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[02:07:39] lystra: I built a custom ruby-2.4.4 and am trying to install bones-3.8.4.gem: https://pastebin.com/a0xs58P5. Any idea why a require "loqacious" works but installing bones-3.8.4 doesn't find it? gem env looks correct. System is RHEL6.
[02:07:40] ruby[bot]: lystra: we in #ruby do not like pastebin.com, it loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting. Please use https://gist.github.com
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[02:12:57] lystra: I built a custom ruby-2.4.4 and am trying to install bones-3.8.4.gem: https://gist.github.com/twwlogin/aa506249a7bc3ed8995b8d9084dd34aa. ny idea why a require "loqacious" works but installing bones-3.8.4 doesn't find it? gem env looks correct. System is RHEL6.
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[03:44:20] havenwood: lystra: does it work without the --local flag?
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[06:23:30] Cork: i'm trying to use a c lib through fiddle but i get stuck at trying to handle a "typedef const char* knot_ctl_data_t[KNOT_CTL_IDX__COUNT];" in ruby
[06:23:46] Cork: how would one correctly handle an array of char pointers in ruby??
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[07:28:48] baweaver: New article out on playing with deep hashes with Xf - https://medium.com/@baweaver/on-dealing-with-deep-hashes-in-ruby-xf-part-one-scopes-f63447d59ee1
[07:29:14] baweaver: Only Scopes for now, traces next. Much more than a 6 minute long read and it gets pretty dense, so breaking them up
[07:29:17] baweaver: that, and sleep is good.
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[08:44:49] Cork: how would one set the pointer in a Fiddle struct?
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[08:48:10] dminuoso: Fiddle has structs?
[08:48:33] dminuoso: Oh you mean CStruct
[08:48:40] dminuoso: Cork: Fiddle::CStructEntity#[]=
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[08:50:15] Cork: dminuoso: i have Data = struct ["int op", "char* data[12]"] and want to try to set the data pointers
[08:50:54] Cork: but arg = Data.malloc; arg.data.first = "test".pack("p*") gives me error first has no setter
[08:52:04] dminuoso: Cork: what does `struct ["int op", "char* data[12]"]` mean
[08:52:42] Cork: dminuoso: http://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.5.0/libdoc/fiddle/rdoc/Fiddle/Importer.html#method-i-struct
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[08:54:45] Cork: arg.data.first is a Fiddle::Pointer
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[08:55:33] dminuoso: Cork: No idea what the idiomatic way would be. But you could just take its .ref and write through that
[08:56:07] Cork: dminuoso: what do you mean?
[08:56:27] dminuoso: Cork: Fiddle::Pointer#[]=
[08:57:07] dminuoso: Cork: Lets you write a value to where a pointer points at.
[08:57:18] dminuoso: Cork: .ref gives you a pointer pointing at a pointer..
[08:57:23] Cork: so loop the string and copy the characters
[08:57:37] dminuoso: Cork: You dont have to loop
[08:57:55] dminuoso: Cork: ptr[start, len] = str
[08:58:11] dminuoso: that is a *pointer* to a buffer
[08:59:01] Cork: if i set it with [] i start to get weird exceptions afterwards
[08:59:12] Cork: 1: from /usr/lib/ruby/2.5.0/fiddle/struct.rb:157:in `[]'
[08:59:12] Cork: NoMethodError (undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass)
[08:59:26] Cork: everytime i start to try to access arg.data
[08:59:53] dminuoso: Cork: Incorrectly set the ctypes Im guessing.
[09:01:35] Cork: start to wonder if it wouldn't just be simpler to write to the socket directly instead of through this damn lib...
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[12:09:42] ujjain: test = test.to_f(); or test = test.to_f; which is correct?
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[12:21:15] dminuoso: ujjain: that depends on what you mean by "correct
[12:21:19] dminuoso: Syntactically both are valid.
[12:21:25] dminuoso: Semantically they are equivalent.
[12:21:34] dminuoso: Idiomatically the second is preferred.
[12:22:07] dminuoso: Though Ive had rare cases where I preferred the first to emphasize a method (in concept) rather than an attribute (in concept)
[12:22:37] ujjain: ah thanks dminuoso
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[13:14:21] apeiros: dminuoso: command-query separation through syntax? :)
[13:14:48] apeiros: though, maybe more like static-/dynamic-query separation
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[14:03:26] apeiros: which version starts supporting `# frozen_string_literal: true`?
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[14:04:51] apeiros: I hope that ? is a !, and in that case: thanks :D
[14:05:18] apeiros: also on a random note - I have no idea how I'm currently connected to irc. wifi menuitem says I'm disconnected.
[14:05:26] dminuoso: Well yes.. Im just a bit surprised you chose to type that much into weechat when typing half as much into google would have produced the same answer.
[14:05:46] apeiros: everybody knows irc >> google
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[14:10:52] dminuoso: apeiros: Could not deduce (Monad Irc)
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[14:15:36] apeiros: dminuoso: you're a terrible interpreter
[14:15:52] apeiros: (pun fully intended :-p )
[14:15:59] dminuoso: No, Im quite powerful!
[14:16:03] dminuoso: You could have simply picked a free monad.
[14:17:26] NL3limin4t0r: Is there a way to have an shadow variable start with the same content as the outer context variable?
[14:17:31] NL3limin4t0r: https://ruby-doc.org/core-2.4.3/doc/syntax/calling_methods_rdoc.html#label-Block+Local+Arguments
[14:18:30] apeiros: NL3limin4t0r: seriously, *why*?
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[14:18:40] NL3limin4t0r: When you initialize a block using `hello = 'world'; 3.times { |i; hello| hello = i * 2; puts hello }`
[14:18:55] NL3limin4t0r: When you initialize a block using `hello = 'world'; 3.times { |i; hello| hello = hello * i; puts hello }`
[14:19:03] NL3limin4t0r: first example was wrong
[14:19:30] NL3limin4t0r: otherwise i have to use an shortend version of the same variable name
[14:19:49] NL3limin4t0r: I'd like to have clear varialbe names
[14:20:00] apeiros: nothing is clear anymore once you shadow
[14:20:29] apeiros: shadowing is one of the most stupid preventable things proglangs allow coders to do
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[14:20:44] NL3limin4t0r: apeiros: Why not? Seems pretty clear to me.
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[14:21:22] apeiros: I hope your future you agrees with you :-p
[14:21:34] NL3limin4t0r: In my case I have an lambda that I curry at the start of a block, than later in the block I use the curried lambda a few times. However I'd like to save the curried lambda under the same name.
[14:21:34] apeiros: (actually I hope it tells you that you've been doing something stupid and does better)
[14:24:29] NL3limin4t0r: seems like it's not even posible, since a shaddowd variable starts initialized at `nil` so guess I just make an abbreviated version of the same variable.
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[22:26:44] warrshrike: def nearest_palindromic(n) half = n.sub(0, n.length/2) end
[22:26:50] warrshrike: print nearest_palindromic("230")
[22:27:05] warrshrike: runner.rb:9:in `sub': no implicit conversion of Integer into String (TypeError)
[22:27:17] warrshrike: is ruby somehow converting the string input to int?
[22:27:22] warrshrike: thats...weird
[22:27:27] warrshrike: id use an int if i wanted an int
[22:29:10] warrshrike: no thats not what its doing...
[22:29:16] warrshrike: but any idea whats wrong?
[22:31:17] apeiros: &ri String#sub warrshrike
[22:31:17] `derpy: warrshrike: http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.4.1/String.html#method-i-sub
[22:31:52] warrshrike: nvm I got it I have been writing kotlin code for way too long please excuse my ignorance
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