restrict which are available based on the project, right?
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[17:57:56] Curting: havenwood: I don't seem to be able to use the &: syntax on this case: "L".upto("P") { |char| puts char } . Do you have time?
[17:58:06] elomatreb: That's what happens, but bundler does all of that for you
[17:58:35] havenwood: Curting: It doesn't work in that case. It only works when you're calling a method on the block argument. Not when you're passing the block argument as a parameter.
[17:58:48] havenwood: Curting: You *can* make it work but the simpler version is better.
[17:58:59] elomatreb: Curting: If you really want you can do ` "L".upto("P") &method(:puts)`
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[17:59:23] Curting: havenwood: Alright. Makes sense now. Thank you once again :-)
[17:59:28] havenwood: Curting: Try: "L".upto("P").each &method(:puts)
[17:59:36] elomatreb: Oh, uh, yeah
[18:00:05] Curting: elomatreb: Thanks :)
[18:00:09] naitian: Would there be any security concerns with installing everything globally / allowing users to install packages globally?
[18:00:17] havenwood: naitian: Yes.
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[18:00:36] naitian: So it would be wise to restrict to local installs, right?
[18:00:41] havenwood: naitian: Yes.
[18:01:13] naitian: But that also means when two users want to work on the same project, they would both have to install the dependencies separately?
[18:01:41] havenwood: naitian: Yes, but it'd be the exact same versions of the exact same deps, because the Gemfile.lock is commited and shared.
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[18:02:10] naitian: Okay, that makes sense to me now.
[18:02:19] naitian: Thank you :)
[18:02:32] havenwood: You're welcome!
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[19:33:52] morfin: this is actually funny how miniruby crashes
[19:34:05] morfin: as i know it use Ruby sources(some of them)
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[20:06:06] SK_: Can someone help me with a github project? -> https://github.com/jmopr/job-hunter
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[20:08:41] SK_: Bundle install was successful. I tried running the command you suggested after bundle install and here is the output. https://paste.ubuntu.com/25036134/
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[20:35:01] benlieb: Locally, when I run Delayed::Job.enqueue TestJob.new, it is automatically deleted by delayed job, and not executed (DELETE FROM "delayed_jobs" ...)
[20:35:05] benlieb: But when I run this type of job via #delay DelayableTasks.new.delay.tmp and AFTERWARDS run Delayed::Job.enqueue TestJob.new, it runs fine.
[20:35:09] benlieb: What am I missing? I don't wantt o run DelayableTasks.new.delay.tmp
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[20:41:10] SK_: Thank you benlieb. I am not sure what else is missing. Have you tested it on job sites?
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[20:42:04] benlieb: I figured it out...
[20:42:32] benlieb: there was a dependency needed in the job that was failing autoload in dev
[20:42:43] SK_: What is the dependency?
[20:42:45] benlieb: that dependency is loaded in the first job...
[20:43:04] benlieb: it's all my fault, as usual, hahaha
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[20:43:59] SK_: Can you guide me through the steps you took? I am confused still. Can you paste -> https://paste.ubuntu.com/
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[21:40:49] Francy: https://github.com/carter/ham-irc-bot/blob/master/irc_bot.rb where are this requirement of ruby module ? CAN someone HELP me ?
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[21:41:22] havenwood: Francy: I don't understand your question. What are you asking?
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[21:41:44] Francy: look at the code require 'n0nbh' ??
[21:41:59] havenwood: Francy: What about it?
[21:42:02] Francy: require 'qrz-callbook' ? where are this ?
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[21:42:23] havenwood: &ri Kernel#require
[21:42:24] `derpy: http://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.4.1/libdoc/rubygems/rdoc/Kernel.html#method-i-require
[21:42:24] Francy: they exist?
[21:42:43] SegFaultAX: More importantly https://github.com/carter/ham-irc-bot/blob/master/Gemfile
[21:42:48] Francy: do you have idea how to install it ?
[21:43:49] havenwood: Francy: bundle
[21:43:49] SegFaultAX: Clone the repo, "bundle install". Just like every other Ruby project :)
[21:44:00] havenwood: Francy: gem install bundler && bundle
[21:44:13] Francy: I show you error...
[21:44:27] SegFaultAX: Don't paste it in here unless it's one line. Use a gist or something.
[21:44:27] havenwood: Francy: Did you type `gem install bundler` and then `bundle`?
[21:45:01] Francy: I try again...<3 thanks
[21:46:22] Francy: Gem::FilePermissionError)
[21:46:23] Francy: You don't have write permissions for the /var/lib/gems/2.3.0 directory
[21:46:32] Francy: need sudo anyway ?
[21:46:33] havenwood: Francy: Prefix your command with `sudo`.
[21:47:00] Francy: Bundle complete!
[21:47:47] Francy: https://pastebin.com/Az4ZuTEQ
[21:47:47] ruby[bot]: Francy: as I told you already, please use https://gist.github.com
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[21:49:25] Francy: THIS is what I get after "gem install bundler && bundle" https://pastebin.com/XejFW70V
[21:49:26] ruby[bot]: Francy: as I told you already, please use https://gist.github.com
[21:50:27] Francy: please help me seems that Could not find 'ruby-ham' (>= 0) among 127 total gem(s)
[21:50:35] havenwood: Francy: Prefix your `ruby irc_bot.rb` command with `bundle exec` to run in the context of your bundled gems.
[21:50:56] Francy: bundle exec ruby irc_bot.rb like this ?
[21:51:26] havenwood: Francy: Yeah, what's the result?
[21:51:35] Francy: IT seems work
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[21:57:09] Francy: <3 havenwood
[21:57:20] Francy: mmmm can you explain me little bit ^?
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[22:06:02] havenwood: Francy: The Gemfile is written in Ruby and describes your deps.
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[22:06:48] havenwood: Francy: When you run `bundle` the dependencies are resolved and those gems are installed and a Gemfile.lock is created or updated with the those exact versions.
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[22:07:07] havenwood: Francy: When you prefix a command with `bundle exec` it'll use the exact gems in the Gemfile.lock.
[22:07:44] havenwood: Francy: https://bundler.io/gemfile.html
[22:08:29] Francy: I can run this command on boot ?
[22:08:47] Francy: sorry stupid question :s
[22:08:55] Francy: thanks so much for your help
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[22:29:43] quuxman: I'm having trouble with FactoryGirl failing on creating an object because it's magically adding an 'id' column. Everything works with sqlite DB, but with the DB we're actually using it blows up with this error
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[23:32:54] al2o3-cr: morning peeps
[23:35:45] al2o3-cr: just had the saltiest salt and pepper king prawns ever and still eat the fuckers
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[23:54:44] Radar: fascinating
[23:54:46] Radar: please, tell me more
[23:55:50] zenspider: amazing story
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[23:56:44] zenspider: I just released hoe, sexp_processor, ruby_parser, ruby2ruby, & flay... a release storm
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[23:57:59] al2o3-cr: zenspider: stop releasing shit
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[23:59:05] al2o3-cr: zenspider: jk
[23:59:32] zenspider: !qkick al2o3-cr stop being an ass
[23:59:33] ruby[bot]: ruby[bot] kicked al2o3-cr: being an ass