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[00:25:34] Synthead: when I do a Set.new.tap and do a little loop to add things to it, the Set comes back empty
[00:25:51] Synthead: if I stick a binding.pry in the block, I can see that the Set is being populated, though
[00:25:54] Synthead: what's going on here?
[00:27:11] ruby[bot]: Please provide us with an example of valid input for your problem, the output that you're getting, and the output that you were expecting.
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[00:47:08] baweaver: Synthead: What does this return?: 1.tap { |v| v + 5 }
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[00:59:56] havenwood: Synthead: It seem you're expecting #tap to work like #yield_self is going to in Ruby 2.5
[01:00:11] havenwood: 1.yield_self { |v| v + 5 } #=> 6
[01:00:42] havenwood: Synthead: When you tap a phone line you don't change the conversation.
[01:00:56] havenwood: It's that kinda tap.
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[01:48:24] dminuoso: havenwood: You can.
[01:48:35] dminuoso: But without seeing code this is just guessing. :-)
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[08:44:41] elisaado: Hey, anyone know a good sound library? The main thing I want to do is write tones to a file
[08:46:26] elisaado: Oh I found wavfile
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[09:39:29] KrzaQ: What is the gem I should use for grammar parsing? I used to play with Citrus, but it seems to be abandoned, and returns a string instead of a match tree when I call its parse method
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[10:34:37] WhereIsMySpoon_: Is there some way to increase the font size used in a Curses window?
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[10:52:21] ar: so, i wanted to create a binding for eval which would pretend that every variable exists, and - unless set otherwise - has a default value of 0 (kind of like Hash.new(0), but that's a hash, not a binding)
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[10:54:37] ar: is there a way to do that? i tried creating my own class deriving from binding, but that didn't work. and neither did replacing the Binding#local_variable* methods with define_singlethon_method on the object i got
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[11:00:31] KrzaQ: sounds like aoc to me :>
[11:00:38] KrzaQ: why not use hash.fetch with a default?
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[11:05:00] ar: KrzaQ: eh, boring. i thought there was a way to do it like that
[11:05:13] KrzaQ: method_missing, maybe?
[11:05:18] KrzaQ: that's what I used
[11:05:42] ar: i just gsubbed the lines until they became proper ruby code
[11:05:57] ar: i'm just looking for options to do it in a nicer way
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[11:12:16] WhereIsMySpoon_: is there a way to shrink an array?
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[11:13:52] KrzaQ: not without losing elements
[11:14:01] WhereIsMySpoon_: KrzaQ: thats fine
[11:14:17] WhereIsMySpoon_: thats what i want, actually
[11:14:18] tobiasvl: slice! for example
[11:14:21] KrzaQ: arr[a...b]
[11:14:27] KrzaQ: a and b being indexes
[11:14:40] WhereIsMySpoon_: alrighty, thanks
[11:14:47] KrzaQ: >> [1,2,3][1..2]
[11:14:49] ruby[bot]: KrzaQ: # => [2, 3] (https://eval.in/915355)
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[11:44:31] tobiasvl: elisaado: I ignored those years ago
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[12:12:07] apeiros: ar: I solved that via method_missing
[12:12:37] apeiros: since lvars and methods are syntactically indistinguishable (that is, if you use the method without arg/block)
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[12:31:39] ar: apeiros: oh. can you show how?
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[12:34:57] apeiros: ar: https://github.com/apeiros/directory_template/blob/master/lib/directory_template/erb_template.rb look for the Variables class
[12:35:23] apeiros: I'm not sure it's the latest iteration I've written of that class, but it should still suffice as an example
[12:35:46] ar: thanks :)
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[13:08:34] elisaado: tobiasvl: can't I disable them in my config? lol
[13:09:06] tobiasvl: sure you can
[13:09:34] tobiasvl: elisaado: https://weechat.org/files/doc/devel/weechat_faq.en.html#filter_irc_join_part_quit
[13:09:56] tobiasvl: filter it on specific channels if you want it on globally
[13:10:37] elisaado: tobiasvl: Thanks!
[13:12:33] elisaado: Someone join and leave
[13:12:36] elisaado: Wanna see if it works :p
[13:12:59] dminuoso: weechat users, lets unite.
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[13:13:17] tobiasvl: I just did a /cycle
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[13:15:40] dminuoso: I could do this all day long!
[13:15:42] dminuoso: Thank you tobiasvl!
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[13:15:54] elisaado: I still see it
[13:15:58] elisaado: I'll disable the smart filter
[13:16:06] elisaado: I'll use the non smart filter
[13:16:17] dminuoso: elisaado: well its supposed to.
[13:16:22] dminuoso: elisaado: Just wait, it will disappear.
[13:16:38] dminuoso: elisaado: The reason is if theres a part/join directly around the time someone speaks, those join/quit will be displayed.
[13:17:00] dminuoso: elisaado: let me demonstrate..
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[13:17:39] dminuoso: elisaado: Did you see hello_elisaado joining just now?
[13:20:16] elisaado: dminuoso: I did
[13:20:32] elisaado: Maybe I should
[13:20:53] dminuoso: elisaado: then you didnt correctly set up the smart filter
[13:21:03] elisaado: Or I didn't enable it
[13:21:26] elisaado: /filter add irc_smart irc.freenode.#ruby irc_smart_filter #ruby
[13:21:37] elisaado: oh I think I know why
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[13:23:11] dminuoso: elisaado: did you see hello_elisaado now?
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[13:28:43] elisaado: dminuoso: weeiiirddd
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[13:28:52] elisaado: I'm a weechat noob
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[14:00:01] norm: Is there a way to instance_eval a method defined in a module? Here’s what I’m trying to do… https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7670038bce5a601bacc692a626038cad
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[14:03:31] NL3limin4t0r: Norm: Is there a reason you don't include ExtraMethods inside Student?
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[14:04:37] NL3limin4t0r: Because if you did you could just: `Student.new.print_age`.
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[14:04:45] norm: Unfortunately, yes. Let me make my gist a little closer to what I’m actually doing ...
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[14:06:13] NL3limin4t0r: If you don't want to clutter the Student class you can extend the instance: `Student.new.extend(ExtraMethods).print_age`
[14:06:58] norm: I’m mocking up a way to register/unregister functionality on an object, like this https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e6f0c6a0dfed46ebc452e6a3d16bb7aa
[14:07:40] norm: in reality, a little more complicated than that contrived example. But basically, each plugin is a module that provides a register/unregister method, which would be instance_eval’d on the object receiving the plugin
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[14:09:23] NL3limin4t0r: If the method isn't private I would use #extend to extend the instance and call the method after extending.
[14:10:33] norm: oh, since every time you extend, you’re overwriting the previous plugin’s register/unregister method?
[14:11:02] norm: i seem to remember that ‘extends’ actually adds a layer to the object’s inheritance rather than overwrites methods. it’s been a while since i read ‘metaprogramming ruby’
[14:11:48] NL3limin4t0r: It adds the method to the instance singleton class.
[14:12:34] NL3limin4t0r: If you extend multiple modules they all get added to the same instance singleton class, overwriting methods already present there.
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[14:18:58] NL3limin4t0r: Norm: If you don't want to add the methods to the instance you can #dup or #clone first. However if you do this the attribute of your original object are not effected.
[14:19:20] norm: i’m still thinking there ought to be a way to .instance_eval that method … somehow
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[14:22:59] elomatreb: Norm: Not beautiful, but this works: https://eval.in/915497
[14:23:33] norm: that’s getting there
[14:25:36] norm: I think that will be the winner
[14:25:42] norm: thanks NL3limin4t0r & elomatreb
[14:26:08] NL3limin4t0r: Ah, elomatreb got me an idea, maybe you can do p.instance_eval(& ExtraMethod.instance_method(:print_age))
[14:26:19] norm: that’s what I was just trying actually :)
[14:26:55] norm: nope, you cannot instance_eval an unbound method
[14:26:59] elomatreb: instance_method returns an UnboundMethod, you need to bind it first
[14:27:03] norm: wrong argument type UnboundMethod (expected Proc)
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[14:27:22] elomatreb: but &m.bind(s) works, saves you the explicit .call
[14:27:37] elomatreb: Uh, never mind, I confused it
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[14:33:05] hays: when i type chruby I get chruby: unknown Ruby: ruby-2.2.5
[14:33:43] elomatreb: I think you just need to put the version number (no prefix) for default MRI
[14:34:05] hays: where do i do that
[14:34:28] elomatreb: On the terminal? `chruby 2.2.5`
[14:34:54] hays: I have 2.2.8
[14:35:03] hays: why is it trying to load .2.5
[14:35:44] elomatreb: You either 1. have it do that somewhere in your dotfiles/shell-rc files or 2. you installed that addon that auto switches based on .ruby-version files in directories
[14:36:24] hays: ahh. there it is. .ruby-version
[14:37:18] hays: keeping my rubies up to date has been a bit of a pain
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[17:04:54] bud_spencer: Is there native Ruby implementation that has GIL, which allows also cpu bound tasks, as it is possible with Python, where after some ticks tasks are switched when doing something cpu intensive?
[17:05:12] bud_spencer: Or can we except something like that in future?
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[17:17:37] havenwood: bud_spencer: Like the Python GIL, the CRuby one doesn't block certain types of operation. They both use a real system thread for scheduling. As far as I know Ruby has had this since Ruby 1.9.
[17:18:02] havenwood: bud_spencer: JRuby of course doesn't have a GIL.
[17:18:40] havenwood: bud_spencer: Upcoming possible things on the horizon for Ruby are Thribers and Guilds.
[17:18:49] havenwood: Thribers: https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/13618
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[17:19:57] havenwood: Guilds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIrYh14H9kA
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[17:21:28] havenwood: bud_spencer: Just like Python they're working on blocking less with the GVL.
[17:21:57] bud_spencer: havenwood: I tried week ago RoR server with some Japanesse name (don't remember right now) and infinite loop blocked all other web requests
[17:22:04] havenwood: bud_spencer: Ruby 3 won't have a GIL, it'll instead be locks per Guild.
[17:25:23] bud_spencer: oh, it was Puma server
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[17:34:58] pragmatism: Is there a differences between `def foo(bar:bar)` and `def foo(bar:)`?
[17:35:14] pragmatism: *`def foo(bar: bar)`
[17:35:36] pragmatism: Is the former just redundant?
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[17:37:44] elomatreb: The former has a default value and is thus optional, whereas the latter is required and calling the method without it will raise an error
[17:38:17] elomatreb: So the only difference is the space? That shouldn't be a difference
[17:39:38] havenwood: pragmatism: Every style guide I've seen insists on the space.
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[17:41:19] WhereIsMySpoon: Yo! So I'm trying to use Gosu on ubuntu, and I'm getting 'Assertion pthread_mutex_unlock failed at pulsecore/mutex-posix'... blah, when trying to use sound specifically
[17:41:29] WhereIsMySpoon: anyone seen this before?
[17:41:37] WhereIsMySpoon: would love some help
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[17:45:36] pragmatism: elomatreb but the argument in `def foo(bar: bar)` is a variable, not a default.
[17:46:41] elomatreb: It will (try to) call a method by that name
[17:46:44] pragmatism: WhereIsMySpoon is that lib compatible with the version of Ruby you're using?
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[17:47:04] WhereIsMySpoon: it works absolutely fine on mac
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[17:50:01] pragmatism: Sounds like a good question to pose in the issues tracker for that project
[17:50:06] pragmatism: You may not be the first to experience it
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[18:37:03] WhereIsMySpoon: Anyone know how to make ocra bundle up my app that uses curses into an exe?
[18:37:24] WhereIsMySpoon: If i try ocra myscript.rb it runs my script which loads up my game in the console and curses takes over lol
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[18:39:41] WhereIsMySpoon: ah, --no-dep-run
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[19:09:20] havenwood: rubycoder37: hi
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[19:18:51] rubycoder37: xmas is coming soon and looks like a new ruby version will be released, I couldn't be happier
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[19:23:30] elomatreb: I feel like this was probably answered here a lot already, but I couldn't find it: A friend is asking for a simple Ruby open source app to see how Ruby is used in the real world, but all I could think of were either very complex, very specific, or Rails applications
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[19:32:21] dminuoso: elomatreb: And Rails applications are not written in Ruby?
[19:32:32] dminuoso: elomatreb: Just take gitlab, there's gajillion pieces that are not rails related.
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[19:34:03] dminuoso: elomatreb: There's also metasploit
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[19:35:04] dminuoso: elomatreb: Or maybe.. show him our *rails* itself is made.
[19:35:04] rubycoder37: any ideas how I can make this test better? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ca3b854467399d66bf2876631b0a8a99
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[19:36:18] dminuoso: rubycoder37: What is it lacking?
[19:39:44] rubycoder37: here's the code: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1f2c3a0096a0f645b44b39e4efb5b06f
[19:40:07] rubycoder37: dminuoso: good question, I didn't write the code
[19:40:27] rubycoder37: I have to figure that out
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[19:44:51] Cavallari: Is there a rails channel?
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[20:09:00] Ober: and #offrails
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[20:22:25] elomatreb: dminuoso: Sorry, was away. I showed them Homebrew, thank you for the idea. The problem with Rails was that they said they felt like they didn't understand the complexity, they specifically asked me for a non-rails project
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[20:40:44] chrisgopher: As a junior dev, what should I do when seniors have been arguing about fuzzy searches and trigrams for 2 hours |:
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[20:46:41] Papierkorb: Or listen to grab some keywords, maybe there's something interesting to google about
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[20:51:31] chrisgopher: << yep, doing that
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[20:56:29] dminuoso: chrisgopher: Are you talking about a meeting, or just sitting next to you?
[20:57:17] chrisgopher: Sitting next to me, it began as a convo about making it more accurate. However now, I think its gotten a little out of hand
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[20:59:45] Ober: how can you call a method in the background? thread.new?
[21:00:00] baweaver: chrisgopher: Time for coffee then, let them battle it out.
[21:00:18] ljarvis: Ober: sure
[21:00:26] baweaver: Ober: define background. In general yes
[21:00:45] baweaver: though there may be better solutions depending on what it is
[21:00:57] baweaver: "it" being what you're wanting to background
[21:00:59] Ober: need to kick off to methods that are long running.
[21:01:18] baweaver: Then threads may not be a good idea. Have you looked into Sidekiq or other job servers?
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[21:04:39] dminuoso: chrisgopher: If you cant understand anything, plug in headphones and do something productive with your time. :-)
[21:05:03] baweaver: dminuoso: like learning Haskell? ;)
[21:05:09] dminuoso: baweaver: :-)
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[21:05:15] ljarvis: thats when you stahp
[21:05:34] ljarvis: anyone else doing adventofcode this year?
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[21:13:37] chrisgopher: dminuoso: haha yeah, I just plugged in and am working on some tests
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