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[08:27:26] zenspider: damn... this channel is dying... :(
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[08:28:04] jasmin: zenspider, no why are you telling this ?
[08:28:13] zenspider: DYING I TELL YOU
[08:28:41] zenspider: nothing on here since 3pm? ~10 hours? DED
[08:28:59] nomercy: yup, and no useful response
[08:29:07] nomercy: adios, guys :)
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[08:29:42] zenspider: heh. I was just starting to read your description...
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[08:29:49] zenspider: tho, now that I have, I got nothing...FTP?
[08:30:45] jhass: let's just rename it to #ruby-blockchain-ai or so
[08:30:46] jhass: I'm sure that'll help
[08:31:38] zenspider: wasn't there some bot cmd to send an offline user a message?
[08:31:51] zenspider: hah! yeees. make me rich damnit
[08:32:01] zenspider: I'm too old to get a sugarmamma at this stage
[08:32:18] zenspider: I thought nickserv had something
[08:32:23] jhass: !memo zenspider maybe
[08:32:26] jhass: no, that's not it
[08:32:31] ruby[bot]: jhass: You can find a list of my commands on http://ruby-community.com/ruboto/commands and my factoids on http://ruby-community.com/ruboto/facts
[08:32:48] zenspider: I don't think it was ruboto
[08:32:49] jhass: okay we never did it for this one
[08:33:02] jhass: there's... MemoServ?
[08:33:04] zenspider: I thought we had one on freenode tho... doesn't matter
[08:33:47] jhass: yup, /msg MemoServ SEND zenspider heyho
[08:34:54] zenspider: they had a right to be huffy... I can't actually offer help for FTP programming... but still.
[08:35:04] zenspider: FTP??? really?
[08:35:20] zenspider: Prolly 20 years ago maybe?
[08:35:21] jhass: gotta upload your election results somehow
[08:35:41] zenspider: it's all about rsync... easiest way to replicate your election results across all teh servers
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[08:36:29] jhass: https://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/62826/hacking/ccc-hacked-pc-wahl-software.html "Hacked" through not secured/bad passwords FTP servers essentially
[08:37:16] zenspider: ACTION sighs
[08:37:52] jhass: I'm sure a lot of webshop's "deployment pipeline" still is filezilla :D
[08:38:21] jhass: I mean if you click some random shared web hosting, FTP is still the primary access method for sure
[08:40:00] zenspider: ugh. I wish that weren't the case.
[08:40:12] zenspider: rsync.... it's all about rsync
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[08:42:43] jhass: rsync requires ssh access
[08:42:51] jhass: like real ssh access, sftp ain't enough
[08:43:14] jhass: had to use lftp or something the other day because I didn't want to give real ssh access to something
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[08:45:22] zenspider: speak of the devil
[08:46:08] jhass: sftp is a fine protocol, only things it has in common with ftp is the letters in the name and the usecase of copying files from one machine to another
[08:46:31] jhass: well or generally modifying a remote file tree
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[09:14:28] ytti: also openssh people have long tried to deprecate and discourage scp use over sftp
[09:14:42] ytti: i just wish there was scp like ui for sftp
[09:17:11] jhass: shouldn't be hard to build actually, so would surprise me if there isn't somewhere
[09:17:16] jhass: but would be nice if it ships with openssh, yeah
[09:17:36] ytti: entirely no reason at all, could be even symlink and determine how it is called, to offer UI you want
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[09:23:44] jasmin: Hello, I set this STMP conf in my prod env., https://paste.ofcode.org/bUa6kisYUekGj9xpZycfw4, but I got this fatal error "Net::SMTPAuthenticationError (535 5.7.1 Authentication failed)".
[09:23:44] jasmin: However, I know my auth is good, because I test it with telnet : http://i.imgur.com/JUboxIH.png.
[09:23:44] jasmin: What am I doing wrong in my rails conf ?
[09:24:10] jhass: sfcp() { echo "put \"$1\" \"$1\"" | sftp "$2" } gets you half-way there already I guess
[09:25:29] jhass: jasmin: I'd try plain authentication. Given startssl... oh well
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[09:34:39] jhass: jasmin: I'd try plain authentication. Given starttls you really don't need to protect your credentials
[09:35:16] jhass: isn't login using some challenge/response mechanism? It looks like you gave rails one instance of the challenge response rather than your actual credentials
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[11:08:38] jasmin: jhass, it still not working in plain
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[11:10:15] jhass: jasmin: with the same credentials as when using plain inside a starttls session using openssl s_client -starttls smtp -connect foo:587
[11:15:45] jasmin: actually my credential was encoded in base64, so there I put the no encoded info, I let enable_startttls_auto to false, I don't know if it is using actually openssl (I guess yes)
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[11:23:11] jhass: jasmin: you got me a bit confused as to what your state is. To clarify: you should use plain as auth method, do set true for enable_starttls_auto and use your plain credentials as you got or set them at OVH, without any encoding or hashing
[11:29:07] jasmin: jhass, I put the none encoded info, I mean without encoding or hashing. With enable_starttls_auto on true.
[11:29:41] jhass: still the same error message?
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[11:39:28] jhass: jasmin: I guess you could patch your local copy of the mail gem (bundle show mail) to set Net::SMTP's debug output: https://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.6.3/libdoc/net/smtp/rdoc/Net/SMTP.html#method-i-debug_output-3D here https://github.com/mikel/mail/blob/master/lib/mail/network/delivery_methods/smtp.rb#L112
[11:40:08] jhass: that hopefully dumps you the SMTP session somewhere
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[12:32:27] dionysus69: Is there anyone here working for Heroku?
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[17:49:41] galaxie: dionysus69: There's an unofficial channel at #heroku you might want to ask in..
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[18:48:36] a7d7p7: Trying to install RVM (newbie, here; getting started)
[18:49:05] a7d7p7: I run this, as per rvm.io/rvm/install: gpg --keyserver hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 409B6B1796C275462A1703113804BB82D39DC0E3 7D2BAF1CF37B13E2069D6956105BD0E739499BDB
[18:49:22] a7d7p7: and I get this error: -bash: gpg: command not found
[18:49:25] a7d7p7: suggestions?
[18:50:33] adam12: a7d7p7: What OS?
[18:51:02] a7d7p7: Sierra 10.13.6
[18:51:46] adam12: a7d7p7: Do you use Homebrew?
[18:52:26] a7d7p7: Yes, Hobebrew. …but I just found a curl command farther down on the RVM page. I think I’ve got this working now.
[18:52:39] adam12: a7d7p7: If it fails, install gpg2 via homebrew then try again.
[18:52:55] adam12: a7d7p7: but continue with the curl command for now. Good luck.
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[18:54:20] a7d7p7: Interesting… reading the installation log (RVM, in terminal) I see this, about GPG… “Found PGP signature at: 'https://github.com/rvm/rvm/releases/download/1.29.8/1.29.8.tar.gz.asc',
[18:54:21] a7d7p7: but no GPG software exists to validate it, skipping.”
[18:54:31] a7d7p7: it skipped that??? :-p
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[19:00:22] adam12: a7d7p7: It skipped verifying the release... which is interesting but it got you on your way.
[19:00:39] adam12: Or did it skip the download? I don't know because I don't use RVM :P
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[20:04:37] robotcars: possible to get the utc offset of a timezone (America/Denver) ? w/o rails activesupport
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[20:39:14] kiwi_47: Could someone help me understand why this error is taking place? I've described it here with the relevant code: https://pastebin.com/NSYd8aBC
[20:39:15] ruby[bot]: kiwi_47: we in #ruby do not like pastebin.com, it loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting. Please use https://gist.github.com
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