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[10:03:49] al2o3-cr: why does `method(:Rational)` #=> #<Method: main.Rational> on 2.5?
[10:08:06] al2o3-cr: does it return the receiver now
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[12:57:51] cousin_luigi: ACTION doesn't know the first thing about ruby, but he'd like to make this thing work from command line: RbConfig::CONFIG['ruby_version'].gsub(/^(\d+\.\d+).*$/, "\1")
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[12:58:07] cousin_luigi: It returns a conversion error.
[13:00:31] go|dfish: >> RbConfig::CONFIG['ruby_version'].gsub(/^(\d+\.\d+).*$/, "\1")
[13:00:32] ruby[bot]: go|dfish: # => "\u0001" (https://eval.in/938845)
[13:00:54] go|dfish: although you'd want "\\1" or '\1' to refer to the capture group
[13:02:42] cousin_luigi: That's not what I was expecting.
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[13:04:54] go|dfish: cousin_luigi: well, what exactly are you doing? what exactly is generating this error?
[13:05:07] go|dfish: because the code you've given "works"
[13:07:27] cousin_luigi: go|dfish: I've extracted that snippet from an existing non ruby macro. It's supposed to output x.y.z, e.g. 2.1.0. Right now I'm seeing -e:1:in `gsub': no implicit conversion of Fixnum into String (TypeError)
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[13:09:37] cousin_luigi: I'm most likely too green.
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[13:21:33] cousin_luigi: Oh, found out. My bad.
[13:21:37] cousin_luigi: thanks everyone, bbl!
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[16:18:58] arne: how does websockets integrate into rack?
[16:19:17] arne: is there something that does not force me into EM?
[16:19:57] havenwood: arne: ActionCable is one option that doesn't use EM.
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[16:20:31] havenwood: arne: All options will use Rack hijack.
[16:22:47] arne: what does that mean.. that control will be stolen from rack?
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[16:24:31] havenwood: arne: Well, it's a socket hijacking API, so yeah - basically. Or there's partial hijacking.
[16:24:53] arne: why, what is the problem with rack supporting websockets and providing an interface for websockets
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[16:29:39] havenwood: arne: https://github.com/rack/rack/pull/1107
[16:29:42] havenwood: arne: Reasons.
[16:32:16] arne: > The Websocket Callback Object
[16:32:19] arne: that thing exists?
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[16:32:59] arne: can you use that in a sentence?
[16:33:15] havenwood: arne: The callback object is a lambda.
[16:33:38] havenwood: >> -> { :land_shark }.call
[16:33:39] ruby[bot]: havenwood: # => :land_shark (https://eval.in/938979)
[16:34:14] arne: and the return value of that lambda should be an object implementing such methods?
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[16:35:01] arne: and that is a thing that exists.. this is kind of the rack api to websockets?
[16:35:02] havenwood: arne: Whatcha looking at using WebSockets for?
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[16:35:32] arne: im thinkking of wirting my own web framework
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[16:35:56] arne: where if possible data between client and server should be moved over websockets
[16:36:05] havenwood: arne: I'd suggest looking at HTTP2.
[16:36:22] arne: uhm, is rack 1.1 only?
[16:36:35] havenwood: arne: https://github.com/igrigorik/http-2
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[16:38:01] arne: and rack can't do that? i always assumed
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[16:39:06] arne: and what if a browser doesn't want http2 ? will the http-2 package fallback to http-1?
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[16:40:56] havenwood: arne: Rack only supports HTTP 1.1 at this point. Aaron and Eileen added some Push support if I recall, but most of the spec is unimplemented.
[16:41:07] havenwood: arne: https://caniuse.com/#feat=http2
[16:41:44] arne: man the opera mini guys will be really missing out
[16:42:00] havenwood: arne: H2 has been around for long enough that the browser support is good.
[16:42:14] havenwood: Yeah, poor Opera Mini.
[16:42:18] arne: yeah i think that for a website that is not ebay that would be enough
[16:42:38] arne: and the ruby package is good?
[16:42:41] arne: has it good performance?
[16:42:47] arne: do i have 1 thread per connection?
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[16:47:25] havenwood: arne: It is a good package. The authors know what they're doing.
[16:47:46] havenwood: arne: It's a thing you can implement a server or client on top of.
[16:47:51] arne: but i won't run my rack applications on it
[16:48:02] havenwood: arne: It's not Rack, no.
[16:48:03] arne: so that's sad
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[16:48:15] havenwood: arne: Here's an H2 client, for example: https://github.com/kenichi/h2
[16:49:03] arne: too bad :/
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[16:49:57] arne: think that is a no for ruby then :(
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[16:50:18] arne: for possible language to write thiss framework in
[16:51:02] arne: my plan is to have a solution for the client/server model stuff
[16:51:32] havenwood: arne: I'd recommend you pursue H2 not WebSockets whatever stack you choose. Good luck!
[16:51:33] arne: and do handle all boring stuff, like uploading files, forms,
[16:52:00] havenwood: arne: Why are you making a framework? Fun?
[16:52:05] arne: havenwood: how does h2 help me? i mean i want "realtime" stuff
[16:52:08] arne: havenwood: because i hate it
[16:52:10] arne: hate drives me
[16:52:16] arne: i mean all existing ones
[16:52:32] arne: writing models, rewriting them for client.. implement a method serverside
[16:52:35] havenwood: arne: Then try Erlang/Elxiir.
[16:52:36] havenwood: Cowboy is nice.
[16:52:37] arne: hey... write it on client again
[16:52:42] arne: test it.. it's broken
[16:52:58] arne: would've loved ruby.. because opal
[16:53:11] arne: havenwood: i wish i could use haskell but it's sooo ugly
[16:53:26] arne: maybe giving elixir a try
[16:53:29] arne: never heard of cowboy
[16:53:44] arne: haskells rack equivalent has it all.. http2.. websockets..
[16:54:36] havenwood: arne: You mean Wai?
[16:55:09] havenwood: arne: Based on what you've been saying, I'd suggest looking at Elixir Plugs or Phoenix Channels. You'd have to say more about what you're doing and at what scale for better suggestions.
[16:55:46] havenwood: arne: ActionCable is probably the best option for a websockety type channel in Ruby.
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[16:56:01] havenwood: arne: https://hexdocs.pm/phoenix/channels.html
[16:56:15] havenwood: arne: https://github.com/elixir-plug/plug
[16:56:35] havenwood: arne: Both are backed by: https://github.com/ninenines/cowboy
[16:56:55] arne: yes, wai
[16:57:26] havenwood: Rubyists make good Alchemists and Erlangutangs. ;-)
[16:57:59] havenwood: Phoenix uses Plug uses Cowboy.
[16:58:29] arne: i really love the pure function philosophie but im too stupid or it is too stupid
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[17:06:16] elomatreb: ... is the term really Erlangutangs
[17:06:45] arne: well, not official i guess
[17:07:02] arne: alchemist would be much more arrogant :D and also sounds like none knows what he is doing
[17:08:10] Zarthus: and i thought gophers was bad
[17:08:22] arne: who names themselve thath
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[20:56:56] kapil___: i have json:
[20:57:17] kapil___: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/h2AyNUUw/align_it_by_colon.json
[20:57:17] ruby[bot]: kapil___: as I told you already, please use https://gist.github.com
[20:57:58] kapil___: i want to align it by "," and ":" how to do it?
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[21:03:50] meesles: Press space? What do you mean?
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[21:26:34] kapil___: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/DTy7MHzU/output.json
[21:26:35] ruby[bot]: kapil___: as I told you already, please use https://gist.github.com
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[21:27:33] kapil___: is there any gem for it?
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[21:40:39] kapil___: meesles: i want to add spaces automatically
[21:42:02] FCser: Hmm with a regex how can I target \r\n ? According to this tool it’s not /\r\n/ - for example I basically want to remove everything except ‘text to keep’ in this example http://rubular.com/r/2mGWKIUGTO
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[21:43:39] FCser: nevermind maybe it’s due to my quotes
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[22:01:51] adaedra: I think rubular just doesn't interpret \r\n in your input
[22:02:13] adaedra: >> "a\r\nb" =~ /\r\n/
[22:02:14] ruby[bot]: adaedra: # => 1 (https://eval.in/939087)
[22:02:53] FCser: ok thanks adaedra
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[22:10:21] fredolinhares: If I write a lib for Ruby that uses code from a C lib, is okay to implement the Ruby code in C or is better to do bindings first?
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[22:11:39] fredolinhares: I don't want to do the entire biding for some libs to only after implement the lib I want.
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[22:26:08] andy_ruby: so, File.puts('something'). why doesn't it write until i call read or rewind?
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[22:28:58] adaedra: Buffered write, I guess
[22:29:12] adaedra: Try to use flush to manually flush or sync= to disable buffering
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[23:27:20] kspencer: Does anyone know of a markdown linter that can be used easily inside code, instead of using it as a shell command, I'd like to lint markdown given as input, but can't find any libraries where thats easily accessible, mdl/markdownlint are both 99% just used as a executable, and i don't see an easy entry point
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