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[00:01:51] dostoyevsky: > ASTBuilder > @parser_class and return_value = return_value.tree
[00:02:13] dostoyevsky: what does that ruby syntax mean? ASTBuilder <greater than> other_class
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[10:45:22] zenspider: dostoyevsky: `ri Module."<"`
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[10:55:31] apeiros_: &ri Module#<
[10:55:31] `derpy: http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.4.1/Module.html#method-i-3C
[10:55:34] apeiros_: zenspider: ^
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[13:27:03] morfin: hello again
[13:27:28] morfin: how can i detect who's mail hoster by address?
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[13:27:38] morfin: look up MX and then check?>
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[13:29:45] morfin: as example corporate email could look like somename@mycompany.ru but hoster is yandex.ru so i need to find out it's yandex.ru not google.com or something else
[13:29:56] darix: morfin: MX records
[13:30:01] darix: that's what mail servers are using
[13:30:12] morfin: well, like i said )
[13:31:39] morfin: problem is that i dug my company domain and there is no such thing
[13:32:46] morfin: ah nevermind, i had to specify i want MX record: it points to mx.yandex.ru. which is thing i am looking for
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[13:34:22] darix: correct. you have to ask for what you want to know.
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[13:39:27] apeiros: note that an MX record is not quired
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[13:45:05] morfin: apeiros, what do you mean?
[13:45:20] apeiros: I mean that it's possible to not have an MX entry
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[13:45:29] morfin: hmm good point
[13:46:05] morfin: i will ignore all accounts with unknown typew
[13:46:18] apeiros: in that case, A, AAAA and iirc even CNAME are used
[13:46:27] morfin: i detect from domain first, then will try MX and then screw iot
[13:46:47] darix: morfin: wrong order. MX first and fallback to connecting to the hostname directly
[13:47:08] morfin: hmm you think so?
[13:47:35] apeiros: actually cname first
[13:47:47] darix: apeiros: naw
[13:47:48] apeiros: then mx > aaaa > a
[13:48:12] lomex: apeiros If they dont have an MX record for that domain i would suggest the whole e-mail is not valid?
[13:48:13] darix: apeiros: tbh ... MX or die ... :P
[13:48:24] darix: Lomex: it is
[13:48:30] apeiros: Lomex: you're mistaken
[13:48:32] apeiros: https://stackoverflow.com/a/12207534/764342
[13:48:33] morfin: basically hosters require it
[13:48:54] apeiros: (rfc is more annoying to get the relevant parts)
[13:49:13] morfin: so if you register account for enterprise emails on GMail you have to add MX into your NS
[13:49:26] morfin: same for Yandex, idk what about others
[13:49:39] dostoyevsky: I love ruby, but man, it is slow
[13:49:40] darix: morfin: that is different
[13:49:47] darix: dostoyevsky: maybe your code is slow?
[13:50:06] morfin: darix, basically i am concerned about that case mostly
[13:50:41] lomex: darix apeiros interesting
[13:52:12] morfin: you register my-company.com then you want create enterprise mails using some service(as example GMail), you have to register MX in your DNS so association will exist between my-company.com and your account
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[15:11:11] MasterOfDisaster: hey, is there a way to use DESTDIR with bundler? I'm having trouble using native dependencies for gems.
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[15:38:35] morfin: i detect MX => address
[15:39:01] morfin: to parse address i use Mail::Address.parse('myemail@example.com')
[15:39:21] morfin: *Mail::Address.new('myemail@example.com')
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[18:33:49] dostoyevsky: Is jupyter good to use with the ruby kernel?
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[20:33:25] crst: Hi, how can I make name dependent on another field in the same object? https://bpaste.net/show/c607ad9d64c4
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[22:28:40] weaksauce: crst pull the stat out of the create part.
[22:28:45] weaksauce: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/69db0ae76afc24f86686f20c4446f4a5
[22:29:20] weaksauce: er. without the `this.` part above
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[22:33:22] crst: weaksauce: sure, thanks a lot man!
[22:34:05] weaksauce: crst no problem. look up scope if you want to learn more about it
[22:34:31] crst: ok, thanks
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[22:53:07] zumbi_: I am not into ruby, however I have a problem building innertube gem with ruby2.5
[22:53:36] zumbi_: while it builds fine on previous ruby versions, is there some guide to port code to ruby 2.5?
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[23:14:28] havenwood: zumbi_: What error are you seeing?
[23:14:32] havenwood: zumbi_: What version of Ruby was it before?
[23:14:45] havenwood: zumbi_: If you gist the errors we can probably point you to the solution.
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