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[01:29:49] JJBby: Hello, I am having some trouble installing ruby in ubuntu 17.10, i very new and following a guide so i am not sure what the error is that i am recieving or how to fix it...help would be appreciated
[01:29:51] JJBby: https://pasteboard.co/H0x4SOb.png
[01:30:20] JJBby: I initially tried to install 2.5.0 but that was resulted in the same error
[01:37:13] havenwood: JJBby: run: rvm get head
[01:37:43] JJBby: havenwood: RVM Reloaded!
[01:37:58] havenwood: JJBby: then try: rvm install ruby
[01:38:33] JJBby: havenwood: still get the error, it says run an update and i get an error there
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[02:01:15] havenwood: JJBby: What error do you get from?: sudo apt-get update
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[02:15:56] JJBby: havenwood: i was having an error with a hexchat repository. #linux helped me a lot and got that resolved, trying to get Ruby now
[02:16:10] JJBby: also, why does every one look at me funny when i talk about learning ruby?
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[13:20:00] mikhael_k33hl: I have a class with a constant point to a location where to create a file, how do I change it's value during test?
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[13:23:59] livcd: mikhael_k33hl: afaik you can do constant stubbing in rspec
[13:24:17] mikhael_k33hl: livcd: I'm using minitest though
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[13:26:41] livcd: mikhael_k33hl: idk try this https://github.com/adammck/minitest-stub-const
[13:32:03] mikhael_k33hl: livcd: I'll look into that, thanks
[13:32:47] mikhael_k33hl: basically, I am using a singleton class that created an instance variable for database connection . . . is that evne a good practice?
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[13:38:19] lupine: well, that rather depends
[13:41:12] mikhael_k33hl: I have this code: https://gist.github.com/marzdgzmn/83bb64c59ab42daf1ad764e1f78ba7f5 that I'm trying to test: https://gist.github.com/marzdgzmn/aa7cc37f35127d8138a9a376d8374631, but I'm getting some errors: https://gist.github.com/marzdgzmn/85a30695367d590f2bc352b8d513d85e
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[14:07:03] leitz: Is there a way to substitute one list of words for another? I have a long text and all instances of "ThisWord" should be "ThatWord"; there are about a dozen different word pair changes to be made.
[14:07:31] leitz: Or just run each line through a gsub!, once for each pair of words?
[14:09:21] apeiros: list = {"original" => "substitute", …}; after = text.gsub(Regexp.union(list.keys), list)
[14:10:17] apeiros: note: this will also do e.g. with {"boots" => "shoes"} and "I have bootstrapped this" turn it into "I have shoesstrapped this"
[14:10:41] apeiros: i.e. you may want to add some guarding, depending on what exactly you want to do.
[14:14:17] leitz: apeiros, thanks! Keys should be fairly unique, they are planet names.
[14:14:57] leitz: And where I misselled a character's name. :)
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[14:28:52] livcd: Is the well grounded rubyist book worth buying ?
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[15:09:28] leitz: livcd, make sure it is right for your level of skill. https://gist.github.com/baweaver/57a7c8296ca2c03effbd8fac1e7f6b40
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[15:22:37] havenwood: livcd: and it's worth bothering to get the most recent addition so you have less to catch up on
[15:23:29] leitz: ACTION is still using pre Ruby 2.0 books. 
[15:24:11] leitz: If you are going to use recent versions of Ruby then yeah, get the newest version of the book(s) you can afford. I think POODR will be coming out with an update later in 2018.
[15:25:12] leitz: apeiros, thanks! I've been playing with your gsub solution and it works for a test case. Need to put it to real use.
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[17:28:37] leitz: Style question. If the program takes an option, and the opt.on runs a method that opens a file, should the "file not found" exception be in the opt.on or the method?
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[17:31:05] leitz: https://gist.github.com/LeamHall/4177767438cdc74ad46bf918f8415608
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[17:57:49] xco: hi. String#intern and String#to_sym do EXACTLY they same thing, why does Ruby have two methods doing the same thing?
[18:00:09] al2o3-cr: xco: possible aliases?
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[18:05:38] al2o3-cr: xco: you'll be surprised at how many there is.
[18:06:35] leitz: xco, al2o3-cr is right. Ruby is widely used where people speak different languages. While most of the key words are in English there are a lot of aliases to make things easier for a global audience.
[18:06:48] NewYears: https://www.codecademy.com/en/forum_questions/512a675cf116c52d0d00674b
[18:07:38] xco: leitz: i was just going to ask WHY we need aliases for method names. what’s the difference between #to_sym and #intern to a Mandarin speaker?
[18:08:11] xco: they could both be treated as english words, which all Ruby keywords are anyway
[18:09:07] leitz: xco, there are a lot of aliases. As far as I can tell they are to make things easier for the programmer. I tend to pick one and stick with it, but I'm not a Ruby expert.
[18:09:23] leitz: So, "why" seems to be "to make it easier".
[18:09:32] xco: leitz: right
[18:09:42] xco: i’ll have to accept that
[18:09:59] leitz: xco, what issue does it cause?
[18:10:09] xco: confusion
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[18:19:09] millz: xco, aliases give alot of flexibility
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[18:21:45] leitz: ACTION thinks he's pretty cool: ruby 2.6.0dev (2017-12-27 trunk 61495) [x86_64-linux]
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[18:34:13] havenwood: xco: Folk coming from different schools of language look for different keywords and Matz wanted them to easily find what they're looking for.
[18:35:13] xco: havenwood: well this makes more sense. thank you
[18:35:38] havenwood: xco: Someone coming from Smalltalk would expect "symbol" where many other languages call them "interned strings".
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[18:39:02] havenwood: xco: A bunch of the aliases are the Smalltalk versus Lispy/functional name for the thing.
[18:39:58] havenwood: Like collect and select (Smalltalk) versus map and find (Lisp).
[18:41:42] havenwood: Ruby doesn't have filter *yet*.
[18:43:01] havenwood: https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/13784
[18:43:04] xco: with this thought of “accommodating” different language backgrounds i think it even wise. i won’t question aliases in ruby anymore. didn’t see the sense until now
[18:45:35] millz: In my own classes that I use for various projects, I'll use aliases to fit the dsl of whatever I might use it in
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[18:54:28] xco: i’m reading Ruby Cookbook and it’s claiming this “the hash valuse of a symbol is simply its ojbect ID.” so i did this h = :string and then puts h.hash, puts h.object_id. i got -2900118750444978704 and 276508. why did the book make this clame?
[18:54:31] xco: claim***
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[22:23:01] mynameisdebian: Is there a Ruby gem that uses Ruby-style syntax to insert into a MySQL (or other) database? By which I mean, instead of having to build a string "INSERT INTO people VALUES ..." I could just do "people.insert(people, values)" or something like that?
[22:24:15] apeiros: mynameisdebian: sequel
[22:24:34] apeiros: alternatively activerecord and rom (if that's still the name)
[22:25:10] mynameisdebian: apeiros: thanks!
[22:25:15] apeiros: https://github.com/jeremyevans/sequel - I tend to use it if I don't want an ORM, but it contains one too if you want.
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