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[01:14:59] quuxman: Does anyone have a reasonable implementation of ctags for Ruby? Simple class definitions like "module Foo \n class Bar" don't create a "Foo::Bar" tag with universal-ctags and even ruby gem ripper-tags
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[01:19:09] radial: can someone help me understand this code? https://paste.pound-python.org/show/2bLXk7xMXZpmE9mIrzjc/
[01:19:23] radial: it comes from the 7'44" mark in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DqzaqeeMgY where the author describes it as: "A global variable that's an array that contains a list of directories, and then you would loop over the list of directories, seeing if the file being required is present in any of those directories"
[01:19:48] radial: but i don't see a loop over the parts of $LOAD_PATH, since he uses $LOAD_PATH.first
[01:19:56] radial: but i'm probably missing something, as i'm new to ruby
[01:20:18] law: can I do iterators in a heredoc?
[01:20:56] quuxman: seems ruby syntax is just too complex for reasonable implementation with ctags
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[01:24:44] law: https://paste.ee/p/ACaPX
[01:24:54] law: I can't figure out what is making it spew like that
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[05:18:31] Jakaria: hi, I have a small gem development going on in GitHub... anyone is welcome for contributing :)
[05:18:36] Jakaria: this is the repo - https://github.com/JakariaBlaine/str_sanitizer
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[05:22:41] havenwood: Jakaria: Grats on the gem!
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[05:52:57] dminuoso: radial: The loop is implicit in Enumerable#first
[05:53:21] radial: where can i read about how that works?
[05:53:32] dminuoso: radial: #first meanWhich uh...
[05:53:59] dminuoso: radial: Well, I woke up about 30 minutes ago so I get this one for free.
[05:54:08] dminuoso: radial: That's a bug in the code.
[05:54:38] dminuoso: radial: The author probably meant to use Enumerable#find, since first does not take a predicate.
[05:54:40] radial: ok, yeah, i figured it was a bug
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[06:01:45] radial: i'm trying to initialize some instance variables in cucumber world file, and then use those instance variables from a step
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[06:02:15] radial: my issue, more or less, and a proposed solution is described here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11446373/cucumber-instance-variable-defined-in-support-file-not-being-passed-to-step-def
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[06:03:00] radial: the problem is when i try it out, it doesn't work
[06:03:22] radial: in my support/env.rb i have: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/ktBSetLjBLAwM4ZrJIZB/
[06:04:40] radial: and then in my steps i have: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/SfmUuQ351tXwYiGcFGDr/
[06:04:49] radial: and that just prints out: foo = ''
[06:04:54] radial: what am i doing wrong?
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[08:04:21] Bish: how can i make nokogiri not choke on this shit
[08:04:24] Bish: xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"
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[08:17:35] dminuoso: Bish: Do you have an XML snippet as testcase?
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[08:20:28] Bish: hm it's userdata so i can't try to reproduce it, but it works just fine with the example i put together
[08:20:31] Bish: trying again
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[08:23:17] Bish: can't seem toreproduce it
[08:23:22] Bish: /var/lib/gems/2.4.0/gems/nokogiri-1.8.0/lib/nokogiri/xml/searchable.rb:198:in `evaluate': ERROR: Undefined namespace prefix: /html/@xmlns:v (Nokogiri::XML::XPath::SyntaxError)
[08:23:25] Bish: this is the error though
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[08:23:52] Bish: ill keep trying
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[08:28:08] Bish: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12469815/undefined-namespace-prefix-in-nokogiri-and-xpath guess this is the error im facing?
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[08:29:49] Bish: seems like .xpath can go wrong if that microsoft stuff is present?
[08:30:32] Bish: but why does it care, i have no clue what a namespace is in that context ;;
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[08:39:04] dminuoso: Bish: Yeah well. Without seeing what XML you are dealing with, this conversation is pointless.
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[08:39:49] dminuoso: Bish: But yes, if XML has namespaces, you have to specify them in XPath. If you don't want that hassle, use CSS selectors instead.
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[08:40:13] dminuoso: In most cases they suffice (also they are much shorter and easier to write)
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[08:43:45] Terens: Does it makes sense to consume rabbitmq queue from rails ?
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[08:44:01] Terens: Also if i create a ruby microservice to consume a queue how tek heck can I scale it ?
[08:44:04] Bish: dminuoso: well it's a big html document where these namespaces are added, but never used
[08:44:09] Bish: maybe that is the problem?
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[08:45:20] Bish: dminuoso: thing is i am using xpath to walk over user data, with xpath, that always worked well
[08:45:33] Bish: until some user decided to use some microsoft product for generation of the html
[08:46:29] Bish: i am only searching for links and text nodes, can i modify the xpath so he doesnt car emuch about them?
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[08:49:52] dminuoso: Bish: Make a testcase out of it...
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[09:12:40] Bish: dminuoso: ;; but it doesnt break
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[09:14:42] Bish: i will go with remove_namespaces, and let future bish feel the pain
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[09:21:15] dminuoso: Bish: Use css selectors.. sigh.
[09:21:22] dminuoso: Or learn XPath.
[09:22:15] Bish: how would learn xpath help me in that case?
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[09:22:30] Bish: can i tell it to only search things without namespaces?
[09:26:03] dminuoso: Bish: Nothing is broken. When your XML document has namespaces, you have to use those namespaces in XPath too.
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[09:27:00] amosbird: hi, what is continuation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation
[09:27:09] amosbird: I feel quite hard to understand it
[09:27:25] amosbird: is there an simple example in ruby to explain the concept?
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[09:28:17] dminuoso: amosbird: The exact execution state.
[09:28:31] amosbird: that's vague to me...
[09:28:33] dminuoso: amosbird: It's the exact picture you get from a debugger when you set a breakpoint.
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[09:28:56] amosbird: so why do we need to suppoort it?
[09:29:43] dminuoso: amosbird: You can use them to do a non-local jump.
[09:30:09] amosbird: so it's like generator in python?
[09:30:34] amosbird: what does non-local jump mean?
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[09:30:42] dminuoso: amosbird: It's almost, but not quote, entirely unlike generators.
[09:31:42] amosbird: so it's not like function call
[09:31:55] amosbird: it replaces current callstack with the continuation?
[09:32:20] dminuoso: amosbird: the callstack is part of the continuation
[09:32:49] dminuoso: amosbird: a continuation is basically very similar to what setjmp does
[09:32:56] amosbird: ok.. is there any layman tutorial for this?
[09:33:38] dminuoso: amosbird: and calling the continuation is the equivalent of longjmp to it
[09:33:54] amosbird: does longjmp unroll the stack?
[09:34:22] dminuoso: amosbird: it replaces it.
[09:34:28] dminuoso: amosbird: it's the underlying mechanism for exceptions for example
[09:34:34] dminuoso: amosbird: or catch/throw
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[09:34:46] dminuoso: and continuations are right in the same alley
[09:34:47] amosbird: so this is continuation
[09:35:00] amosbird: to continue from setjmp
[09:35:20] amosbird: and replace the callstack by pre stored ones
[09:35:20] dminuoso: amosbird: a continuation is equivalent to the environment that setjmp produces.
[09:35:25] dminuoso: more than just the callstack
[09:35:29] dminuoso: the entire execution environment
[09:35:33] dminuoso: the entire context
[09:35:42] amosbird: what does that context contain?
[09:35:54] amosbird: callstack, instruction pointer
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[09:37:40] dminuoso: amosbird: I think on a conceptual level those two are enough yeah
[09:37:51] kke_: anyone seen a list of ruby versions in different os distributions?
[09:38:26] amosbird: dminuoso: then the callstack is enough right? since longjmp restore the ip
[09:39:00] dminuoso: amosbird: no, because the callstack just tells you about the stack frames
[09:39:19] dminuoso: amosbird: a continuation captures the exact position within that stack frame too
[09:39:21] amosbird: what else do I need?
[09:39:36] amosbird: you mean the sp register?
[09:39:58] matthewd: I think it's worth opening with "Don't use continuations. People don't use continuations."
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[09:41:21] Bish: dminuoso: and what if i only want to use the "main"-namespace?
[09:42:11] dminuoso: amosbird: Are we talking about Ruby details?
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[09:42:52] amosbird: well, i'm trying to understand continuation
[09:42:56] dminuoso: amosbird: https://github.com/ruby/ruby/blob/trunk/cont.c#L83-L107
[09:43:07] dminuoso: amosbird: That is basically a continuation object.
[09:44:30] amosbird: so rb_jmpbuf_t is all we need
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[09:45:08] dminuoso: need what for?
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[09:45:51] amosbird: to restore the suspension
[09:46:25] dminuoso: amosbird: No.
[09:46:44] dminuoso: amosbird: Ruby operates on an abstract stack machine, and the entire state of that stack machine has to be captured.
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[09:47:50] dminuoso: amosbird: I mean just as a random example, "self" is part of that context
[09:48:10] amosbird: "the entire state of that stack machine" . is that equal to all registers?
[09:48:19] dminuoso: amosbird: Ruby does not have registers
[09:48:29] matthewd: amosbird: Do you have an objective you're trying to decide whether callcc fits, or just wanting to learn out of interest?
[09:48:55] amosbird: matthewd: the latter
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[09:51:19] dminuoso: amosbird: I recommend you check out Ruby under a Microscope. It doesn't go too much into those specific details, but it gives an accurate picture of lots of Ruby internals.
[09:51:25] dminuoso: including the Ruby VM
[09:51:36] dminuoso: Well. YARV. :-)
[09:51:36] amosbird: ok, thanks!
[09:53:00] dminuoso: matthewd: Though I'm surprised that continuations are not used that widely.
[09:53:08] dminuoso: Especially in algorithms or parsers I could see their use.
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[09:56:07] dminuoso: amosbird: Actually the more I think, python generators could be pretty helpful to understand what they are about. In python `yield` basically captures the execution context, and `next` resumes right at that previously stored context.
[09:56:36] dminuoso: Though the better abstract term is `coroutines` rather than `generators`
[09:56:40] matthewd: dminuoso: I think they're fairly incompatible with block-based resource management -- as soon as blocks can be entered/exited an unequal number of times, things get unpleasant
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[11:15:45] nho: I'm building ruby 2.4.1 from source. configure script hangs on "checking for broken backtrace..."
[11:15:51] nho: Any ideas what may cause that?
[11:15:58] nho: Gentoo, BTW.
[11:16:04] dminuoso: There you go.
[11:16:37] dminuoso: nho: What is it trying to configure?
[11:16:48] dminuoso: nho: Also just gist the entire output until it hangs
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[11:17:37] nho: No need, I backer ruby version to one without gentoo-specific patches and it got past that hurdle.
[11:18:03] nho: But thank you
[11:18:14] dminuoso: My initial instinct was right after all. :P
[11:19:22] nho: I just find this quite weird
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[11:22:17] nho: have a good day!
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[12:26:54] Sylario: I am trying to undestand a line of ruby :
[12:26:56] Sylario: ignore %r{^ignored/path/}, /public/
[12:27:34] Sylario: first, is it two argumets, or one, I am not sure to really understand the regex
[12:28:40] dminuoso: sylario: %r{} is just a different way of writing // (except you don't have to escape slashes)
[12:28:53] Papierkorb: sylario: That line calls a method called `ignore` with two arguments. Both are regular expressions. The first one matches `ignored/path/` only at the start of whatever it is matched against, and the second regular expression matches the string `public` anywhere
[12:29:23] Sylario: ok thank you both
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[14:21:05] jtperreault: ^ mistype, sorry.
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[14:40:09] gizmore|2: what is an easy proof for unlimited prime numbers?
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[14:47:04] chef3000: I need to take part of a hostname and make it a variable. I need the 4th character to the 5th from last for example abcSTRING12345 is the hostname and I just want to get STRING out. Not sure if .split or regex is the best approach.
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[15:03:20] Papierkorb: Chef3000: So the format is, lower case characters (you don't care about), then upper case characters (which you do care about), and then some decimals?
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[15:05:17] chef3000: no that was just to make it clear it is the value in the middle
[15:05:31] chef3000: it will be lower case letters for the first 3
[15:05:44] chef3000: and a mix of letters and numbers for the last 5
[15:06:01] matthewd: >> "abcSTRING12345"[3..-6]
[15:06:02] ruby[bot]: matthewd: # => "STRING" (https://eval.in/843989)
[15:06:36] matthewd: (though the numbers worry me a bit.. I'd try for a regex that matched the actual character contents somehow)
[15:07:00] chef3000: the last 2-3 are for the server number
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[15:07:36] chef3000: I will try to make that work as a starting point. thank you.
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[18:27:48] radial: i'm trying to initialize some instance variables in cucumber world file, and then use those instance variables from a step
[18:28:02] radial: my issue, more or less, and a proposed solution is described here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11446373/cucumber-instance-variable-defined-in-support-file-not-being-passed-to-step-def
[18:28:10] radial: the problem is when i try it out, it doesn't work
[18:28:18] radial: in my support/env.rb i have: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/ktBSetLjBLAwM4ZrJIZB/
[18:28:24] radial: and then in my steps i have: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/SfmUuQ351tXwYiGcFGDr/
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[18:28:43] radial: and when i run cucumber, that just prints out: foo = ''
[18:28:45] xelkarin: Is there a way to get a plain Rakefile to pull in required gem dependencies when building a gem?
[18:28:48] radial: what am i doing wrong?
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[18:36:46] nofxxx: xelkarin, run bundle in it
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[21:21:16] Mrgoose2: If i have the following names ["wan","ip","auth"] . How can i run parse_ip(results.{insert name from array here}.ip)
[21:21:18] Mrgoose2: is that possible?
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[21:22:41] havenwood: Mrgoose2: %w[wan ip auth].each { |word| parse_ip(results.public_send word).ip }
[21:24:04] Mrgoose2: what does %w do?
[21:24:18] havenwood: >> %w[mr goose 2]
[21:24:24] ruby[bot]: havenwood: I'm terribly sorry, I could not evaluate your code because of an error: NoMethodError:undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass
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[21:24:43] havenwood: Mrgoose2: The bot is down, but give it a try in irb or pry!
[21:25:01] havenwood: you're welcome
[21:25:18] havenwood: Mrgoose2: https://www.zenspider.com/ruby/quickref.html#arrays
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[21:30:28] Mrgoose2: ah, maybe slight confusion. results is an object. results.{wan}.interface_address.ip . I wanted to dynamically replace the part inside the { }
[21:30:34] Mrgoose2: if that makes sense
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[21:35:13] havenwood: Mrgoose2: Do you mean?: results.wan.interface_address.ip
[21:36:01] havenwood: Mrgoose2: Just add the #interface_address to the code I showed you above. You didn't mention that previously.
[21:36:56] SeepingN: >> %w(words in parens not brackets)
[21:37:01] ruby[bot]: SeepingN: I'm terribly sorry, I could not evaluate your code because of an error: NoMethodError:undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass
[21:37:21] SeepingN: >> puts %w(words in parens not brackets)
[21:37:24] havenwood: Mrgoose2: `results.public_send word` is the part where #word is called on `results`
[21:37:26] ruby[bot]: SeepingN: I'm terribly sorry, I could not evaluate your code because of an error: NoMethodError:undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass
[21:37:32] havenwood: SeepingN: Bot eval is down.
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[22:43:17] Mrgoose2: havenwood: still around? one more question
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[22:44:16] havenwood: Mrgoose2: yup
[22:44:36] havenwood: Mrgoose2: At this time of day there're lots of folk to answer.
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[23:04:37] havenwood: Mrgoose2: What was the question?
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