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[00:00:50] phaul: one is for lexical nesting of modules diregarding any relation of objects the other is all about relating objects disregarding layout of code.
[00:01:54] xco: i’ll need to peruse the documentation
[00:02:07] xco: what would be the “other direction” to #ancestors then?
[00:02:51] phaul: module A ; module B; end ; end. means A and B has no relation to each other whasoever apart from B is lexically layed out in the code of A
[00:04:24] xco: ooooo ok now i get it
[00:04:33] xco: makes sense
[00:04:53] xco: this has nothing to do with inheritance
[00:05:05] xco: as would have been the case with #ancestors
[00:05:17] xco: it’s just like namespacing
[00:05:29] xco: for this one module A ; module B; end ; end.
[00:05:47] xco: like “folders” nested
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[00:12:11] al2o3-cr: &>> module A module B module C Module.nesting end end end # xco your probably looking for this
[00:12:13] rubydoc: # => [A::B::C, A::B, A] (https://carc.in/#/r/6wo2)
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[00:13:10] al2o3-cr: by the definition of your question
[00:13:54] al2o3-cr: but if Module.constants is what you need, np
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[00:16:09] xco: al2o3-cr: no i was looking for #constants :)
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[00:16:28] al2o3-cr: xco: yeah, no worries ;)
[00:16:34] xco: thanks!
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[09:13:49] NL3limin4t0r: Is there an easy way to get the source location of the (first) definition of a class at runtime? For methods there is `method(:some_method).source_location`. I'm looking for the same thing but for the class itself.
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[09:44:54] mhlei: hello everyone, my i ask the ref in `self.formats = request.formats.map(&:ref).compact ` is a user-defined method?
[09:46:09] mhlei: the value of the request.formats is [#<Mime::Type:0x0000000004e3a090 @hash=-4433183059252532333, @string="text/html", @symbol=:html, @synonyms=["application/xhtml+xml"]>]
[09:46:31] al2o3-cr: mhlei: that'll be a yes.
[09:47:41] mhlei: i cann't found it
[09:47:52] al2o3-cr: NL3limin4t0r: you could possibly use TracePoint
[09:50:31] mhlei: is it in the namespace of request.formats.map? or in current namespace?
[09:51:32] al2o3-cr: mhlei: it should be a instance method on Mime::Type
[09:52:43] al2o3-cr: &>> TracePoint.trace(:class) { |tp| p [tp.path, tp.lineno] }; class X end
[09:52:44] rubydoc: # => ["-e", 2] (https://carc.in/#/r/6wtu)
[09:53:09] al2o3-cr: something along those lines could work
[09:53:28] mhlei: maybe, thank U, al2o3-cr
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[09:55:41] mhlei: &>> TracePoint.trace(Mine::Type)
[09:55:41] rubydoc: stderr: -e:2:in `<main>': uninitialized constant Mine (NameError) (https://carc.in/#/r/6wtv)
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[09:58:23] mhlei: one can use the method in Mine::Type without require it ?
[09:59:38] mhlei: a bit diffcult for ruby. [:smile]
[10:00:42] al2o3-cr: mhlei: i don't know what you're asking?
[10:01:11] al2o3-cr: is this rails?
[10:01:44] mhlei: yes, in the actionpack gems
[10:02:05] al2o3-cr: mhlei: https://www.rubydoc.info/docs/rails/4.1.7/Mime/Type#ref-instance_method
[10:03:24] mhlei: i know it now. the ref is the instance method of the `request.formats`, not in current namespace, so I can not found the require statement in current namespaces.
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[10:09:01] al2o3-cr: mhlei: require 'action_dispatch/http/mime_type'
[10:09:21] al2o3-cr: if you've not already required it.
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[12:18:34] NL3limin4t0r: al2o3-cr: Thanks for the suggestion, I'll have a look.
[12:37:42] al2o3-cr: NL3limin4t0r: np
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[13:48:54] syndikate: Is there any equivalent way of doing this in ruby? Elixir snippet: Enum.reduce(a_map, &process(&1, &2)), essentially I want to be able to pass a method into enum_with_index.map(&:process_all) where it would automatically pass the two arguments into process_all
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[13:51:56] ellcs: hey, how do you guys handle
[13:52:11] ellcs: if you have multiple os instances
[13:52:20] ellcs: and a gemfile.lock
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[13:52:43] ellcs: god, that grammar
[13:54:48] syndikate: I believe it is not possible to get that syntax in ruby, but I just wanted to be sure.
[13:55:11] syndikate: ellcs, what do you mean by multiple os instances?
[13:57:14] phaul: " where it would automatically pass the two arguments " - map doesn't want to pass 2 arguments, it wants to pass 1. Do you mean inject/reduce ?
[13:57:14] ellcs: sorry, i want to be able to deploy on debian(old) and debian(new), to keep it simple. i am bound to system-libs and those differ on old and new.
[14:03:06] phaul: &>> foo = -> (a, b) { a + b }; [1,2,3].reduce(&foo)
[14:03:08] rubydoc: # => 6 (https://carc.in/#/r/6wuy)
[14:03:26] phaul: syndikate: ^ if that's what you want
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[14:27:28] NL3limin4t0r: ellcs: I normaly use RVM. When using system-libs I'd check the newest versions avaible on debian(old), lock the gems on that version and on debian(new) install that specific version of the lib.
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[14:30:04] NL3limin4t0r: If I'm not mistaken you can specify a version in apt using `apt install your-lib -v 1.2.3`
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[14:33:32] NL3limin4t0r: syndikate: Alternatively if you want to reduce using an operator with two inputs you can provide a symbol.
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[14:33:56] NL3limin4t0r: &>> (1..6).reduce(:+)
[14:33:58] rubydoc: # => 21 (https://carc.in/#/r/6wvt)
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[14:35:27] NL3limin4t0r: Is the same as `(1..6).reduce { |sum, nr| sum + nr }`
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[15:25:00] havenwood: ellcs: The Gemfile is just a Ruby file, so you can use normal Ruby logic with case or if statements.
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[17:32:34] syndikate: NL3limin4t0r, phaul Thanks! I was using (&:custom_method) which was causing error, instead I had to use (&custom_method)
[17:32:46] syndikate: I used symbol
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[18:47:20] rubydoc: stderr: -e:2:in `<main>': undefined local variable or method `lol' for main:Object (NameError) (https://carc.in/#/r/6wwa)
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[19:17:14] havenwood: IGnorAND: hi
[19:17:24] IGnorAND: havenwood: :) Long time no see
[19:17:35] IGnorAND: I have a question you might be able to answer :)
[19:18:40] IGnorAND: I'm trying to cut a gem and created another class. I however now get a message uninitialized constant Gemname::Gemname::ClassICreated
[19:18:47] IGnorAND: I'd like to read about what this means
[19:18:53] IGnorAND: been searching for ruby and ::
[19:19:18] havenwood: IGnorAND: You'll probably want to read up on how Ruby constant lookup works.
[19:19:38] havenwood: IGnorAND: Two blog posts come to mind, sec.
[19:19:52] IGnorAND: much better keywords than ruby gem cutting class which gives me lectures on how to cut stones
[19:19:56] havenwood: IGnorAND: https://cirw.in/blog/constant-lookup
[19:20:16] havenwood: IGnorAND: https://gist.github.com/kyrylo/6413067
[19:23:16] havenwood: IGnorAND: Or "Ruby Under a Microscope" has a constant lookup chapter.
[19:23:34] havenwood: IGnorAND: http://patshaughnessy.net/ruby-under-a-microscope
[19:23:47] havenwood: Chapter 6: Method Lookup and Constant Lookup
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[22:17:08] asat: IGnorAND: i think that you want to be reading up on is "ruby namespacing"
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[22:32:37] IGnorAND: @asat thanks
[22:32:51] IGnorAND: @havenwood Thanks
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