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[00:41:04] baweaver: I would greatly appreciate comments and feedbacks on the proposal for Pattern Matching in Ruby: https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/14709
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[00:48:38] weaksauce: oh my. pattern matching in ruby?!? that's seriously cool
[00:50:16] baweaver: Also upvotes are appreciated if you're in reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ruby/comments/8ephpm/proposal_for_pattern_matching_in_ruby/
[00:54:12] weaksauce: baweaver pattern matching in swift is pretty nice
[00:54:33] weaksauce: though it's more pervasive at all levels
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[01:01:21] weaksauce: elixir would be the other standout one on pattern matching at least function definitions
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[01:23:09] baweaver: Suggest it!
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[02:46:44] mikhael_k33hl_: I'm currently looking at the puma threadpool implementation: https://github.com/puma/puma/blob/master/lib/puma/thread_pool.rb What does the self.clean_thread_locals do?
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[04:59:39] JJonah: For a method `test` with only keyword args, `p Test.method(:test).parameters` returns `[[:rest]]`. I'd like to get the actual names of the keywords. Is it possible?
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[05:02:03] havenwood: JJonah: Kwargs *should* show the name of the keyword. What version of Ruby are you on?
[05:02:23] havenwood: >> module Test; module_function; def test kwarg: :yup, aim: true; end end; Test.method(:test).parameters # JJonah
[05:02:24] ruby[bot]: havenwood: # => [[:key, :kwarg], [:key, :aim]] (https://eval.in/994206)
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[05:04:02] JJonah: havenwood: 2.4.2. however, `test` is an instance method
[05:04:44] havenwood: >> class Test; def test kwarg: :yup, aim: true; end end; Test.instance_method(:test).parameters # JJonah
[05:04:46] ruby[bot]: havenwood: # => [[:key, :kwarg], [:key, :aim]] (https://eval.in/994210)
[05:05:15] havenwood: >> class Test; def test kwarg: :yup, aim: true; end end; Test.new.public_method(:test).parameters
[05:05:16] ruby[bot]: havenwood: # => [[:key, :kwarg], [:key, :aim]] (https://eval.in/994214)
[05:05:43] JJonah: havenwood: weird. ok, something else must be going on. thanks.
[05:05:59] havenwood: JJonah: no prob - good luck hunting down the issue
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[05:07:53] havenwood: JJonah: Even a double-spat kwarg would be :keyrest. Just `[[:rest]]` would be `*` alone.
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[05:08:17] havenwood: >> class Test; def test *; end end; Test.instance_method(:test).parameters # JJonah
[05:08:18] ruby[bot]: havenwood: # => [[:rest]] (https://eval.in/994215)
[05:08:59] havenwood: JJonah: If you even did `*stuff` you'd get `[[:rest, :stuff]]` not `[[:rest, :stuff]]`.
[05:09:14] havenwood: not `[[:rest]]`**
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[05:09:50] havenwood: I guess using double-splat for correction isn't great when talking about double splats. >.>
[05:11:13] JJonah: havenwood: ah, turns out i'd been mucking around and created my own `self.new` method for an unrelated experiment, and had forgotten that i'd done so. when i removed that it worked as it should. just dumb operator error.
[05:11:26] havenwood: JJonah: aha!
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[07:14:43] mikhael_k33hl_: I'm using the 'rsync' gem, can I invoke it inside a class named Rsync?
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[07:16:08] tbuehlmann: mikhael_k33hl_: seems like that gem defines an Rsync module, so you can't have an Rsync class at the same time
[07:16:44] apeiros: and it's not a good idea to have your constants pollute global namespace. try to define a single toplevel namespace for your project and nest your stuff in there.
[07:17:56] tbuehlmann: that's what I thought about the other day, btw: why aren't rails models namespaced within the application's module?
[07:19:29] apeiros: you should ask dhh. rails has a couple of bad practices.
[07:20:04] apeiros: some of them are being removed or replaced, but some remain
[07:20:11] mikhael_k33hl_: tbuehlmann: Oh okay, hehe, I have a module for syncing, and rsync is one of the options I want to put there, and would like to wrap it inside an Rsync class. Anyway, i'll just name it differently
[07:20:37] tbuehlmann: or namespace it, that'd work, too
[07:20:40] apeiros: ::Rsync and ::YourProject::Rsync can coexist just fine
[07:20:48] apeiros: you just can't have to ::Rsync
[07:21:27] apeiros: and I'll reiterate: having a single ::YourProject toplevel name is a good idea (or rather: not having it is a bad idea)
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[07:41:44] dminuoso: ACTION sighs
[07:41:55] dminuoso: Anyone care to write a babeljs plugin for me.
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[09:02:02] mihael_k33hl: I have this code: https://gist.github.com/marzdgzmn/e2944da058d05417a0f0756bbdf804e3 but I'm having problems with it. Tried debugging using pry, but can't inspect the future object, it says undefined local variable or method 'future'
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[09:03:21] mihael_k33hl: got it working, it was binding.pry, I had binding pry, lol
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[09:04:46] apeiros: you're mixing tabs & spaces for indent? srsly?
[09:05:19] dminuoso: Im rather offended that people don't seem to even look at their own gists, and fix them before they show the gist to others.
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[09:28:24] mihael_k33hl: dminuoso: apeiros I'm terribly sorry about that, sublime always messes up my indentation, got to fix it with vim
[09:28:27] mihael_k33hl: https://gist.github.com/fa95c4d4e69eff6ec707c700fa14e94f
[09:28:59] apeiros: hm? the only issue I found with indentation in sublime is that it's guessing algorithm is crap (the one figuring how many spaces one tab should be)
[09:29:32] apeiros: bottom right in the window is where you can tell it what to do for the current file. though you should have a sane default config.
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[09:31:15] mihael_k33hl: apeiros: did not know that, thanks
[09:32:04] dminuoso: mihael_k33hl: My point is: If you submit something to gist, look through it before you share it.
[09:32:22] dminuoso: You can still edit a gist if there's any issues.
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[09:32:45] apeiros: the default settings are under: sublime text -> preferences -> settings
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[09:33:13] apeiros: when you have a ruby file open, you can set ruby specific prefs under: sublime text -> preferences -> settings - syntax specific
[09:33:25] apeiros: "tab_size": 2, "translate_tabs_to_spaces": true,
[09:34:11] mihael_k33hl: apeiros: Oh nice, I really should look into setting it up, i was just using it for a quick text edit though.
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[09:34:39] mihael_k33hl: apeiros: Pertaining my code: https://gist.github.com/marzdgzmn/0f17eae8cea59e3a8174287fe0b6d411 my futures seem to be retrieving duplicates, how is that?
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[09:35:16] mihael_k33hl: only the main thread is shifting the elements from the array though
[09:35:39] elomatreb: Is mirrors thread-safe?
[09:36:59] elomatreb: If it's a plain Ruby array it won't be, and you're racing between shifting the value out and actually decrementing the length
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[09:37:29] dminuoso: ACTION .oO( STM )
[09:38:35] mihael_k33hl: elomatreb: even if the main thread is the only one shifting the value?
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[09:39:52] apeiros: mihael_k33hl: I see nothing obvious. I'd need more knowledge about concurrent-ruby and/or mirror
[09:40:31] apeiros: (that's not a request - I'm on my own stuff currently)
[09:41:12] elomatreb: You're absolutely sure mirrors doesn't actually contain something duplicate?
[09:41:33] mihael_k33hl: apeiros: @mirrors is just an array of OpenStruct . . . concurrent-ruby is the gem I'm using to have a FixedThreadPool . . .
[09:42:55] mihael_k33hl: apeiros: Oh, sorry about that, hehe
[09:43:19] apeiros: hm, I do have an idea. if the block is run delayed, mirror might have already been modified
[09:43:39] apeiros: move the future creation into a separate method, so it gets its own lvar scope
[09:44:15] mihael_k33hl: Placed a mutex on it, seems to have rectified the problem
[09:44:45] apeiros: https://gist.github.com/apeiros/d38f157c19b09a878e0a360b7c0f2cfd
[09:45:23] apeiros: no need for expensive locking if it's just a scoping issue.
[09:45:52] apeiros: also depending on how exactly you placed the mutex, you effectively serialized your futures
[09:46:09] apeiros: (iow, killed your concurrency, which is probably the whole point of using a future…)
[09:46:26] elomatreb: oooh, that's an interesting one
[09:47:05] elomatreb: FWIW, if your futures are going to print, you will need something to handle that as the plain puts is not thread-safe (specifically the part that adds the newlines)
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[09:47:36] apeiros: correct. $stdout is shared mutable state.
[09:49:34] mihael_k33hl: apeiros: Placed the future creation on a separate method, that seems to fixed it, have to look into that lvar scope
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[09:52:39] apeiros: what happened was that the block was executed after your loop already having reached the second iteration
[09:55:21] mihael_k33hl: apeiros: hmmm, so the future creation was executed before the second iteration, is that correct?
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[09:55:58] apeiros: no. the future creation happens in your main thread. but blocks can be executed any time.
[09:56:12] apeiros: i.e. the block you pass to your future is not running in your main thread.
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[15:14:08] Zeroward: Anyone familiar with convering hex to unicode timestamp using ruby?
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[15:14:18] Zeroward: Converting**
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[15:16:20] canton7: I know all of those words. I've no idea what to make of the order you've put them in
[15:16:26] canton7: what's a hex timestamp? What's a unicode timestamp?
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[15:16:52] Zeroward: Lol, honestly, i have a tenuous grasp on what im doing as well.
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[15:17:21] canton7: then what chance do other people have, if you only use 7 words to describe your issue? :P
[15:17:48] apeiros: Zeroward: do you have an example in/output?
[15:17:48] Zeroward: Basically, trying to parse through a binary file and convert a 4 byte string back into unix time.
[15:18:05] apeiros: ACTION suspects some wrong choices of words
[15:18:11] havenwood: Zeroward: Show an example of the string?
[15:18:11] canton7: ah right, so we've moved from unicode timestamps to a unix timestamp, progress!
[15:18:42] apeiros: probably a 4 byte integer representing a unix timestamp / epoch time
[15:18:48] canton7: now have you actaully got a hex *string*? Or a number? How are you reading the binary file? Post an example of you input, as apeiros asked
[15:18:55] Marco_: Hello, anyone knowing a channel for questions about the use of Tk in Ruby ?(sorry if I am on the wrong channel)
[15:18:59] epochwolf: ACTION perks up and then goes back to work.
[15:19:02] apeiros: they probably don't have hex at all
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[15:19:19] apeiros: just looking at hex as a representation of the binary
[15:19:29] canton7: ACTION thought so too
[15:19:38] apeiros: marc__: right channel, but I for one can't help :(
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[15:20:38] havenwood: >> Time.now.to_i.to_s(16) # <- this is hex, Zeroward
[15:20:44] ruby[bot]: havenwood: # => "5ae09ccc" (https://eval.in/994810)
[15:20:46] Marco_: apeiros: thanks
[15:20:47] havenwood: >> Time.now.to_i.to_s(16).hex
[15:20:48] ruby[bot]: havenwood: # => 1524669647 (https://eval.in/994811)
[15:21:02] havenwood: Zeroward: Show us the actual String you're dealing with?
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[15:22:14] apeiros: >> Time.at("Z\xE0\x9C\xFB".unpack("N").first)
[15:22:15] ruby[bot]: apeiros: # => 2018-04-25 15:21:31 +0000 (https://eval.in/994812)
[15:22:22] zeroward_: so i have time_accessed.unpack(*H).to_s
[15:22:32] apeiros: >> Time.at("\x00\x9D\xE0Z".unpack("V").first)
[15:22:33] ruby[bot]: apeiros: # => 2018-04-25 15:21:36 +0000 (https://eval.in/994813)
[15:22:39] zeroward_: after seeking to the position in the file where the time is
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[15:23:04] apeiros: Zeroward: yeah, you're doing too many steps there. that'd be binary -> hex-string -> integer -> time
[15:23:26] apeiros: as you can see above, you can skip the step of going via hex-string.
[15:24:06] apeiros: but you need to know whether your integer is little or big endian, and you need to know whether it's truly a unix epoch timestamp
[15:24:33] apeiros: which is one of the reasons a couple of us asked you for an example in-/output :-p
[15:24:40] havenwood: with Ruby 2.4+ you can use #unpack1 too
[15:24:46] zeroward_: So the input is the wtmp file.
[15:24:51] havenwood: Z\xE0\x9C\xFB".unpack1("N"))
[15:24:53] apeiros: havenwood: oooooooh! <3 TIL
[15:25:07] apeiros: ACTION has no idea what "the wtmp file" is
[15:25:26] apeiros: havenwood: I always wondered why no such method existed
[15:25:29] zeroward_: wtmp file is a log for unix. typically used to log successful logins.
[15:25:38] havenwood: apeiros: yeah, the name is odd, but i'm glad it was added
[15:25:56] Marco_: So as it seems to be the right channel: I try to retrieve the value of the first column from an item retrieved from a treeview using "item.get("#0")" but I got this error "RuntimeError: Display column #0 cannot be set"
[15:26:04] apeiros: zeroward_: you can make it easier for people who try to help you by providing actual values
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[15:26:32] havenwood: marc__: do you have a gist that reproduces it? or can you link to the code?
[15:26:34] zeroward_: Honestly, your solution worked..
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[15:27:05] zeroward_: Like, very well. It gave me exactly what I wanted.
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[15:28:07] zeroward_: But just to clarify, I'll try to explain it a little more. Apologies, I honestly have no clue what I'm doing, and kinda got this project pushed off onto me at work.
[15:29:31] zeroward_: I was getting values of 7a65726f77617264 and such, but had no clue on how to convert it over.
[15:30:13] zeroward_: But yeah, your solution worked, so many thanks!
[15:30:46] Marco_: Hi havenwood, can I send you the file with the example to avoid to copy it on the channel?
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[15:31:03] Marco_: just to avoid the space consuption
[15:31:12] havenwood: marc__: most people use a gist and paste the link
[15:31:13] ruby[bot]: https://gist.github.com - Multiple files, syntax highlighting, even automatically with matching filenames, can be edited
[15:31:44] Marco_: ok sorry I didn't know, I check how it works
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[15:35:43] Marco_: havenwood: here is the link https://gist.github.com/MarcoMaisPasTrop/016f3e1f09d9ebc88001a6e6a2c2b623
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[15:50:01] havenwood: marc__: Looks like you have a typo: 'cyle'
[15:50:22] havenwood: marc__: I can reproduce the "#0 cannot be set" RuntimeError.
[15:51:26] havenwood: marc__: Hrmm, not sure why that's raising from: $tree.get(item.id, '#0')
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[15:51:44] havenwood: I haven't done enough TK to have run into that issue yet.
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[15:55:15] Marco_: havenwood: thanks, I'll keep on looking for the solution and publish if I find
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[16:47:51] KrzaQ: does Ruby's formatting have something like printf's %*d, where * would make it accept size from the params?
[16:48:29] KrzaQ: i.e. '%0*d' % [3, 4] would result in '004'
[16:48:51] apeiros: >> sprintf "%0*d", 10, 123
[16:48:52] ruby[bot]: apeiros: # => "0000000123" (https://eval.in/994840)
[16:49:07] apeiros: you didn't try your own suggestion, eh?
[16:49:21] apeiros: well, next time you will ;-p
[16:49:33] apeiros: irb & pry won't bite you :)
[16:49:36] KrzaQ: I find it difficult to google for this, and I forgot I could check sprintf instead
[16:49:45] KrzaQ: yeah, will do
[16:49:51] apeiros: String#% and sprintf are identical
[16:50:02] apeiros: >> "%0*d" % [10, 123]
[16:50:03] ruby[bot]: apeiros: # => "0000000123" (https://eval.in/994845)
[16:50:13] KrzaQ: yeah, I know that
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[16:50:29] KrzaQ: But I didn't think to google the latter, and the former isn't very google-able
[16:50:31] KrzaQ: thanks, though :)
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[17:09:55] baweaver: Just a reminder that there's an RFC / proposal for Pattern Matching in Ruby currently out: https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/14709
[17:09:55] baweaver: Ideas, syntax suggestions, and otherwise are very much appreciated :)
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[17:10:16] dionysus69: I am doing gem update and it takes forever
[17:10:27] SeepingN: wait longer
[17:10:29] dionysus69: what happened to rubygems lately, its too slow. It used to be fast
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[17:11:06] dionysus69: I even have doc installation disabled and it's super slow, are servers under ddos or what?
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[17:37:22] havenwood: dionysus69: What command are you running?
[17:37:33] havenwood: dionysus69: gem install?
[17:37:58] havenwood: dionysus69: bundle?
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[17:40:22] havenwood: dionysus69: fast on my machine, fwiw
[17:41:10] havenwood: dionysus69: any useful info from?: gem update --debug
[17:41:32] dionysus69: hmm I will terminate it and run it with debug then
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[17:42:34] dionysus69: errors like this https://gist.github.com/webzorg/9e14211b77e62e0ca80d1dbfbcc84a98
[17:42:34] havenwood: dionysus69: Just to sanity check, is your remote source?: https://rubygems.org/
[17:42:40] dionysus69: but I dont really know what this means
[17:42:42] havenwood: dionysus69: gem env remotesources
[17:43:07] dionysus69: yep source is rubygems.org
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[17:43:42] havenwood: dionysus69: it's normal up until you get to these: https://gist.github.com/webzorg/9e14211b77e62e0ca80d1dbfbcc84a98#file-gistfile1-txt-L5-L6
[17:43:46] havenwood: dionysus69: https?
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[17:44:57] havenwood: dionysus69: How long does this take?: time ruby -rresolv -e "Resolv::DNS.new.getresource '_rubygems._tcp.rubygems.org', Resolv::DNS::Resource::IN::SRV"
[17:45:21] havenwood: dionysus69: I get: ruby -rresolv -e 0.07s user 0.02s system 86% cpu 0.103 total
[17:46:28] havenwood: dionysus69: but yeah, seems like you might be having DNS issues
[17:47:26] dionysus69: those 4 lines of errors took about 5 seconds by now there are over ~500 lines
[17:48:25] al2o3-cr: i get "real 0m0.096s user 0m0.064s sys 0m0.010s"
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[17:49:49] dionysus69: real 0m0.074s | user 0m0.062s | sys 0m0.004s
[17:50:27] al2o3-cr: it's not a dns issue then.
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[18:33:41] nima: hey i want to learn ruby
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[18:35:05] eam: nima: hey, you came to the right place
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[18:39:40] nima: i dont know from where i can start?
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[18:41:07] baweaver: There's a book list in the channel topic
[18:41:16] baweaver: though tryruby is probably the easiest start
[18:41:32] baweaver: http://tryruby.org/levels/1/challenges/0
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[19:08:51] zeroward_: So, hopefully the last question. And this one I actually know to explain.
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[19:10:49] zeroward_: Anyone know of a way to basically delete a section of data from a file? Like, let's say the file is 1000 bytes, but I want to only delete bytes 200-300.
[19:11:32] apeiros: you truncate the file and rewrite the rest
[19:11:44] apeiros: that's the unsafe method
[19:11:55] zeroward_: So, whenever I do that, the data somehow changes..
[19:12:04] apeiros: the safe method: you rewrite the file on a different place, then move & remove the original
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[19:25:05] zeroward_: So I'd rewrite bytes 0 - 199, ignore bytes 200 - 300, then write 301 - 1000?
[19:25:46] zeroward_: Haha okay. Thanks!
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[19:30:48] apeiros: alternatively you seek (IO#seek) to byte 200, truncate and write byte 301-1000
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[19:32:06] al2o3-cr: exactly this.
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[20:00:43] morenoh149: hello, what's the common fix for installing ruby on osx?
[20:00:52] morenoh149: I had help here a while back regarding this issue
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[20:05:23] morenoh149: output https://gist.github.com/morenoh149/23b4661b66c4f3a9c1fd6add0cf5ed9c
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[20:08:27] SeepingN: We install via rvm here. But I've heard there are "better" multi-version managers
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[20:08:57] SeepingN: http://rvm.io/rvm/install
[20:10:12] morenoh149: SeepingN: does rvm pull a precompiled binary?
[20:10:25] morenoh149: my issue has to do with compiling ruby for my machine
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[20:34:18] c0lored: Hello, this is a cross post from RubyOnRails
[20:34:23] c0lored: can anyone help wit hthis?
[20:34:32] c0lored: https://pastebin.com/qXdQ9m43
[20:34:33] ruby[bot]: c0lored: we in #ruby do not like pastebin.com, it loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting. Please use https://gist.github.com
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[22:24:18] hays: if i have to be compatible with 1.9.3 should I just use options={} when I want to have something that is like kwargs?
[22:24:33] hays: or is there a way to monkeypatch it in
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[22:25:39] weaksauce: baweaver are you thinking that the pattern matching would be only for case statements or something more broad... i could see type hinting being a powerful thing with pattern matching in ruby
[22:25:41] Radar: NameError: uninitialized constant Test::Project
[22:25:41] Radar: Did you mean? Test::Project
[22:25:45] Radar: ACTION flips a table factory
[22:27:28] Radar: https://gist.github.com/radar/785ef242a0cc9e4f45fecd25b05f9bb0 haha very funny Ruby
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[22:33:41] apeiros: Radar: huh? which ruby version?
[22:33:45] Radar: apeiros: 2.5.0
[22:34:06] apeiros: that's weird… is const_defined? monkey-patched?
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[22:34:53] apeiros: because with 2.5.1 I get `Object.const_defined? "Array"` # => true
[22:35:20] Radar: apeiros: Not within this particular codebase from what I can tell -- it's dry-core.
[22:35:35] Radar: Some bullshit with autoloading again I guess.
[22:36:15] aarkerio: newbie question: why "statement = true and false" results in "false" ?
[22:36:26] apeiros: Radar: interesting
[22:36:37] Radar: Defining the constant as Test::Project = Class.new(Test::Parent) works, but using the traditional "module Test; class Project < Test::Parent; end; end" does not.
[22:36:48] Radar: aarkerio: because "true and false" is false.
[22:36:49] apeiros: using Kernel#autoload, `const_defined? :Sym` => immediately returns true
[22:36:59] apeiros: but const_defined? "Sym" -> tries to load the file
[22:37:14] apeiros: might be related
[22:38:21] apeiros: aarkerio: uh, `statement = true and false` will evaluate to false, but assign true to the variable "statement"
[22:38:43] apeiros: (because evaluation precedence is `(statement = true) and false`
[22:38:44] aarkerio: ooohh!! I see, thanks guys
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