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[04:43:46] baweaver: Couple of fun recent posts:
[04:43:47] baweaver: https://medium.com/@baweaver/triple-equals-black-magic-d934936a6379
[04:44:01] baweaver: https://medium.com/@baweaver/reducing-enumerable-the-basics-fa042ce6806
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[06:00:04] dminuoso: ACTION pokes baweaver
[06:00:12] baweaver: ACTION wanders in
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[06:02:14] baweaver: dminuoso: what's up?
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[06:26:19] baweaver: dminuoso: can't leave me hanging like that
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[06:32:22] dminuoso: baweaver: Watch me!
[06:32:23] dminuoso: baweaver: You know what would be freakingly awesome?
[06:32:25] dminuoso: Elixir with a HM type system.
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[07:51:20] baweaver: Also this - https://medium.com/@baweaver/abusing-hash-constructors-65d59c0a5b27
[07:51:31] baweaver: because Hash constructors are fun and you can do very bad things with them
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[10:05:55] matthewd: Dickinson: See link in the topic
[10:06:16] Dickinson: matthewd: I already did :)
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[11:50:45] twosevenzero: Is there a preferred way to scan for deprecated code
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[13:35:10] skotchpine: How will ruby 3 be faster?
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[13:37:32] skotchpine: How much faster will ruby 3 be?
[13:37:42] bougyman: { } that much faster
[13:38:43] elomatreb: >> "#{(0..100).to_a.sample}% faster"
[13:38:44] ruby[bot]: elomatreb: # => "74% faster" (https://eval.in/880905)
[13:38:48] matthewd: skotchpine: The claimed intention is that it will be "3x" faster [than 2.0], by mechanisms to be determined, under a specific benchmark
[13:38:49] elomatreb: That's pretty good
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[13:43:23] dminuoso: RuntimeError: You want to finish 4 frames, but stack size is only 1
[13:43:36] skotchpine: matthewd: wow. I've heard of this specific benchmark. Does it ship with the source?
[13:43:40] dminuoso: Feeling so skillful to always bug out pry.
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[13:43:50] skotchpine: matthewd: can run, I mean?
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[13:44:26] matthewd: skotchpine: https://github.com/mame/optcarrot
[13:45:22] dminuoso: matthewd: mmm curious about jruby+truffle for that benchmarl.
[13:45:47] skotchpine: That is a fantastic goal
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[14:39:14] Guest41826: I'm writing a neovim plugin for ruby language
[14:39:31] Guest41826: before that, I'm going to write a whole parser n lua language
[14:40:38] Guest41826: the plugin is very speed-oriented, which is the reason I'm creating a parser from scratch
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[14:41:00] Guest41826: I just would like to know if there is someone interested to join my efforts
[14:42:08] Guest41826: currently, I'm excavating the interesting things parse.y has inside it
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[14:42:30] Guest41826: mostly creating a "parse roadmap"
[14:43:03] Guest41826: would be very glad if there are people on this channel to give me feedback on it
[14:43:24] Guest41826: thanks a lot in advance
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[14:51:43] Guest41826: anyway, I've collected what I've found as of now in https://github.com/icefapper/ruby-ast
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[16:00:41] bitemyapp: what's the recommended way for a mac user to install Ruby?
[16:00:43] bitemyapp: Homebrew -> (rvm | rbenv)?
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[16:01:25] matthewd: bitemyapp: (rbenv | chruby), but yeah.
[16:02:03] bitemyapp: matthewd: ty!
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[17:15:33] ule: anyone watching rubydevsummit?
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[17:22:15] ule: for those who don't know.. it's 100% online and to attend online its free
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[17:38:08] baweaver_away: So I wrote lots of stuff this weekend:
[17:38:09] baweaver_away: https://medium.com/@baweaver/reducing-enumerable-the-basics-fa042ce6806
[17:38:10] baweaver_away: https://medium.com/@baweaver/reducing-enumerable-no-op-and-boolean-b2ce4ef8bd79
[17:38:11] baweaver_away: https://medium.com/rubyinside/triple-equals-black-magic-d934936a6379
[17:38:12] baweaver_away: https://medium.com/@baweaver/abusing-hash-constructors-65d59c0a5b27
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[17:39:06] baweaver: bitemyapp: oi, are you betraying Haskell for Ruby now? :D
[17:40:13] elomatreb: baweaver: I really did enjoy the one about === and the one about Hash constructors, good work
[17:40:31] baweaver: The next ones over reducing enumerable get into the fun stuff
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[17:40:50] baweaver: Sorting type methods and ones that require a persistent state to be propagated
[17:41:07] baweaver: So quick sort and semi-monadic reduce :D
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[17:41:31] baweaver: === with Ramda and case is such glorious cheating <3
[17:41:51] bitemyapp: baweaver: I was asking a question on behalf of a friend.
[17:42:00] bitemyapp: baweaver: I still write Haskell for a living and little else.
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[17:42:08] baweaver: elomatreb: danke danke
[17:42:13] bitemyapp: I occasionally do some Rust on the weekends
[17:42:16] baweaver: bitemyapp: it's ok, we still accept you here :P
[17:42:28] baweaver: How's the book? (keystonelemur on Twitter btw)
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[17:43:13] bitemyapp: baweaver: yeah I recognized your name. Book's been done'ish but needing final editing/proofing for awhile now.
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[17:43:33] bitemyapp: been working on https://lorepub.com and trying to ramp up ecommerce side stuff so that we can sell a print version
[17:43:40] baweaver: Ah nice. Going to put it in paper some time? NoStarch and PragPub are nice
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[17:43:44] baweaver: ah, answers that then
[17:43:49] bitemyapp: once that's settled I'll go back to focusing on editing/finishing the book, but it's been pretty much content complete for awhile.
[17:44:15] bitemyapp: baweaver: we're self-published
[17:44:21] bitemyapp: we're not going to work with a publisher for the print versiomn
[17:44:33] bitemyapp: Lorepub is me starting a small publisher.
[17:45:02] baweaver: For those of you who don't know, bitemyapp is a huge Haskell buff and wrote a pretty amazing book: http://haskellbook.com/
[17:45:17] bitemyapp: co-wrote it with Julie, yeah.
[17:45:31] baweaver: was about to amend that but you type way faster than me XD
[17:45:44] bitemyapp: I was on it for a few months before she came on board, she didn't know how to program before she started working with me. Learned Haskell as her first language while writing the book with me.
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[17:47:28] baweaver: In any case, you're always welcome around #ruby :)
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[17:54:33] baweaver: elomatreb: Think of all the articles as a brain-dump a few years in the making. Still have a nice backlog I'd been meaning to finish off
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[17:55:17] elomatreb: I'm impressed enough with the ability to focus the thoughts into a coherent article already :)
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[18:30:53] DearVolt: Hello everyone. I'm trying to override a method of a single object. This object is stored in an array with other objects of the same class but when calling a method on each of the objects I want this one to behave differently. I have tried myObj.define_method, myObj.define_singleton_method and just a def myObj.overridenMethod but the behavior doesn't change.
[18:30:58] DearVolt: Any suggestions?
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[18:35:49] baweaver: DearVolt: what exactly are you trying to do? Why are you using singleton methods for it?
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[18:47:52] DearVolt: baweaver: I'm just trying to alter the behavior of a method. I have a hierarchy containing Employee -> TeamMember -> JuniorProgrammer. Employee has a payEmployee() method. I create a JuniorProgrammer instance called intern and wish to change the behaviour of the payEmployee() method.
[18:48:12] baweaver: Make an intern class
[18:48:33] baweaver: Chances are you end up with more than one, so just codify it from the start
[18:48:58] DearVolt: baweaver: This is my code: https://gist.github.com/DewaldDeJager/6af5cc1bd5946f9a1577a90365afca22
[18:49:27] DearVolt: The original method is defined on line 16 and my attempts at overriding it start at line 144.
[18:50:01] DearVolt: This is part of an assignment and I have to do it this way. I have left the code that I have tried in there so you can see I have tried. Just not sure why it's not overriding the method.
[18:50:08] baweaver: Nit: Don't mix tabs and spaces, use consistent indentation
[18:50:30] DearVolt: Yeah, sorry. Was switching between vim and Kate.
[18:50:32] baweaver: ?ts=2 is magic at the end of gists to "fix" it when reading though
[18:50:34] DearVolt: Will fix that.
[18:51:02] DearVolt: That's pretty cool, thanks for sharing!
[18:51:45] baweaver: All the parens aren't really needed at the end of methods
[18:52:03] baweaver: class.method() can just be class.method
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[18:52:40] nwm: is there a simple way to convert a string to a hash?
[18:52:43] DearVolt: Yeah, I mix the notation a little. I'll make it more consistent once I get this sorted out.
[18:52:44] nwm: no eval
[18:53:19] baweaver: TeamMember seems like an unneeded layer of indirection
[18:53:44] baweaver: nwm: Is it JSON?
[18:53:52] baweaver: DearVolt: def object.method should work, still reading a bit.
[18:54:27] DearVolt: baweaver: Just following the spec of the assignment. I also find it silly. I tried that way on line 144 but it doesn't work.
[18:54:33] baweaver: if not v -> if !v -> unless v
[18:54:51] baweaver: Have you put anything outside that if condition to check?
[18:54:52] DearVolt: And how would I access the instance variables in that case?
[18:56:06] baweaver: Should be able to do so as normal: @var
[18:56:32] nofxx: bitemyapp, just brew install it, nevermind rbenv
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[18:57:12] DearVolt: baweaver: Yes, I have. It works fine when I call the method right below where I override it (In the "main" area) but when I call the team.payTeam method it still uses the intern objects old implementation.
[18:57:16] DearVolt: It's really weird.
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[18:57:46] nofxx: bitemyapp, and gems you can install to system or add --user-install to your .gemrc, which will install under ~/.gem (you'll need to add bin to $PATH)
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[18:59:37] DearVolt: baweaver: So basically line 166 works as expected - The method is overriden. But line 144 which uses the method doesn't use the new behaviour.
[18:59:38] bitemyapp: I asked on behalf of someone else and an explicit ruby version manager was definitely needed for their work
[18:59:46] bitemyapp: but thank you
[19:00:03] baweaver: (jumping back and forth so may be slow to respond)
[19:00:21] DearVolt: No problem. Thank you so much for your help. I am stumped.
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[19:17:32] DearVolt: baweaver: Do you see what I mean with the payEmployee method not working as expected in the payTeam method?
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[19:23:00] DearVolt: baweaver: I figured it out. I'm being an idiot :| On line 162 I add junior to the team and not intern.
[19:23:06] DearVolt: Thanks so much for your help!
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[20:05:01] baweaver: How much interest would there be in a Ruby Ramda article?
[20:05:29] baweaver: @dminuoso - That means you could _technically_ use case like a cond statement because === hackery :D
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[21:32:36] eprojekt: https://ideone.com/36Y9ni
[21:32:49] eprojekt: The code gets timedout
[21:33:32] eprojekt: It's something to do with the value of limit but I'm not sure how to handle it.
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[22:36:58] georgecostanza: i'm very curious to see the improvement
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