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[06:44:18] ZAJDAN: is any difference between: result = "alfa" result += "and omega" VS result = "alfa" result.concat("and omega") ...?
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[07:02:03] phaul: I bet #concat tries to be more efficient by doing less string allocations. One has to benchmark to know for sure
[07:02:43] phaul: if there is difference it's going to be performance difference though
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[08:09:18] Cork: Net::SSH.start(host, user) appears to try to create a file somewhere on the host
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[08:09:26] Cork: i can't find any reference to this in the code
[08:09:47] Cork: anyone know where this could be? (what path it is trying to do it on)
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[08:51:03] thesubr00t: Hi guys ! What is the best approach to create a "datastore" class that can be accessed from the rest of an app ?
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[10:05:39] phaul: &>> `ruby -h`
[10:05:39] rubydoc: # => "Usage: ruby [switches] [--] [programfile] [arguments]\n -0[octal] specify record separator (\\0,... check link for more (https://carc.in/#/r/76gz)
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[13:53:05] cca4: How can I add a new line in a ruby string. In python if I do this its function print'First line \n Second line'? How to use ruby? Thank you for your help
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[14:16:22] NL3limin4t0r: cca4: You can do the same in Ruby, but you need double quoted strings for that.
[14:17:11] NL3limin4t0r: http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.6.3/doc/syntax/literals_rdoc.html#label-Strings
[14:17:25] NL3limin4t0r: > Double-quote strings allow escaped characters such as \n for newline, \t for tab, etc.
[14:18:08] NL3limin4t0r: > In addition to disabling interpolation, single-quoted strings also disable all escape sequences except for the single-quote (\') and backslash (\\).
[14:18:28] cca4: But it's normal in the irb terminal I always see everything on a line ?
[14:19:34] NL3limin4t0r: That is only the string representation.
[14:19:48] cca4: ok thanks
[14:20:02] NL3limin4t0r: You can see the acual content by printing it with for example `puts`
[14:20:13] NL3limin4t0r: eg. `puts your_string_variable`
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[14:22:16] NL3limin4t0r: &>> puts "line #1\nline #2"
[14:22:18] rubydoc: # => line #1 (https://carc.in/#/r/76j0)
[14:22:35] NL3limin4t0r: ^ check the link for the multiline output
[14:23:11] cca4: However, how do I do with the rails translation tool "#{I18n.t('testtranslations')} \n #{mymessage}" ?
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[14:40:23] davor: hello. I have a problem installing kgio using "gem install" on a raspberry pi 3, extconf.rb seems to be failing while "checking for CLOCK_MONOTONIC in time.h". the file is here https://github.com/betterplace/kgio/blob/master/ext/kgio/extconf.rb
[14:41:24] NL3limin4t0r: cca4: That should work alternatively you could also use `I18n.t('testtranslations') + "\n" + mymessage`
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[14:42:18] havenwood: davor: You can add a real time clock to a Raspberry Pi, but they don't ship with one.
[14:42:36] havenwood: davor: (Pi's only know the time from the internet.)
[14:43:18] davor: havenwood, I would have expected the test to just fail with a "no" and run to the end instead of immediately stopping there, no?
[14:43:53] havenwood: davor: kgio seems to presume you have a RTC.
[14:44:38] davor: okay, thank you
[14:45:03] havenwood: davor: It's pretty easy to add an RTC module at least. That should provide monotonic time.
[14:45:29] havenwood: davor: I found adding one wasn't much of a pain and it worked.
[14:45:29] davor: I think I actually have a spare one here somewhere
[14:46:03] havenwood: davor: I'm curious what you're using kgio for? A dep of a gem or using it yourself?
[14:46:18] davor: a dep, I'm trying to build openproject for the pi
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[14:46:58] havenwood: davor: nio4r shows how to detect if a monotonic clock is available instead in the C-ext.
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[14:49:09] havenwood: https://github.com/socketry/nio4r/blob/master/ext/libev/ev.c
[14:52:18] havenwood: Heh, Jesus implemented ++ and -- for Ruby: https://github.com/ruby/ruby/compare/trunk...Jesus:6ae534830d403d7423cea4565fa60fee043eac30
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[14:57:50] NL3limin4t0r: But did he implement `variable++` (same as `old = variable; variable += 1; old`) or `++variable` (same as `variable += 1`) or both?
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[14:59:28] NL3limin4t0r: `variable++` should return the old value, whereas `++variable` should return the new value
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[15:10:23] havenwood: NL3limin4t0r: x = 42; x++ #=> 42
[15:10:31] havenwood: NL3limin4t0r: x #=> 43
[15:10:50] havenwood: NL3limin4t0r: x = 42; x++ #=> 43
[15:10:55] havenwood: I mean that ^
[15:12:18] havenwood: NL3limin4t0r: They didn't implement ++variable, and their variable++ returns the new value.
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[15:35:52] davor: havenwood, installing the gem still fails after adding the hw rtc, but only because I'm trying to build the gem as a regular user, and /dev/rtc0 has 700 permissions, and root is the owner
[15:36:24] havenwood: davor: ahhh, that's a pain. hrmm.
[15:36:37] davor: I suppose I should create an rtc user group, a udev rule and try again?
[15:36:59] havenwood: davor: Good luck!
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[15:46:40] davor: havenwood, well, permissions fixed and "$ hwclock" produces output, and I'm still getting "checking for CLOCK_MONOTONIC in time.h... *** extconf.rb failed ***". while I know it's bad practice, running "gem install kgio" as root works...
[15:47:43] davor: hm, perhaps setting rtc permissions as 666 instead of 660 would do the trick...
[15:48:28] davor: nope, still fails.
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[15:53:02] davor: wow. it still fails while running "gem install kgio", but running "docker build" on openproject manages to build kgio as a gem dep
[15:53:14] davor: so it works :p
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[16:10:18] havenwood: davor: nice
[16:10:42] davor: thanks for the help havenwood !
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[16:11:18] havenwood: davor: any time - you're welcome!
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[16:22:39] NL3limin4t0r: havenwood: Hmm, I do wonder if it's a good idea to have the return value be someting that is not standard. C, C++, JavaScript and probably a bunch more programming languages have this "operator" a long time and it's always been `++x` to return the new value and `x++` to return the old value.
[16:23:47] NL3limin4t0r: But we'll see. Only time will tell.
[16:30:27] NL3limin4t0r: Seems like Perl also follows this standard: https://perldoc.perl.org/perlop.html#Auto-increment-and-Auto-decrement
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[16:36:44] NL3limin4t0r: Same for Java and php.
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[19:00:56] havenwood: quick spike for creating pngs from ascii art: https://gist.github.com/havenwood/4d779ca0c920ed06d9021a64390222ac
[19:01:45] havenwood: different colors for different chars and scaling might be nice ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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[20:01:26] leitz: Gem name question. If I'm building a core set of classes and modules then use something like "ftl_core" for that gem, and then "ftl_chargen" for a program that uses it.
[20:02:44] leitz: So ftl_core would have a class FTLCore::Person.
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[20:37:17] leitz: Drat! Storms in the area, shutting down.
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[21:53:31] arooni: is there an easier way that rvm install ruby-1.9.3-p551 --with-gcc=gcc ;; on mac ? i know its an ancient version of ruby but rvm doesnt seem to be able to build it at all
[21:54:39] rubyrubyruby: I'm trying to merge two hashes, such that the values of the first hash are only overwritten by values of the second hash if they are not nil. This logic seems like it should work, but it doesn't: hash.deep_merge(other_hash) { |key, this_val, other_val| other_val if this_val.present? }
[21:55:35] leftylink: because there's never a case where the block results in `this_val`
[21:56:03] leftylink: oh wait, that's not necessary since it's only when there are same keys
[21:56:05] leftylink: I retract my answer
[21:57:03] leftylink: that's what I get for trying to make snap judgments on others' code. I shouldn't do that.
[21:57:35] rubyrubyruby: According to https://apidock.com/rails/Hash/deep_merge deep_merge should accept a block.
[21:58:23] rubyrubyruby: But passing in a block seems to have no effect: hash.deep_merge(other_hash) { |key, this_val, other_val| "no effect" }
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[21:58:39] leftylink: &>> {a: 1}.merge(a: 2
[21:58:40] rubydoc: stderr: -e:3: syntax error, unexpected end, expecting ')' (https://carc.in/#/r/76mf)
[21:58:53] leftylink: &>> {a: 1}.merge(a: 2) { |_, _, _| "yes effect" }
[21:58:53] rubydoc: # => {:a=>"yes effect"} (https://carc.in/#/r/76mg)
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[22:00:12] rubyrubyruby: {a: 1}.deep_merge(b: 2) { |_, _, _| "yes effect" } => {:a=>1, :b=>2}
[22:00:25] leftylink: of course not. the two hashes have no keys in common.
[22:00:33] leftylink: therefore the block is not used
[22:01:22] rubyrubyruby: I want to not merge values that are not in common.
[22:01:36] rubyrubyruby: Or rather, I only want to merge values that are common.
[22:02:07] rubyrubyruby: I was hoping for something causing this behaviour: {a: 1}.deep_merge(b: 2) { |_, _, _| "something" } => {a: 1}
[22:03:40] leftylink: so if the only keys that should exist in the result are the keys in the first hash, wouldn't that be a time to use Hash#transform_values ?
[22:04:02] leftylink: or if the key is necessary to compute the value, perhaps Enumerable#to_h is appropriate.
[22:04:34] leftylink: oh, yeah, the key is necessary to compute the value I guess, since you may need to look it up from the second hash
[22:04:40] leftylink: so that'd be Enumerable#to_h then, for Ruby 2.6.
[22:05:19] rubyrubyruby: I think transform_values may be what I'm looking for.
[22:05:21] leftylink: er, Enumerable#to_h existed for a while, but takes a block in 2.6. before 2.6 it'd be #map then #to_h
[22:06:14] rubyrubyruby: However, I need something like deep_transform_values.
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[22:14:13] rubyrubyruby: leftylink: How can Enumerable#to_h be used in the case you describe?
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